Fedora 11 FTP

[Bernie VK2KAD]

In response to Harold's question - there is a SFTP service running on the
Fedora11 image.  At least in the Hercules image that is.

Using it I was able to FTP the Midnight Commander RPM to Fedora after
downloading it on my Windows host.  I used psftp as the Windows Client (From
the makers of Putty).  Unfortunately the RPM wasn't installable as there
were many unmet dependencies.   I am now in the process of setting up
Hercules on Ubuntu - hopefully my Windows networking woes will go away and I
will be able to 'yum install' everything I need, then I can just ship the
image back to windows !!   (Well that's my plan for now)

Bern




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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
      (Phil Knirsch)
   2. Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
      (Harold Grovesteen)
   3. libatomic_ops (Dan Hor?k)
   4. Re: libatomic_ops (Ivan Warren)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:09:19 +0200
From: Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
To: fedora-s390x(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 07/21/2009 12:09 PM, Harold Grovesteen wrote:
>  Thought I would forward this request to this list.  I am with this
>  poster.  It would be great to have something better than vi.  I just
>  completed installing the latest released disk and am about to add a new
>  disk for /home.
>
>  Is there an FTP server installed?  Better yet, is there a place that has
>  a list of the installed packages?
>
>  Harold Grovesteen
>  
Hi Harold.

As already posted on the marist list, i'll add that as it's really a 
small and very useful tool that i remember now many people on IBM 
mainframes use as it's similar to the x3270 consoles.

Regarding an ftp server, what are you referring here too? For the images 
we only have the secondary arch spins hosting site at the moment which 
doesn't have FTP access afaik. For the packages themselves we have our 
normal fedora repositories along with mirrors, some of which will have 
FTP access.

The idea of releasing a list of installed packages though is really 
good, i'll do that for the next release and will post the current one to 
the thread on Marist list.

Thanks & regards, Phil

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:52:31 -0500
From: Harold Grovesteen <h.grovsteen(a)tx.rr.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
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Phil Knirsch wrote:

> On 07/21/2009 12:09 PM, Harold Grovesteen wrote:
>   
>
> >Thought I would forward this request to this list.  I am with this
> >poster.  It would be great to have something better than vi.  I just
> >completed installing the latest released disk and am about to add a new
> >disk for /home.
> >
> >Is there an FTP server installed?  Better yet, is there a place that has
> >a list of the installed packages?
> >
> >Harold Grovesteen
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Hi Harold.
>
> As already posted on the marist list, i'll add that as it's really a 
> small and very useful tool that i remember now many people on IBM 
> mainframes use as it's similar to the x3270 consoles.
>
> Regarding an ftp server, what are you referring here too? For the images 
> we only have the secondary arch spins hosting site at the moment which 
> doesn't have FTP access afaik. For the packages themselves we have our 
> normal fedora repositories along with mirrors, some of which will have 
> FTP access.
>
> The idea of releasing a list of installed packages though is really 
> good, i'll do that for the next release and will post the current one to 
> the thread on Marist list.
>  
This would have answered my question. What I was asking is if a FTP 
server was already installed on the Fedora 11 image or not that would 
allow Fedora 11 to be a FTP server as opposed to an FTP client. I am 
assuming it has a client installed. Maybe not. Anyway, this list would 
easily answer such questions. Thanks.

> Thanks & regards, Phil
>
>   
>  


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:06:03 +0200
From: Dan Hor?k <dan(a)danny.cz&gt;
Subject: libatomic_ops
To: fedora-s390x(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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Hi all,

please, could some low-level s390 guru take a look at the atomic
primitives in libatomic_ops [1]? Are they correct, any improvements
possible, ...? I am trying to recommend this library as a universal
source of atomic primitives for user space instead of developing a
limited set for each project individually (and usually only for major
archs like i386/x86_64).


