3:04 p.m.
We need an icon to be used on the desktop which is associated with
SELinux. The first intended use would be the icon associated with
setroubleshoot to indicate you have an SELinux issue to deal with.
In the interim we've been using Tux with a badge, but we can't use Tux
because of legal constraints (however, lets not go down that rathole in
this thread :-).
We can't use a police badge because that's very close to the icon used
for consolehelper root access.
So far we've come up with:
* Traffic Light (indicates stop/go).
* Crossed swords
* Bobby hat (English policeman)
We would like some suggestions, anybody have a good idea? Just remember
it has to be identifiable at small sizes. Images associated with the NSA
probably won't get warm feelings in a variety of places.
--
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Red Hat Inc.
3:33 p.m.
John Dennis wrote:
We need an icon to be used on the desktop which is associated with
SELinux. The first intended use would be the icon associated with
setroubleshoot to indicate you have an SELinux issue to deal with.
In the interim we've been using Tux with a badge, but we can't use Tux
because of legal constraints (however, lets not go down that rathole in
this thread :-).
We can't use a police badge because that's very close to the icon used
for consolehelper root access.
So far we've come up with:
* Traffic Light (indicates stop/go).
* Crossed swords
* Bobby hat (English policeman)
We would like some suggestions, anybody have a good idea? Just remember
it has to be identifiable at small sizes. Images associated with the NSA
probably won't get warm feelings in a variety of places.
Images associated with NSA won't go over well ? Hrmm.... maybe this is a
*detailed* look and feel.... how about a star fish, inside an unbroken
circle ?
(It is ready made for O'Reilly ;-)
PPS: The crossed swords have my vote, if you don't like the starfish.
That, or you put the starfish inside a pentagon.....instead of an
unbroken circle,
just different enough from the original to be unique. It would then
symbolize
"isolation and containment".... aligning the stars legs to the corners
of the pentagon,
isolating each 5th of the pentagon from the other.
Both are recognizable, but not too similar to familiar logo's among
the puzzle palace crowd.
(James Bamford, I am not.)
Of course, you could use the silhouette of a piece of a jigsaw
puzzle..... maybe with 5 "connectors",
but that would be too obscure...
Or, yet still, combine the elements, a jigsaw puzzle piece, with a
starfish, inside a pentagon,
on the surface of the puzzle piece. ;-)
Of course, there is the idea of a simple old fashioned "Flask" as a
logo...... maybe even an
antique flask, like a goatskin wine canteen (Zahato). That idea has some
style....
</.02c ALT="To be taken with a grain of salt, and a little
imagination.">
4:22 p.m.
Richard Irving wrote:
John Dennis wrote:
> We need an icon to be used on the desktop which is associated with
> SELinux. The first intended use would be the icon associated with
> setroubleshoot to indicate you have an SELinux issue to deal with.
>
> In the interim we've been using Tux with a badge, but we can't use Tux
> because of legal constraints (however, lets not go down that rathole in
> this thread :-).
Rathole? I thought Tux is a penguin... ;-)
> We can't use a police badge because that's very close to
the icon used
> for consolehelper root access.
>
> So far we've come up with:
>
> * Traffic Light (indicates stop/go).
>
> * Crossed swords
>
> * Bobby hat (English policeman)
>
> We would like some suggestions, anybody have a good idea? Just remember
> it has to be identifiable at small sizes. Images associated with the NSA
> probably won't get warm feelings in a variety of places.
It seems to me that (notwithstanding the political overtones) this
position would be denying their significant contributions to this
effort. Not just the organization as an entity, but that of key
individuals.
Images associated with NSA won't go over well ? Hrmm.... maybe
this is a
*detailed* look and feel.... how about a star fish, inside an unbroken
circle ?
(It is ready made for O'Reilly ;-)
O'Reilly already has their SELinux cover imagery (see McCarty's book)
with Civil War era soldiers... :-)
Though one could go further back than that in U.S. history to Paul
Revere and the "Mechanics"...
PPS: The crossed swords have my vote, if you don't like the
starfish.
That, or you put the starfish inside a pentagon.....instead of an
unbroken circle,
just different enough from the original to be unique. It would then
symbolize
"isolation and containment".... aligning the stars legs to the corners
of the pentagon,
isolating each 5th of the pentagon from the other.
Both are recognizable, but not too similar to familiar logo's among the
puzzle palace crowd.
(James Bamford, I am not.)
Of course, you could use the silhouette of a piece of a jigsaw
puzzle..... maybe with 5 "connectors",
but that would be too obscure...
