rel-eng February 2020

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Revamping the Release Readiness meeting
by Ben Cotton 05 Mar '20

05 Mar '20

(Posting to many mailing lists for visibility. I apologize if you see this more times than you'd like.) You may have already seen my Community Blog post[1] about changing the Release Readiness meeting process. The meeting has questionable value in the current state, so I want to make it more useful. We'll do this by having teams self-report readiness issues on a dedicated wiki page[2] beginning now. This gives the community time to chip in and help with areas that need help without waiting until days before the release. I invite teams to identify a representative to keep the wiki page up to date. Update it as your status changes and I'll post help requests in my weekly CommBlog posts[3] and the FPgM office hours[4] IRC meeting. The Release Readiness meeting will be shortened to one hour and will review open concerns instead of polling for teams that may or may not be there. We will use the logistics mailing list[5] to discuss issues and make announcements, so I encourage representatives to join this list. [1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-program-update-2020-08/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness [3] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/category/program-management/ [4] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/council/#m9570 -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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New RelEng meeting time - Every Tuesday at 16:00 UTC
by Mohan Boddu 03 Mar '20

03 Mar '20

Hello all, Based on https://framadate.org/fedorareleng we decided to move the releng meeting to every Tuesday starting at 16:00 UTC and it will be an hour long meeting which will end at 17:00 UTC. Please update your calendars and hope to see you all at our next meeting on March 03 2020 at 16:00 UTC. Thanks, Mohan Boddu.

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Re: a special Fedora spin
by Ben Cotton 03 Mar '20

03 Mar '20

Hi Vojtech, I don't have an answer for your questions, so I have copied the Release Engineering team who can give you the answers you need. I love this spin idea, and am happy to help in whatever way I can. Thanks, BC On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:59 AM Vojtech Polasek <vpolasek(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > Hello Ben, > > my name is Vojta and I am a blind software engineer working for RH in > Brno, Czech Republic. I am working in platform security, but this is not > that important for this mail. > > Me and several other friends from RH are working on a special Linux > distribution for blind and visually impaired users. This distribution is > currently based on Fedora. We would like to make a spin from it. But I > have a special question, see below. > > I know that if I apply for a spin, the lab infrastructure can create ISO > live images from kickstarts. That is nice. But... > > While demonstrating our distro to potential users, we chose a bit > different way than others. Instead of live images shipped on USB drives, > we chose to create a full installation of the system and place it on the > USB drive. This has several benefits compared to live images: > > - changes made by users are persistent and not limited to 4 Gb > > - it is possible to partition the USB drive and create an additional > partition formatted as Exfat for transfering data between Linux and > non-Linux world > > - users can come to whatever computer and boot the system with their > personal configuration, data, software... > > - users can have almost the same experience as if the system was > installed on their primary hard drive > > It can have its drawbacks but we used this approach already two times > while presenting our "spin" on special workshops and we think it worked > very well. > > I am not against live images and if we create a Fedora spin, we will > definitely offer them as well. But I believe the described alternative > approach has its benefits- > > The whole process is described here: > > https://github.com/vojtapolasek/Fegora > > Currently we use a VM to perform an automated kickstart installation and > then we transfer the raw image on an USB drive. > > My question now is: could the infrastructure used for production of > Fedora spins be used to create not only live images but also our custom > raw disk images? If not, could we at least use those resources to store > such images? > > Feel free to ask if you need further clarifications etc. > > Best regards, > > Vojta > > -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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NEED some HELP on getting dependency info among fedora rpms
by Fu Wei 27 Feb '20

