useR! 2008
by José Abílio Matos
Hi,
I am writing this from Dortmund, at the useR! 2008 conference
http://www.statistik.uni-dortmund.de/useR-2008/
I will have a talk tomorrow about the interaction between R and Fedora. It is
a 15 minutes session so there is not much time to expand. I will present
Fedora and it interacts with R. There are several issues that are common to
the relation between Fedora and languages like perl, python, latex or R.
I will also take the opportunity to hear feedback from several types of users
regarding the state of R in Fedora. If there is anything relevant I will
report back to this list.
I have asked pingou (I hope I can use this) to write to the list with the new
releases of his package as it would be nice that package automatically in
Fedora using yum.
Regards,
PS: In case you are wondering why I took so long to send this message to the
list, believe that it is a long story that involves time shortage. :-)
--
José Abílio
14 years, 11 months
Re: R-devel going away
by José Abílio Matos
On Thursday 23 October 2008 19:22:07 James Antill wrote:
> Well it kinda fits the "people expect foo-core + additions" _assuming_
> CRAN is a requirement, but really why don't we just package more of the
> R modules so CRAN usage isn't a requirement?
There are more than 1500 modules (the have been growing at an exponential rate
in the last years). So while we would like to see more R packages in Fedora in
are not even near to have a reasonable subset of R packaged.
So for the moment CRAN is really a requirement to use R in Fedora.
> --
> James Antill <james(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Fedora
--
José Abílio
15 years, 1 month
Re: Heads-up - Bioconductor - Requires R >= 2.x.y
by Pierre-Yves Chibon
Dear all,
I am currently updating the libraries from bioconductor to the version
2.3 of bioconductor made for R 2.8.0.
I am adding to all these package a global variable Rversion which is
then used in the Requires and BuilRequires sections.
This means that those packages will not be available for previous
version of R.
I am planning to generalize this and to add this in R2spec.
Regards,
Pierre
15 years, 1 month
Re: R-devel going away
by Tom Callaway
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 16:34 +0200, Enrico Scholz wrote:
> Better solutions:
>
> * add it to comps.xml
> * move 'R' to R-core, and add 'R' which depends on 'R-core' +
> 'R-devel'
>
>
> > * The size of the R-devel is tiny, about 440K installed.
>
> You miss its dependencies:
>
> bzip2-devel
> gcc-c++
> gcc-gfortran
> libICE-devel
> libSM-devel
> libX11-devel
> libXmu-devel
> libXt-devel
> libjpeg-devel
> libpng-devel
> ncurses-devel
> pkgconfig
> readline-devel
> tcl-devel
> tetex-latex
> texinfo
> tk-devel
These are very good points, thanks Enrico. What would people think about
doing the suggested R/R-core/R-devel split instead? Users would still be
able to get everything with yum install R, it would meet the guidelines,
and minimal installs with R can simply have R-core.
~spot
15 years, 1 month
R-devel going away
by Tom Callaway
This email serves as an announcement that I plan to swallow up R-devel
into the base R package. Why?
* It is causing no end of user complaints. The typical R user expects to
be able to do a "CPAN" (really, I should say "CRAN") style package
install through the R interface:
install.packages("RSQLite")
This doesn't work unless you have R-devel installed. The average R user
is a professor or a student, and neither of them are going to
necessarily possess the necessary Linux/Fedora knowledge to be able to
understand why this doesn't work like the R documentation says it
should.
* The size of the R-devel is tiny, about 440K installed. It will not
bloat the main package to absorb the .h files and a .pc file into the
main package. There are no libraries in the R-devel package.
* The primary users of R-devel are R addon packages. They can continue
to BuildRequires: R-devel safely (hooray for Provides/Requires).
* libRmath (the R shared library) will still be a separate package.
libRmath-devel will still be a separate package. As far as I know,
nothing in Fedora uses libRmath, nor is libRmath-devel necessary for
building R addons.
Now, I recognize that this is a violation of the Fedora Packaging
Guidelines, and I've given a lot of thought to this over the last few
days, and technically, this is a reversal of my earlier stance (which is
to stick to the guidelines). However, I think this is a key
functionality that Fedora R users expect to just work, and I want to try
to make sure that they get the best R experience out of the box that
they can.
As Martyn Plummer pointed out:
There are currently 1533 packages/bundles on CRAN, not counting the
recommended packages that are already distributed with R. Of these
packages, 420 require to the R headers. Fedora only supplies RPMs for
9
of them.
I'm not entirely sure if I need FESCo or FPC approval to take this
action, if so, this is my notice of requesting it. ;)
I'm also looking for feedback and comments, of course.
Thanks,
~spot (Fedora R maintainer)
15 years, 1 month
R2spec version 2.5.1
by Pierre-Yves Chibon
Dear list,
As previously I am announcing here the new release of R2spec, the
version 2.5.1.
Here is the changelog for this version:
# Version 2.5.1 -- 07th Oct 2008
# -Features added
# * Add the summary from Title in the DESCRIPTION file
# * Add the possibility to have a ~/.R2spec.conf which overrides the
/etc/R2spec.conf
# -Bugs correction
# * Correct a typo SOURCES != SOURCE
# * Copy from ./ to ~/rpmbuild and not ../ Bug #1
# * Change "summary should be not be longer than that" to "summary
should be not be longer than this"
# * Create the function finishName in the spec class to avoid
redundancy in the code
# * Move the check of the specfile to Package.py to avoid redundancy
in the code
# * Change some layout in the output
Feed back, bugs and suggestions welcome here or in :
https://fedorahosted.org/r2spec
Thanks,
Have a nice day,
Pierre
15 years, 1 month