Or, yet still, combine the elements, a jigsaw puzzle piece, with a
starfish, inside a pentagon,
on the surface of the puzzle piece. ;-)
Of course, there is the idea of a simple old fashioned "Flask" as a
logo...... maybe even an
antique flask, like a goatskin wine canteen (Zahato). That idea has some
style....
Filled with a good single malt?
</.02c ALT="To be taken with a grain of salt, and a little
imagination.">
Some interesting ideas.
How about this one:
A gold key, the shape of which is consistent with the key in the NSA
logo being held onto by the eagle. Superimposed over the key is a red
exclamation point or perhaps a red "I" information bubble icon.
That's my 0.02 cents (or 0.0222 CD) ;-)
Marc Schwartz
5:30 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:22 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote:
>> We would like some suggestions, anybody have a good idea?
Just remember
>> it has to be identifiable at small sizes. Images associated with the NSA
>> probably won't get warm feelings in a variety of places.
It seems to me that (notwithstanding the political overtones) this
position would be denying their significant contributions to this
effort. Not just the organization as an entity, but that of key
individuals.
I did not mean to denigrate the contributions of the NSA nor anyone
associated with it, rather I wanted draw attention to the power of
images. Previous threads which considered a logo or icon for SELinux
often saw suggestions related to the NSA, but this would be problematic.
Perception is key in selecting iconography. Any visible suggestion that
the software which has been installed on a user's system could be
related to NSA monitoring will create barriers to acceptance. We're
trying to dismantle the acceptance barriers, not erect new ones. Those
of us involved in SELinux work clearly understand the technology has
nothing to do with NSA monitoring but that is of little value when
countering public perception fueled by uninformed conclusions. Bear in
mind the iconography will be viewed not just by Linux geeks familiar
with the technology and its history but potentially by any desktop user,
domestic and international for whom this may be their first visible
introduction to the technology. We don't want them to draw the false
conclusion the NSA has tentacles into their private computer.
--
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Red Hat Inc.
5:59 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 12:30 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:22 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote:
> >> We would like some suggestions, anybody have a good idea? Just remember
> >> it has to be identifiable at small sizes. Images associated with the NSA
> >> probably won't get warm feelings in a variety of places.
>
> It seems to me that (notwithstanding the political overtones) this
> position would be denying their significant contributions to this
> effort. Not just the organization as an entity, but that of key
> individuals.
I did not mean to denigrate the contributions of the NSA nor anyone
associated with it, rather I wanted draw attention to the power of
images. Previous threads which considered a logo or icon for SELinux
often saw suggestions related to the NSA, but this would be problematic.
Perception is key in selecting iconography. Any visible suggestion that
the software which has been installed on a user's system could be
related to NSA monitoring will create barriers to acceptance. We're
trying to dismantle the acceptance barriers, not erect new ones. Those
of us involved in SELinux work clearly understand the technology has
nothing to do with NSA monitoring but that is of little value when
countering public perception fueled by uninformed conclusions. Bear in
mind the iconography will be viewed not just by Linux geeks familiar
with the technology and its history but potentially by any desktop user,
domestic and international for whom this may be their first visible
introduction to the technology. We don't want them to draw the false
conclusion the NSA has tentacles into their private computer.
John,
I appreciate the position. I did not mean to infer that the icon(s)
needed to be overt representations based upon their logo, which in turn
is tied to the commonality of official U.S. government logos.
Something more subtle would still seem acceptable without invoking
negative reactions, here and abroad.
At some point, most security related iconography is going to be related
to the fundamental issues inherent in this discussion, whether they be
some form of badge/shield (police or military), swords (or more
generally, weapons of some type) or something similar.
That's why I referenced the key. It is something of a more general
security symbol, while still tying back to the NSA in a more subtle
fashion.
As someone smarter than I once said:
"Facts are negotiable, perception is reality"
Having a daughter who just returned from spending five weeks in northern
Uganda working with Invisible Children, I can certainly appreciate the
power and impact of images...
Thanks John.
Regards,
Marc
11:46 p.m.
I propose an Horus eye since selinux checks the system against forbidden
accesses. I haven't the faintest idea if it's used by the NSA or anyone
else (probably - it's an old a well-known symbol)
--
Nicolas Mailhot
12:31 a.m.
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
I propose an Horus eye since selinux checks the system against
forbidden
accesses. I haven't the faintest idea if it's used by the NSA or anyone
else (probably - it's an old a well-known symbol)
Talk about "noiding the masses out", even kindly fatherly Darpa had
to drop
that from their "Scientia Est Potentia" campaign.... :-P
McCarthyism, "born again" or not, is a double edged sword at best.
