Co-ordinating open source robotics packaging.

[Toby Collett]

Hi all,
There seems to be increased effort and interest in packaging robotics
software in various distributions. It seems to be that the requirements for
most distributions are pretty similar and so it would make sense to put a
bit of effort into coordinating these efforts, potentially targeting the
same set of packages and same versions for fedora, ubuntu (coordinate with
robobuntu?), debian ....

Does this seem a good idea for others, I am currently looking to get
involved in some ubuntu packaging (particularly around player which I am a
developer for and the libraries it uses such as gearbox), but would prefer
to not reinvent the wheel too much :)

If this seems a good idea, what do you think would be the best way to
coordinate, a common mailing list, a wiki with a matrix of packages,
distributions and the versions targetted?....

Regards,
Toby Collett
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[Attilio Priolo]

In my honest opinion I think that a common mailing list is a good mean but a
wiki could be the best way to address our efforts. I vote for a wiki. ;-)

2009/6/7 Toby Collett
<[e-mail]&lt;tcollett%2Blists(a)plan9.net.nz
>  
>  
> Hi all,
> There seems to be increased effort and interest in packaging robotics
> software in various distributions. It seems to be that the requirements for
> most distributions are pretty similar and so it would make sense to put a
> bit of effort into coordinating these efforts, potentially targeting the
> same set of packages and same versions for fedora, ubuntu (coordinate with
> robobuntu?), debian ....
>  
> Does this seem a good idea for others, I am currently
looking to get
> involved in some ubuntu packaging (particularly around player which I am a
> developer for and the libraries it uses such as gearbox), but would prefer
> to not reinvent the wheel too much :)
>  
> If this seems a good idea, what do you think would be the
best way to
> coordinate, a common mailing list, a wiki with a matrix of packages,
> distributions and the versions targetted?....
>  
> Regards,
> Toby Collett
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> This email is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged
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> _______________________________________________
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>

[Toby Collett]

I have had a bit of a look at creating the outline for the matrix. It is
pretty empty at the moment, but hopefully that will change over time.

http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio

Have a look and let me know what you think.

Toby

2009/6/7 Attilio Priolo <attilio.priolo(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  In my honest opinion I think that a common mailing list is a good
> mean but
>  a wiki could be the best way to address our efforts. I vote for a wiki. ;-)
>
>  2009/6/7 Toby Collett
> <[e-mail]&lt;tcollett%2Blists(a)plan9.net.nz&gt;
>  >
>
> > Hi all,
> > There seems to be increased effort and interest in packaging robotics
> > software in various distributions. It seems to be that the requirements for
> > most distributions are pretty similar and so it would make sense to put a
> > bit of effort into coordinating these efforts, potentially targeting the
> > same set of packages and same versions for fedora, ubuntu (coordinate with
> > robobuntu?), debian ....
> >
> > Does this seem a good idea for others, I am currently looking to get
> > involved in some ubuntu packaging (particularly around player which I am a
> > developer for and the libraries it uses such as gearbox), but would prefer
> > to not reinvent the wheel too much :)
> >
> > If this seems a good idea, what do you think would be the best way to
> > coordinate, a common mailing list, a wiki with a matrix of packages,
> > distributions and the versions targetted?....
> >
> > Regards,
> > Toby Collett
> >  --
> > This email is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged
> > and/or confidential information
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
> > Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
> >
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
>  Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
>  


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[Hedayat Vatankhah]

Hi,
A good suggestion. For discussion, I agree with mailing list too. And 
also, with wiki for others!
And about the matrix, that's OK. But a little note about RoboCup Soccer 
Server: it is not one package. At least, it can be classified as two 
packages RoboCup 2D soccer simulation server and RoboCup 3D soccer 
simulation server (simspark). The development of the latter is now 
mostly done here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/simspark/.