	Thanks
		Dan

[1]
http://bdwgc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bdwgc/bdwgc/libatomic_ops-1.2/
specifically the src/atomic_ops/sysdeps/gcc/s390.h file




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:33:23 +0200
From: Ivan Warren <ivan(a)vmfacility.fr&gt;
Subject: Re: libatomic_ops
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Dan Hor?k wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
>  please, could some low-level s390 guru take a look at the atomic
>  primitives in libatomic_ops [1]? Are they correct, any improvements
>  possible, ...? I am trying to recommend this library as a universal
>  source of atomic primitives for user space instead of developing a
>  limited set for each project individually (and usually only for major
>  archs like i386/x86_64).
>
>
>  	Thanks
>  		Dan
>
>  [1]
>  http://bdwgc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bdwgc/bdwgc/libatomic_ops-1.2/
>  specifically the src/atomic_ops/sysdeps/gcc/s390.h file
>
>
>     
I'm not sure the s390x version is correct.

Apparently (but I could be wrong), AO_t is pretty much guaranteed to be 
a host architecture 'int'.

On s390x, an int is a 32 bit entity.

On s390x, the s390.h code performs a "CSG" - which acts upon 64 bit 
registers, and the target memory address will be seen as a container for 
a 64 bit value (basically storing a 64 bit value in a 32 bit container - 
thus overshooting by 4 bytes).

The Compare and Swap instructions are as follow :

s390/32 bit : CS
s390x/32 bit : CS
s390/64 bit : CDS
s390x/64 bit : CSG or CDS
s390/128 bit : N/A
s390/128 bit : CDSG

See z/Architecture Principles of Operation - SA22-7832-07 (aka 
dz9zr007.pdf) Page 7-66

--Ivan

[Harold Grovesteen]

That had been my plan too. I already run on Linux, so yum works just 
fine. I had used it to install gcc before the latest image was created. 
Please keep track of the dependencies so that others can readily install 
what is needed. Of course, I guess the plan is to have mc installed on 
the next build released.

My question was really motivated for another usage. I plan to set up a 
separate disk with /home and some automation so that I can easily 
install a new disk image and get everything back to where I need it to 
be. I suspect for awhile new ones will be released on a fairly regular 
basis.

Harold

Bernie VK2KAD wrote:

> In response to Harold's question - there is a SFTP service running
> on the
> Fedora11 image.  At least in the Hercules image that is.
>
> Using it I was able to FTP the Midnight Commander RPM to Fedora after
> downloading it on my Windows host.  I used psftp as the Windows Client (From
> the makers of Putty).  Unfortunately the RPM wasn't installable as there
> were many unmet dependencies.   I am now in the process of setting up
> Hercules on Ubuntu - hopefully my Windows networking woes will go away and I
> will be able to 'yum install' everything I need, then I can just ship the
> image back to windows !!   (Well that's my plan for now)
>
> Bern
>
>
>
>
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>
>    1. Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
>       (Phil Knirsch)
>    2. Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
>       (Harold Grovesteen)
>    3. libatomic_ops (Dan Hor?k)
>    4. Re: libatomic_ops (Ivan Warren)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:09:19 +0200
> From: Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com&gt;
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available]
> To: fedora-s390x(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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> On 07/21/2009 12:09 PM, Harold Grovesteen wrote:
>   
>
> >Thought I would forward this request to this list.  I am with this
> >poster.  It would be great to have something better than vi.  I just
> >completed installing the latest released disk and am about to add a new
> >disk for /home.
> >
> >Is there an FTP server installed?  Better yet, is there a place that has
> >a list of the installed packages?
> >
> >Harold Grovesteen
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Hi Harold.
>
> As already posted on the marist list, i'll add that as it's really a 
> small and very useful tool that i remember now many people on IBM 
> mainframes use as it's similar to the x3270 consoles.
>
> Regarding an ftp server, what are you referring here too? For the images 
> we only have the secondary arch spins hosting site at the moment which 
> doesn't have FTP access afaik. For the packages themselves we have our 
> normal fedora repositories along with mirrors, some of which will have 
> FTP access.
>
> The idea of releasing a list of installed packages though is really 
> good, i'll do that for the next release and will post the current one to 
> the thread on Marist list.
>
> Thanks & regards, Phil
>
>   
>

[Peter SYLVESTER]

Think about "scp"  instead of ftp.

scp copies files between hosts on a network.  It uses ssh(1) for data
     transfer, and uses the same authentication and provides the same security
     as ssh(1).  Unlike rcp(1), scp will ask for passwords or passphrases if
     they are needed for authentication.