I wonder who will deliver the "Have you no shame ?" speech *this*
time... ;-P
(Were these different times, your idea has merit... alas...)
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5:45 p.m.
Marc Schwartz wrote:
Richard Irving wrote:
>
> Of course, there is the idea of a simple old fashioned "Flask" as a
> logo...... maybe even an
> antique flask, like a goatskin wine canteen (Zahato). That idea has
> some style....
Filled with a good single malt?
Only if it has been *properly* aged in a burnt oak barrel. ;-)
> </.02c ALT="To be taken with a grain of salt, and a little
> imagination.">
Some interesting ideas.
How about this one:
A gold key, the shape of which is consistent with the key in the NSA
logo being held onto by the eagle. Superimposed over the key is a red
exclamation point or perhaps a red "I" information bubble icon.
I like that. I also like the black and white alternating pentacle on
the edge of the seal, it is distinctive symbol.
How about combining idea's, as long as they still work at the icon
level.....
The flask (Bota) has an outline that conforms with many of the PHI
curves, such as the nautilus,
that trademark the Unix philosophy... (debian logo, the snail
shell.... etc.)
So does the pentacle, obviously. (Although, not -curves-...)
A:
The bota flask, with the alternating black and white pentacle, on the
side....
with the Key superimposed over the pentacle... gives one an excuse
to make the key "Golden", as well.... (this is rather simple)
B:
Or, the Golden key about to be inserted into a lock, the keyhole is
located in
the center of an alternating pentacle, perhaps in the interior
pentagon....
With a golden or red capital "I", as the keyhole.... but the lock
outline,
describing the symbol PHI, using the I (the keyhole) as the center
I of the phi symbol. (The outline of the lock forming the oblong O
around the I)
(this, a little more complex...)
Another .02c, dreams are cheap. :-)
That's my 0.02 cents (or 0.0222 CD) ;-)
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6:08 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 12:45 -0400, Richard Irving wrote:
Marc Schwartz wrote:
> Richard Irving wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course, there is the idea of a simple old fashioned "Flask" as a
>> logo...... maybe even an
>> antique flask, like a goatskin wine canteen (Zahato). That idea has
>> some style....
>
>
> Filled with a good single malt?
Only if it has been *properly* aged in a burnt oak barrel. ;-)
Burnt oak barrels previously used to age Sherry... ;-)
> Some interesting ideas.
>
> How about this one:
>
> A gold key, the shape of which is consistent with the key in the NSA
> logo being held onto by the eagle. Superimposed over the key is a red
> exclamation point or perhaps a red "I" information bubble icon.
I like that. I also like the black and white alternating pentacle on
the edge of the seal, it is distinctive symbol.
How about combining idea's, as long as they still work at the icon
level.....
The flask (Bota) has an outline that conforms with many of the PHI
curves, such as the nautilus,
that trademark the Unix philosophy... (debian logo, the snail
shell.... etc.)
So does the pentacle, obviously. (Although, not -curves-...)
A:
The bota flask, with the alternating black and white pentacle, on the
side....
with the Key superimposed over the pentacle... gives one an excuse
to make the key "Golden", as well.... (this is rather simple)
B:
Or, the Golden key about to be inserted into a lock, the keyhole is
located in
the center of an alternating pentacle, perhaps in the interior
pentagon....
With a golden or red capital "I", as the keyhole.... but the lock
outline,
describing the symbol PHI, using the I (the keyhole) as the center
I of the phi symbol. (The outline of the lock forming the oblong O
around the I)
(this, a little more complex...)
Phine ideas! ;-)
Another .02c, dreams are cheap. :-)
Yes, but turning them in to reality is hard work indeed... :-)
Cheers,
Marc
12:26 a.m.
How about an alligator?
knute...
We need an icon to be used on the desktop which is associated with
SELinux. The first intended use would be the icon associated with
setroubleshoot to indicate you have an SELinux issue to deal with.
In the interim we've been using Tux with a badge, but we can't use Tux
because of legal constraints (however, lets not go down that rathole in
this thread :-).
We can't use a police badge because that's very close to the icon used
for consolehelper root access.
So far we've come up with:
* Traffic Light (indicates stop/go).
* Crossed swords
* Bobby hat (English policeman)
We would like some suggestions, anybody have a good idea? Just remember
it has to be identifiable at small sizes. Images associated with the NSA
probably won't get warm feelings in a variety of places.
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12:54 a.m.
Knute Johnson wrote:
How about an alligator?
knute...
Hrmm.... a fresh idea. Interesting.
A subtle derivative might be a Gecko in a London Fog,
with the collar turned up....
