New List member

[Philip Pinto]

Hi all - 

 

I just wanted to say hello and thanks for all of the effort getting this off
the ground.  I'm sure the work you do here helps out many who use the Redhat
Enterprise Linux environment in major corporations for taking a peak at what
might be coming in the future releases for RHEL - this platform provides a
great environment for learning, testing and development - without any risks
production.  

 

I was able to install the build system you provided in July and performed
the updates to get to what I guess is a pseudo version of FC12 - I am
assuming that once the installation of the base system at FC11 is complete
and new the new RPMS for YUM, RPM and xz libraries then performing a yum
update get's you to base that is s390x-FC12.  I am somewhat new to Fedora -
I used RHEL 4 and 5 on zSeries for quite a few years so this just might be
different with Fedora. 

 

I just had a couple of questions.  

 

Is there a plan to provide a DVD ISO of this environment to perform an
anaconda type install, using NFS, or HTTP etc similar to RHEL releases?

 

Will there be separate repos in the future to segregate releases - not sure
if this is a fedora thing or if this happened just because s390x-FC11 was so
new and Fedora moves so quickly that this time around things ended up
rolling together?   

 

My test environment that I am using is based on Hercules 3.6+ and I have
seen no issues with anything using it.  The information that this mailing
list provides gave me the information needed to get the CTC / networking
stuff working properly.   

 

Nice Job! 

 

Thanks.

 

Phil Pinto

[Phil Knirsch]

Hi and welcome Philip!

On 01/28/2010 03:49 AM, Philip Pinto wrote:
>  Hi all -
>
>  I just wanted to say hello and thanks for all of the effort getting this
>  off the ground. I’m sure the work you do here helps out many who use the
>  Redhat Enterprise Linux environment in major corporations for taking a
>  peak at what might be coming in the future releases for RHEL – this
>  platform provides a great environment for learning, testing and
>  development – without any risks production.
>  
Thats greatly appreciated. We've tried to at least provide something 
useful for Fedora now again initially but had to focus quite a bit of 
work back to RHEL lately. This will hopefully change soon as we're 
aiming to get a full secondary arch Fedora 13 up and running for s390x 
again.

>  I was able to install the build system you provided in July and
>  performed the updates to get to what I guess is a pseudo version of FC12
>  – I am assuming that once the installation of the base system at FC11 is
>  complete and new the new RPMS for YUM, RPM and xz libraries then
>  performing a yum update get’s you to base that is s390x-FC12. I am
>  somewhat new to Fedora – I used RHEL 4 and 5 on zSeries for quite a few
>  years so this just might be different with Fedora.
>
>  I just had a couple of questions.
>
>  Is there a plan to provide a DVD ISO of this environment to perform an
>  anaconda type install, using NFS, or HTTP etc similar to RHEL releases?
>  
Not at the moment, no. It's also fairly difficult, and specifically if 
you are using hercules i'm not even sure it's possible. There is a way 
to do install using a HMC on a real IBM z9/z10 with a DVD drive attached 
to it, but from what i recall it bascially only exports the DVD via NFS 
or HTTP to the z9/z10, so from the mainframe side it's still a network 
install.

>  Will there be separate repos in the future to segregate releases –
> not
>  sure if this is a fedora thing or if this happened just because
>  s390x-FC11 was so new and Fedora moves so quickly that this time around
>  things ended up rolling together?
>  
Yes, definitely. The mixed F11/F12 effort was basically a first stab at 
getting s390x back as a supported architecture. Starting with F13 the 
goal is to just follow the normal Fedora release cycle with appropriate 
trees and repos.

>  My test environment that I am using is based on Hercules 3.6+ and I
> have
>  seen no issues with anything using it. The information that this mailing
>  list provides gave me the information needed to get the CTC / networking
>  stuff working properly.
>
>  Nice Job!
>
>  Thanks…
>  
Great to hear that! As soon as we have more information on the status 
for F13 and forward we'll post something here on the list. Probably 
accompanied with a fully updated iamge as well.

Thanks & regards, Phil

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[Harold Grovesteen]

Phil Knirsch wrote:

> Hi and welcome Philip!
>
> On 01/28/2010 03:49 AM, Philip Pinto wrote:
>   
>
> >Hi all -
> >
> >I just wanted to say hello and thanks for all of the effort getting this
> >off the ground. I’m sure the work you do here helps out many who use the
> >Redhat Enterprise Linux environment in major corporations for taking a
> >peak at what might be coming in the future releases for RHEL – this
> >platform provides a great environment for learning, testing and
> >development – without any risks production.
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Thats greatly appreciated. We've tried to at least provide something 
> useful for Fedora now again initially but had to focus quite a bit of 
> work back to RHEL lately. This will hopefully change soon as we're 
> aiming to get a full secondary arch Fedora 13 up and running for s390x 
> again.
>
>   
>
> >I was able to install the build system you provided in July and
> >performed the updates to get to what I guess is a pseudo version of FC12
> >– I am assuming that once the installation of the base system at FC11 is
> >complete and new the new RPMS for YUM, RPM and xz libraries then
> >performing a yum update get’s you to base that is s390x-FC12. I am
> >somewhat new to Fedora – I used RHEL 4 and 5 on zSeries for quite a few
> >years so this just might be different with Fedora.
> >
> >I just had a couple of questions.
> >
> >Is there a plan to provide a DVD ISO of this environment to perform an
> >anaconda type install, using NFS, or HTTP etc similar to RHEL releases?
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Not at the moment, no. It's also fairly difficult, and specifically if 
> you are using hercules i'm not even sure it's possible. There is a way 
> to do install using a HMC on a real IBM z9/z10 with a DVD drive attached 
> to it, but from what i recall it bascially only exports the DVD via NFS 
> or HTTP to the z9/z10, so from the mainframe side it's still a network 
> install.
>   
>  
For the network part, provided your Hercules networking setup is 
functional, the answer is yes.  If by  using  the HMC you also mean to 
IPL from the DVD (or CD) the installer, the answer is also yes.  
Hercules can emulate a CDROM or DVD IPL.

