I'm not subscribed to this list, but Stephen thought this might be
useful information. This is just my use case as an admin for a remote
site that runs Fedora all around. (It's a school.)
I find it very helpful to run some graphical applications on a server at
a remote site. A full desktop environment is excessive for my purposes,
so I just run vncserver with openbox. This way I can run graphical
tools remotely from systems at the site (e.g. system-config-printer). I
can view them on the vnc server without running the full X protocol over
the internet as well as being able to resume the session if I get
disconnected. I also run Firefox on the server to access local
web-based admin tools such as switches and FreeIPA. I could (and do)
use an ssh http proxy as well, but it's handy to keep the Firefox state
on the server and it's significantly more difficult to setup kerberos on
my laptop to be able to talk to the FreeIPA web interface remotely.
I originally started the server as a minimal install and that would be
sufficient for an isolated server. But I ended up going this way
because it makes managing the remote network much easier.
For future reference for anyone attempting this, after installing
tigervnc-server and openbox, the only package missing to make it useable
is xorg-x11-fonts-Type1. If you don't install that, you get some very
interesting but unreadable text. I wonder if that should be added as a
dependency to one of the base X packages.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danishka Navin" <danishka(a)gmail.com>
> To: server(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:37:08 AM
> Subject: Self Introduction
> I am Danishka Navin (FAS: snavin) .
> I would like to take a part of this Server Working Group.
Welcome on board, my friend! :)
Could you please introduce little bit about you to other group members.
I have been talking with Stephen about a DE for F22 and he has given
me a green light for proposing just that so here it goes:
Objective for proposal:
-To implement a desktop environment for F22 Server.
-Let the user have a choice for going to a DE or bare CLI.
-Have a GUI toolbox to diagnose hardware and networks.
Justification for proposal: The addition of a DE to F22 (x86) would
give system admins a choice of going to headless or use GUI interface.
Additionally many companies do not have the resources to have rack
cabinets or extra machines to access the Cockpit (Most of these
companies are small businesses). Also there are some software packages
that need a desktop interface to install such as Bitnami
(https://bitnami.com/) or Oracle Database, this not only applies to
open source software but proprietary software which mostly installs on
a GUI interface.
Sidenote: Even the Windows Server has a GUI and if you want to go to
just a plain CLI then you can do that. So why not Fedora Server?
Implementation: Wayland as a display server with KDE or Gnome (per
Server SIG's suggestions) as the default DE. Most of the applications
if not all will be removed including widgets and any fancy graphics.
Also this would be a great opportunity to apply some GUI tools such as
Wireshark to the DE.
Notes for KDE: KDE's "Netbook Workspace" might be a good starting
point to have since it's designed for "Quick-use", might be minimal
enough for a server environment.
Alternative DE: I would also like to propose a LXDE or LXQt as a
alternative DE because both KDE and Gnome are both heavy DE's in terms
of RAM and widgets / flair. Also there stripped enough that they will
do the job just as well as a heavily modified KDE and Gnome.
That is all, the floor is open to anyone. I am very open to
As we're getting to pretty solid RC, it's again time for release
announcement. Readiness meeting is on Thursday, would be nice to
have a draft ready for review and final version next Monday, so
text formatted and magazine versions can be prepared in advance.
Workstation seems to be pretty covered, do we have any additions
to Server and Cloud? The other thing is to get rid of all Beta
Thanks Joe for starting it and Paul for Workstation bit so
far! We had the best Alpha/Beta announcements so far, let's
continue with this high bar :).
Hello Fedora Server people,
I've recently joined the mailing list and wanted to introduce myself.
I've degrees in software engineering and business with post graduate in
spatial science. Spent about 10 years in local government working in all
aspects of IT from helpdesk through to server builds and software
packaging. Currently working in an asset management / spatial analyst role
working with Autodesk, ESRI and ms sql and Oracle spatial dbs.
Still do a bit of software development but mainly android mobile apps for
I have been using Linux for the last decade at home for my workstation for
everyday computing and development and on the home server for file,
streaming media and, um, err minecraft server, for the kids of course.
Outside of IT when not taxi-ing kids to sport, social activities etc I
spend my time playing soccer and surfing and my wife and I are renovating
I am not sure how to begin and help out but I hope to be involved where
ever there is a need so please let me know how I can assist.
#fedora-meeting-2: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2014-12-02)
Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:10:26 UTC. The full logs are available
* roll call (sgallagh, 16:10:26)
* Agenda (sgallagh, 16:18:00)
* Agenda Item: Greet the new members of the Server SIG (sgallagh,
* Agenda Item: Rename the weekly meetings to "Server SIG Meeting"
* Agenda Item: Status check on Fedora 21 (sgallagh, 16:18:05)
* Greet the new members of the Server SIG (sgallagh, 16:19:12)
* The Server SIG extends a warm hello to Dan Callaghan and Brandon
Vincent (sgallagh, 16:22:29)
* Candidates for Server WG are strongly encouraged to attend next
week's meeting (sgallagh, 16:23:41)
* Rename the weekly meetings to "Server SIG Meeting" (sgallagh,
* AGREED: Meeting will be renamed "Server SIG Weekly Meeting" to be
more clear that it's open to all. (sgallagh, 16:29:13)
* Status check on Fedora 21 (sgallagh, 16:29:18)
* everyone should test rc2 as much as they can once it lands.
* We hope that this will be the final release candidate (sgallagh,
* Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:36:42)
* Please poke around at http://stg.getfedora.org/ and provide feedback
to the websites team. (sgallagh, 16:37:28)
* if you have anything for server for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Final_release_announcement - feel
free to edit it (sgallagh, 16:47:45)
* Remote Logging Test Case (sgallagh, 16:48:46)
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