But, I digress.... ;-)
FWIW, I still like incorporating the "Key" idea,
so far... I also like the "wine flask" (Bota) idea, but
the black and white alternating pentacle, like the Horus Eye, may be
over the top...
then again, maybe not... it is a little more subtle.
Another .02c.
</noise><signal>
10:03 a.m.
Le Jeu 31 août 2006 01:54, Richard Irving a écrit :
FWIW, I still like incorporating the "Key" idea,
so far... I also like the "wine flask" (Bota) idea, but
the black and white alternating pentacle, like the Horus Eye, may be
over the top... then again, maybe not... it is a little more subtle.
Note that the original Horus Eye was painted on boats to protect them,
which is exactly what selinux does. The spy associations came much later
--
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10:13 a.m.
Le Jeu 31 août 2006 11:03, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
Le Jeu 31 août 2006 01:54, Richard Irving a écrit :
> FWIW, I still like incorporating the "Key" idea,
> so far... I also like the "wine flask" (Bota) idea, but
> the black and white alternating pentacle, like the Horus Eye, may be
> over the top... then again, maybe not... it is a little more subtle.
Note that the original Horus Eye was painted on boats to protect them,
which is exactly what selinux does. The spy associations came much later
(and you can probably disambiguate the meaning by drawing a trireme prow
around it)
--
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4:06 p.m.
What about something with a honeycomb structure, to suggest the
compartmented nature of an SELinux system?
Keys suggest crypto.
- James
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4:55 p.m.
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
James Morris wrote:
> What about something with a honeycomb structure, to suggest the
> compartmented nature of an SELinux system?
>
> Keys suggest crypto.
>
>
>
>
> - James
>
Another suggestion would be a shield, think Middle Ages.
How about something like a Tux with a sword and shield.
http://www.barelyfitz.com/services/3d/tux-frontpage.jpg
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Andy Suchoski wrote:
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> James Morris wrote:
>> What about something with a honeycomb structure, to suggest the
>> compartmented nature of an SELinux system?
>>
>> Keys suggest crypto.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - James
>>
> Another suggestion would be a shield, think Middle Ages.
How about something like a Tux with a sword and shield.
http://www.barelyfitz.com/services/3d/tux-frontpage.jpg
Cute but Tux/Penquins are not allowed. Also they want to avoid hats.
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5:35 p.m.
On Thursday 31 August 2006 10:03am, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
Andy Suchoski wrote:
[snip]
Cute but Tux/Penquins are not allowed. Also they want to avoid hats.
How about a maze with paths that lead to "rooms" inside, but no connections
between the separate paths.
The rooms could even have something in them to indicate they are "serving"
different things.
The outer wall could look like a computer case or motherboard.
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5:50 p.m.
Lamont R. Peterson wrote:
On Thursday 31 August 2006 10:03am, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> Andy Suchoski wrote:
>
[snip]
> Cute but Tux/Penquins are not allowed. Also they want to avoid hats.
>
How about a maze with paths that lead to "rooms" inside, but no connections
between the separate paths.
The rooms could even have something in them to indicate they are "serving"
different things.
The outer wall could look like a computer case or motherboard.
that wont work as a small icon
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On Thursday 31 August 2006 10:50am, dragoran wrote:
Lamont R. Peterson wrote:
> On Thursday 31 August 2006 10:03am, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> Andy Suchoski wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> Cute but Tux/Penquins are not allowed. Also they want to avoid hats.
>
> How about a maze with paths that lead to "rooms" inside, but no
> connections between the separate paths.
>
> The rooms could even have something in them to indicate they are
> "serving" different things.
>
> The outer wall could look like a computer case or motherboard.
that wont work as a small icon
You have a good point, there. It would have to be kept simple. It could work
as a small icon, by just drawing only a small part, such as only 2
rooms with short paths and let the rest "fade out" into the "distance"
(i.e.,
let further walls be truncated).
I realized while I was suggesting it that this could easily become too
complicated to work well for an icon type logo. Still, I put the idea out
there, we just have to suppress our tendency to want to see the whole big
picture at once and, instead, just zoom in to show only enough to clearly see
that which sets SELinux apart (pun intended).
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5:31 p.m.
On Thursday 31 August 2006 09:35am, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
[snip]
Another suggestion would be a shield, think Middle Ages.
That reminds me of the AppArmor logo. Probably not a good idea because of
that parallel.
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2:55 p.m.
Thank you everyone for your wonderful suggestions, it's been a treat
to read though and consider. I tried to condense and summarize the
thread with some editorial prerogative with the hope of narrowing
things down so we can get a few images to review. If you have artistic
skills and would like to submit a contribution that would be
wonderful. We'll also take a few take a couple of ideas to our graphic
artist Diana Fong and see what she comes up with.