Thanks,
Hedayat

/*Toby Collett <tcollett+lists(a)plan9.net.nz&gt;*/ wrote on ‫سه‌شنبه ۰۹ ژوئن 
۰۹، ۱۰:۴۰:۱۳‬:
>  I have had a bit of a look at creating the outline for the matrix. It
>
>  is pretty empty at the moment, but hopefully that will change over time.
>
>  http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio
>
>  Have a look and let me know what you think.
>
>  Toby
>
>  2009/6/7 Attilio Priolo <attilio.priolo(a)gmail.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>
>      In my honest opinion I think that a common mailing list is a good
>      mean but a wiki could be the best way to address our efforts. I
>      vote for a wiki. ;-)
>
>      2009/6/7 Toby Collett <tcollett+lists(a)plan9.net.nz
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>
>          Hi all,
>          There seems to be increased effort and interest in packaging
>          robotics software in various distributions. It seems to be
>          that the requirements for most distributions are pretty
>          similar and so it would make sense to put a bit of effort into
>          coordinating these efforts, potentially targeting the same set
>          of packages and same versions for fedora, ubuntu (coordinate
>          with robobuntu?), debian ....
>
>          Does this seem a good idea for others, I am currently looking
>          to get involved in some ubuntu packaging (particularly around
>          player which I am a developer for and the libraries it uses
>          such as gearbox), but would prefer to not reinvent the wheel
>          too much :)
>
>          If this seems a good idea, what do you think would be the best
>          way to coordinate, a common mailing list, a wiki with a matrix
>          of packages, distributions and the versions targetted?....
>
>          Regards,
>          Toby Collett
>          -- 
>          This email is intended for the addressee only and may contain
>          privileged and/or confidential information
>
>          _______________________________________________
>          Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
>          Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>
>          https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
>
>
>
>      _______________________________________________
>      Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
>      Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>
>      https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
>
>
>
>
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[Toby Collett]

Given that this list is relatively low volume and the material should be
mostly relevant do you think it is a good idea to just point people to this
list for discussions on robotics packaging in general?, or should I create a
new list (can probably host via sourceforge and the Player Project)

Toby

2009/6/9 Hedayat Vatankhah <hedayatv(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  Hi,
>  A good suggestion. For discussion, I agree with mailing list too. And also,
>  with wiki for others!
>  And about the matrix, that's OK. But a little note about RoboCup Soccer
>  Server: it is not one package. At least, it can be classified as two
>  packages RoboCup 2D soccer simulation server and RoboCup 3D soccer
>  simulation server (simspark). The development of the latter is now mostly
>  done here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/simspark/.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Hedayat
>
>  /*Toby Collett
> <[e-mail]&lt;tcollett%2Blists(a)plan9.net.nz&gt;&gt;*/
>  wrote on ‫سه‌شنبه ۰۹ ژوئن ۰۹، ۱۰:۴۰:۱۳‬:
>
> > I have had a bit of a look at creating the outline for the matrix. It is
> > pretty empty at the moment, but hopefully that will change over time.
> >
> > http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio
> >
> > Have a look and let me know what you think.
> >
> > Toby
> >
> > 2009/6/7 Attilio Priolo <attilio.priolo(a)gmail.com <mailto:
> > attilio.priolo(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;
> >
> >    In my honest opinion I think that a common mailing list is a good
> >    mean but a wiki could be the best way to address our efforts. I
> >    vote for a wiki. ;-)
> >
> >    2009/6/7 Toby Collett
> <[e-mail]&lt;tcollett%2Blists(a)plan9.net.nz&gt;
> >    <mailto:[e-mail]<[e-mail]>
> > >>
> >
> >        Hi all,
> >        There seems to be increased effort and interest in packaging
> >        robotics software in various distributions. It seems to be
> >        that the requirements for most distributions are pretty
> >        similar and so it would make sense to put a bit of effort into
> >        coordinating these efforts, potentially targeting the same set
> >        of packages and same versions for fedora, ubuntu (coordinate
> >        with robobuntu?), debian ....
> >
> >        Does this seem a good idea for others, I am currently looking
> >        to get involved in some ubuntu packaging (particularly around
> >        player which I am a developer for and the libraries it uses
> >        such as gearbox), but would prefer to not reinvent the wheel
> >        too much :)
> >
> >        If this seems a good idea, what do you think would be the best
> >        way to coordinate, a common mailing list, a wiki with a matrix
> >        of packages, distributions and the versions targetted?....
> >
> >        Regards,
> >        Toby Collett
> >        --        This email is intended for the addressee only and may
> > contain
> >        privileged and/or confidential information
> >
> >        _______________________________________________
> >        Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
> >        Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
> >        <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >        https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
> >
> >
> >
> >    _______________________________________________
> >    Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
> >    Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
> >    <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >    https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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[Hedayat Vatankhah]