>   
>
> >Will there be separate repos in the future to segregate releases – not
> >sure if this is a fedora thing or if this happened just because
> >s390x-FC11 was so new and Fedora moves so quickly that this time around
> >things ended up rolling together?
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Yes, definitely. The mixed F11/F12 effort was basically a first stab at 
> getting s390x back as a supported architecture. Starting with F13 the 
> goal is to just follow the normal Fedora release cycle with appropriate 
> trees and repos.
>
>   
>
> >My test environment that I am using is based on Hercules 3.6+ and I have
> >seen no issues with anything using it. The information that this mailing
> >list provides gave me the information needed to get the CTC / networking
> >stuff working properly.
> >
> >Nice Job!
> >
> >Thanks…
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Great to hear that! As soon as we have more information on the status 
> for F13 and forward we'll post something here on the list. Probably 
> accompanied with a fully updated iamge as well.
>
> Thanks & regards, Phil
>
>   
>

[Philip Pinto]

Ø  For the network part, provided your Hercules networking setup is
functional, the answer is yes.  If by  using  the HMC you also mean to IPL
from the DVD (or CD) the installer, the answer is also yes.  Hercules can
emulate a CDROM or DVD IPL.



 

Harold – yes you are correct – I have been able to do installations
basically like you would on bare metal using Hercules it takes a while and
you need an NFS, SAMBA, HTTP or FTP connection to the package repository
but the procedure is very similar to what is described in the RHEL 4.x and
5.x manuals for installation on zSeries.  

 

Thanks 

- Phil Pinto

 

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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Harold
Grovesteen
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:17 AM
To: s390x(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: New List member

 



Phil Knirsch wrote:



Hi and welcome Philip!
 
On 01/28/2010 03:49 AM, Philip Pinto wrote:
  

Hi all -
 
I just wanted to say hello and thanks for all of the effort getting this
off the ground. I’m sure the work you do here helps out many who use the
Redhat Enterprise Linux environment in major corporations for taking a
peak at what might be coming in the future releases for RHEL – this
platform provides a great environment for learning, testing and
development – without any risks production.
 
    

 
Thats greatly appreciated. We've tried to at least provide something 
useful for Fedora now again initially but had to focus quite a bit of 
work back to RHEL lately. This will hopefully change soon as we're 
aiming to get a full secondary arch Fedora 13 up and running for s390x 
again.
 
  

I was able to install the build system you provided in July and
performed the updates to get to what I guess is a pseudo version of FC12
– I am assuming that once the installation of the base system at FC11 is
complete and new the new RPMS for YUM, RPM and xz libraries then
performing a yum update get’s you to base that is s390x-FC12. I am
somewhat new to Fedora – I used RHEL 4 and 5 on zSeries for quite a few
years so this just might be different with Fedora.
 
I just had a couple of questions.
 
Is there a plan to provide a DVD ISO of this environment to perform an
anaconda type install, using NFS, or HTTP etc similar to RHEL releases?
 
    

 
Not at the moment, no. It's also fairly difficult, and specifically if 
you are using hercules i'm not even sure it's possible. There is a way 
to do install using a HMC on a real IBM z9/z10 with a DVD drive attached 
to it, but from what i recall it bascially only exports the DVD via NFS 
or HTTP to the z9/z10, so from the mainframe side it's still a network 
install.
  

For the network part, provided your Hercules networking setup is functional,
the answer is yes.  If by  using  the HMC you also mean to IPL from the DVD
(or CD) the installer, the answer is also yes.  Hercules can emulate a CDROM
or DVD IPL.



 
  

Will there be separate repos in the future to segregate releases – not
sure if this is a fedora thing or if this happened just because
s390x-FC11 was so new and Fedora moves so quickly that this time around
things ended up rolling together?
 
    

 
Yes, definitely. The mixed F11/F12 effort was basically a first stab at 
getting s390x back as a supported architecture. Starting with F13 the 
goal is to just follow the normal Fedora release cycle with appropriate 
trees and repos.
 
  

My test environment that I am using is based on Hercules 3.6+ and I have
seen no issues with anything using it. The information that this mailing
list provides gave me the information needed to get the CTC / networking
stuff working properly.
 
Nice Job!
 
Thanks…
 
    

 
Great to hear that! As soon as we have more information on the status 
for F13 and forward we'll post something here on the list. Probably 
accompanied with a fully updated iamge as well.
 
Thanks & regards, Phil