Some of the suggestions, at least for me, did not intuitively invoke
an association with protection (e.g. the bota flask). Other
suggestions seemed too generic leaving one wondering without ambiguity
what the image was trying to tell me, e.g. watching eyes, keys in
locks, shields, etc. While some of these images do in fact invoke the
notion of protection they've also become quite overloaded, e.g is the
icon for my virus protection?, my key ring?, my authentication logon?
etc. It has to somehow be distinctively unique so the user does not
confuse it with something else. More to the point we also want to
train people to associate the image with SELinux exclusively, I don't
think we can do that with something like a key in a lock. Finally we
should bear in mind the audience will be international.
Let's do a straw poll vote:
A) Star fish inscribed in a circle (pentagon)
B) Golden key inscribed in a pentagon
C) Mousetrap
D) Gecko in a trench coat with the collar turned up
E) Crossed swords
Here is some of the contextual background:
Richard Irving:
how about a star fish, inside an unbroken circle ?
starfish inside a pentagon.instead of an unbroken circle, just
different enough from the original to be unique. It would then
symbolize "isolation and containment".... aligning the stars legs
to the corners of the pentagon, isolating each 5th of the pentagon
from the other.
there is the idea of a simple old fashioned "Flask" ...
The flask (Bota) has an outline that conforms with many of the PHI
curves, such as the nautilus, that trademark the Unix
philosophy... (debian logo, the snail shell.... etc.) So does the
pentacle, obviously.
The bota flask, with the alternating black and white pentacle, on
the side with the Key superimposed over the pentacle... gives one
an excuse to make the key "Golden", as well.... (this is rather
simple)
I also like the black and white alternating pentacle on the edge
of the seal, it is distinctive symbol.
The Golden key about to be inserted into a lock, the keyhole is
located in the center of an alternating pentacle, perhaps in the
interior pentagon. With a golden or red capital "I", as the
keyhole.... but the lock outline, describing the symbol PHI, using
the I (the keyhole) as the center I of the phi symbol. (The
outline of the lock forming the oblong O around the I)
A subtle derivative might be a Gecko in a London Fog, with the
collar turned up....
PPS: The crossed swords have my vote, if you don't like the
starfish.
Marc Schwartz
A gold key, the shape of which is consistent with the key in the
NSA logo being held onto by the eagle. Superimposed over the key
is a red exclamation point or perhaps a red "I" information bubble
icon.
Nicolas Mailhot
I propose an Horus eye since selinux checks the system against
forbidden accesses.
How about a comics-like mousetrap squeezing a bad guy (complete
with mask/scarf/black fedora/whatever) ?
James Morris
What about something with a honeycomb structure, to suggest the
compartmented nature of an SELinux system?
Dan Walsh
Another suggestion would be a shield, think Middle Ages.
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3:03 p.m.
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 09:55 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
Let's do a straw poll vote:
A) Star fish inscribed in a circle (pentagon)
B) Golden key inscribed in a pentagon
C) Mousetrap
D) Gecko in a trench coat with the collar turned up
E) Crossed swords
The starfish inscribed in a circle reminds me of the badge worn by
sheriffs in westerns, but that might too cultural and possibly too
generic. The mousetrap and gecko are cool, fun, playful and don't have
other strong associations, I like them. But my vote probably goes for B,
it seems to strike the right balance between existing associations, is
uniquely different, maintains dignity, and would be recognizable at
small sizes.
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4:43 p.m.
At 10:03 AM -0400 9/1/06, John Dennis wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 09:55 -0400, John Dennis wrote:
> Let's do a straw poll vote:
>
> A) Star fish inscribed in a circle (pentagon)
>
> B) Golden key inscribed in a pentagon
>
> C) Mousetrap
>
> D) Gecko in a trench coat with the collar turned up
>
> E) Crossed swords
The starfish inscribed in a circle reminds me of the badge worn by
sheriffs in westerns, but that might too cultural and possibly too
generic. The mousetrap and gecko are cool, fun, playful and don't have
other strong associations, I like them. But my vote probably goes for B,
it seems to strike the right balance between existing associations, is
uniquely different, maintains dignity, and would be recognizable at
small sizes.
I expect that pentagons are out, because of the association with the
US Department of Defense.
How about an exterior window showing a (view of a room with a) barred
interior door? That derives from the SELinux metaphor that even if
"they" get in through the windows, the doors to other rooms are still
locked. That should be doable as an icon, and recognizable as the
same icon when shown as a small icon. It would have lots of
right-angles, so even I could draw one.
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