Hi,
Personally I think that's OK (if others who are not working on Fedora do 
not have any problems with it!).

Good luck,
Hedayat

On ۰۹/۰۶/۱۰  10:31, Toby Collett wrote:
>  Given that this list is relatively low volume and the material should
>
>  be mostly relevant do you think it is a good idea to just point people 
>  to this list for discussions on robotics packaging in general?, or 
>  should I create a new list (can probably host via sourceforge and the 
>  Player Project)
>
>  Toby
>
>  2009/6/9 Hedayat Vatankhah <hedayatv(a)gmail.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>
>      Hi,
>      A good suggestion. For discussion, I agree with mailing list too.
>      And also, with wiki for others!
>      And about the matrix, that's OK. But a little note about RoboCup
>      Soccer Server: it is not one package. At least, it can be
>      classified as two packages RoboCup 2D soccer simulation server and
>      RoboCup 3D soccer simulation server (simspark). The development of
>      the latter is now mostly done here:
>      https://sourceforge.net/projects/simspark/.
>
>      Thanks,
>      Hedayat
>
>      /*Toby Collett <tcollett+lists(a)plan9.net.nz
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>>*/ wrote on ‫سه‌شنبه ۰۹
>      ژوئن ۰۹، ۱۰:۴۰:۱۳‬:
>
>          I have had a bit of a look at creating the outline for the
>          matrix. It is pretty empty at the moment, but hopefully that
>          will change over time.
>
>          http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio
>
>          Have a look and let me know what you think.
>
>          Toby
>
>          2009/6/7 Attilio Priolo <attilio.priolo(a)gmail.com
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>
>          <mailto:[e-mail]
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>>>
>
>
>             In my honest opinion I think that a common mailing list is
>          a good
>             mean but a wiki could be the best way to address our efforts. I
>             vote for a wiki. ;-)
>
>             2009/6/7 Toby Collett <tcollett+lists(a)plan9.net.nz
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>
>          <mailto:[e-mail]
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>>>
>
>
>                 Hi all,
>                 There seems to be increased effort and interest in
>          packaging
>                 robotics software in various distributions. It seems to be
>                 that the requirements for most distributions are pretty
>                 similar and so it would make sense to put a bit of
>          effort into
>                 coordinating these efforts, potentially targeting the
>          same set
>                 of packages and same versions for fedora, ubuntu
>          (coordinate
>                 with robobuntu?), debian ....
>
>                 Does this seem a good idea for others, I am currently
>          looking
>                 to get involved in some ubuntu packaging (particularly
>          around
>                 player which I am a developer for and the libraries it uses
>                 such as gearbox), but would prefer to not reinvent the
>          wheel
>                 too much :)
>
>                 If this seems a good idea, what do you think would be
>          the best
>                 way to coordinate, a common mailing list, a wiki with a
>          matrix
>                 of packages, distributions and the versions targetted?....
>
>                 Regards,
>                 Toby Collett
>                 --        This email is intended for the addressee only
>          and may contain
>                 privileged and/or confidential information
>
>                 _______________________________________________
>                 Fedora-robotics-list mailing list
>          Fedora-robotics-list(a)redhat.com
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>
>          <mailto:[e-mail]
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>
>          https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
>
>
>
>             _______________________________________________
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>          <mailto:[e-mail]
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>
>          https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-robotics-list
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>
>
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>
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