27 Feb '20

Dear Fedora release engineers, I am trying to working on a bootstrap on a new arch for Fedora, but I would like to know the big picture of dependency info among a lot of fedora rpms. I know how to get this info of one rpm. But for 10s, 100s, or even 1000s rpms, Do we have existing scripts to help engineers to figure out the dependency info among a lot of them? Maybe there are some existing scripts we can use, or please provide some advice or suggestion?? Great thanks! -- Best regards, Fu Wei Senior Software Engineer Red Hat Software (Beijing) Co.,Ltd. Ph: +86 18102768846 (mobile) IRC: fuwei email: wefu(a)redhat.com Level 9, North Tower C,Raycom Infotech Park, No.2 Ke Xue Yuan Nanlu, Zhongguancun, Haidian District, Beijing,China

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Release Engineering
by mohanboddu＠fedoraproject.org 25 Feb '20

25 Feb '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Release Engineering on 2020-02-26 from 16:00:00 to 17:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Fedora Release Engineering weekly meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9274/

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Re: URGENT: users prompted to upgrade to F32
by Adam Williamson 22 Feb '20

22 Feb '20

On Sat, 2020-02-22 at 12:42 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 09:33:42PM -0700, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:52 AM Adam Williamson > > <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > > Since this is an API endpoint of a real system which needs to be > > > updated correctly when the release events actually happen, it > > > should > > > have the benefits pkgdb used to be (the information should be > > > reliable > > > and timely) > > > > Do we have stats on how many hits per second that current endpoint > > receives? > > It looks like it gets less than 100k/day. So, one or less per second. Are they evenly-spaced, though? I don't recall exactly how fancy the GNOME Software code is, but it seems at least possible that these check-ins aren't evenly spaced out but come in clumps... BTW, I've ported fedfind from collections to Bodhi in 4.4.0, 4.4.1 is in updates-testing now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Change in RelEng meeting time
by Mohan Boddu 21 Feb '20

21 Feb '20

Hello all, We are planning on changing the RelEng meeting time as its not feasible to some of the people anymore. Here's the framadata link [1] with available days and times. Please fill it in and we will find the best time that works for all of us. Please let me know if you want to add any other time and I will look into it. [1] https://framadate.org/fedorareleng Thanks, Mohan Boddu.

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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Summary for 2020-02-19
by Mohan Boddu 19 Feb '20

19 Feb '20

====================================== #fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2020-02-19) ====================================== Meeting started by mboddu at 16:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-02-19/releng.2020-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mboddu, 16:00:19) * #9266 prune EOL content from OSTree repos (mboddu, 16:03:17) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9266 (mboddu, 16:03:23) * We will work on migration first and then pruning, nirik will start working on migration tomorrow and then dustymabe will work on pruning later (mboddu, 16:24:40) * #7400 Rethink how we handle networking config with createImage (oz / ImageFactory) (mboddu, 16:28:05) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7400 (mboddu, 16:28:12) * mboddu will create a upstream koji ticket and will check with mikem (mboddu, 16:31:50) * #7555 scratch permission to build livecd for users (mboddu, 16:34:27) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7555 (mboddu, 16:34:34) * Open Floor (mboddu, 16:55:24) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-project-schedule/issue/175 (bcotton, 17:03:24) Meeting ended at 17:04:39 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mboddu (70) * nirik (55) * dustymabe (37) * zodbot (14) * bcotton (12) * kalev (7) * Southern_Gentlem (4) * jednorozec (0) * pbrobinson (0) * pingou (0) * ksinny (0) * sharkcz (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Release Engineering
by mohanboddu＠fedoraproject.org 18 Feb '20

18 Feb '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Release Engineering on 2020-02-19 from 16:00:00 to 17:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Fedora Release Engineering weekly meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9274/

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Re: URGENT: users prompted to upgrade to F32
by Adam Williamson 17 Feb '20

17 Feb '20

On Mon, 2020-02-17 at 09:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > However! It seems that there *may* be an alternative candidate for the > role. Bodhi has a 'releases' API endpoint, here: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/releases/ I updated a gnome-software issue: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/214 and filed a fedfind issue: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/fedfind/issue/17 if anyone's aware of any other systems using the collections data, please flag them up so we can consider those too. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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