#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21

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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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 Reporter:  jreznik          |       Owner:  rel-eng@…
     Type:  enhancement      |      Status:  new
Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |   Component:  other
 Keywords:                   |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:                   |
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 Fedora Working Groups are discussing different options how to deliver
 specific Fedora Products. These deliverables has to be collected (and
 agreed on) to plan changes in Fedora release engineering process.

 This ticket should serve to collect requirements from WGs in a centralized
 way (as there's possible overlap etc). For specific implementation
 details, new tickets will be created.

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  new
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:                   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Comment (by mattdm):

 Fedora Cloud expects to deliver several variants (perhaps "spins") as
 images -- like the current qcow2/raw.xz and EC2 images, although now there
 will be a couple of them. That increase means we are hoping for more
 automated testing as well (and more automated workflow).

 We also want to make an official Docker (container) image, which we will
 push to the docker index.
 We've filed change proposals for these:

 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Docker_Cloud_Image
 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Big_Data_Cloud_Image
 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Docker_Container_Image

 As well as related changes:

 *
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Move_to_ImageFactory_For_Cloud_Ima...
 *
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/(A)Periodic_Updates_to_Cloud_Images

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891#comment:1>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  new
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:                   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Comment (by mattdm):

 Currently, under `releases/##/`, we have

 * Everything/
 * Fedora/
 * Images/
 * Live/

 What do you think about making this into:

 * Everything
 * Cloud
 * Server
 * Workstation
 * Other

 With "Other" holding other spins, the arm images, etc.?

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891#comment:2>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  new
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:                   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Comment (by ausil):

 arm images should not be under other

 I am working to be able to do a full compose to show everyone what things
 will look like.

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891#comment:3>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  new
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:                   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Comment (by mattdm):

 Replying to [comment:3 ausil]:
>  arm images should not be under other 
 Where should they go? A separate directory? "Other" isn't really very
 descriptive -- maybe that should be "ARM-Images" and "Spins"?

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891#comment:4>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  new
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:                   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Comment (by ausil):

 Replying to [comment:4 mattdm]:
>  Replying to [comment:3 ausil]:
>  > arm images should not be under other
>
>  Where should they go? A separate directory? "Other" isn't really very
 descriptive -- maybe that should be "ARM-Images" and "Spins"?

 lets just wait and see what comes up when we have a full compose to look
 at. but the arm Workstation image should go with the Workstation product
 tree

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891#comment:5>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  new
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:                   |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Comment (by adamwill):

 we really need to have this written down somewhere. eons ago I started a
 deliverables SOP for Fedora.last:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_releng_SOP_deliverables

 but never got it finished, and it's currently a pain to read (I was
 prioritizing accuracy over ease of use in the first drafts, and never got
 around to the rewrite).

 The Product WGs currently list their deliverables in (variously) their
 tech specs and/or PRDs, but these have proven to be inaccurate or outdated
 on more than one occasion already and we haven't released Alpha yet.

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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5891#comment:6>
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#5891: Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next/Fedora 21
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  Reporter:  jreznik          |      Owner:  rel-eng@…
      Type:  enhancement      |     Status:  closed
 Milestone:  Fedora 21 Alpha  |  Component:  other
Resolution:  fixed            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:                   |   Blocking:
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Changes (by kevin):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  new => closed


Comment:

 So, we delivered a f21 with various changes. ;)

 Not sure there's anything left to do here... reopen if there is.

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