server September 2015

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Call for Agenda for Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-09-29)
by Stephen Gallagher 29 Sep '15

29 Sep '15

I don't have anything on the agenda for this week. I had asked Jan Lieskovsky if he wanted to give his presentation on SCAP this week, but I've received no reply. If anyone has anything they would like to discuss today, let me know. Otherwise, we'll consider the meeting canceled for this week.

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Rolekit team meeting...
by Alex G.S. 28 Sep '15

28 Sep '15

Team, Last week I returned from vacation and am currently catching up on some work related items so I wont be able to make this weeks meeting. However I'll be available next week. Also wanted to confirm the meeting time, I recall it's 2 PM UTC? Best, Alex G.S.

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Beta Announcement Highlights?
by Joe Brockmeier 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

Hey all, We're sneaking up on the beta release, and the readiness meeting is tomorrow. I need some highlights for the beta release from folks who are working on cloud, server, and workstation. Please send to me via email (e.g., here) or add to the wiki here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Beta_release_announcement Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Community Team, OSAS jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Need someone to cover the Server SIG meeting on Tuesday
by Stephen Gallagher 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

I have some all-day meetings at my day-job, so I won't be available to run the Server SIG meeting next week. Would someone mind sending out the agenda request and running the meeting?

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Agenda item proposal -- Explore the possibilities of SCAP for the benefits of Fedora Server WG (whole Fedora)
by Jan Lieskovsky 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

Hello folks, (not sure this is the expected way how to propose a new meeting agenda item for some of the future WG meetings. If not, kindly point me to the right way. Thanks). Would like to propose item -- explore the possibilities of SCAP for the benefits of Fedora Server WG Purpose of the meeting: * we would like to introduce the SCAP Security Guide project / OpenSCAP ecosystem to the WG (the set of packages we are currently working at), * issues (related with functionality provided by the WG) we see right now when developing SCAP content, * proposal for possible cooperation -- in order to be able to enhance the list of rules applicable for the Server product, we would like to: * hear Fedora Server WG expectations on the content, * share our expectations on the content && get feedback on them, * maybe set up a way for more close cooperation Our expectation is to present short slides (introduce SCAP to the WG, what's already done, what we would like to implemented yet, would like to hear your feedback on those, and areas where we need input from the WG in order to progress better / more quickly [mainly related with which tasks to prioritize etc.]). Thank you && Regards, Jan. -- Jan iankko Lieskovsky / Red Hat Security Technologies Team

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Stepping down from the working group
by Miloslav Trmač 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Hello, I’m afraid I haven’t had much time for the Server WG recently, and my activity was basically limited to attending the meetings. I would therefore like to relinquish my seat per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Governance_Charter . There are quite a few members of the community who have been greatly influencing the Fedora Server product through their work, and the formal voting seat would be better served by any one of them. Mirek

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-09-15)
by Stephen Gallagher 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-09-15) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:26 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-09-15/serversig. 2015-09-15-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:27) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:04:13) * Agenda Item: Reducing the F24 package set (sgallagh, 15:04:24) * Reducing the F24 package set (sgallagh, 15:06:12) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-September/002 035.html (sgallagh, 15:06:28) * AGREED: Remove everything from the DVD that isn't part of the default installation or optional hardware enablement (+5, 0, -1) (sgallagh, 15:58:31) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:58:35) Meeting ended at 16:00:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (103) * stefw (25) * mizmo (24) * nirik (23) * adamw (14) * simo (11) * zodbot (10) * tuanta (8) * mitr (0) * danofsatx (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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rolekit Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-09-15)
by Stephen Gallagher 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

==================================== #fedora-server: rolekit (2015-09-15) ==================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 13:01:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-server/2015-09-15/rolekitweekly .2015-09-15-13.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (sgallagh, 13:01:00) * Fedora 23 Status (sgallagh, 13:02:19) * All issues targeted for Fedora 23 Beta were fixed. (sgallagh, 13:03:34) * Current issues targeted for Fedora 23 Final have patches under review on Review Board (sgallagh, 13:04:10) * LINK: http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/r/ (sgallagh, 13:04:29) * Bug Triage (sgallagh, 13:13:25) * LINK: https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues?q=is%3Aopen+no%3Amil estone+no%3Alabel (sgallagh, 13:13:40) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/40 - Instance name should not contain "/" (sgallagh, 13:14:20) * AGREED: We will restrict instance names to [A-Za-z0-9._-] (sgallagh, 13:25:36) * AGREED: Scheduled for Fedora 23 Final (sgallagh, 13:28:12) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/45 - Put instances in error state if it is transitional while roled starts (sgallagh, 13:28:29) * AGREED: F23 Final Blocker , assigned to sgallagh (sgallagh, 13:33:07) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/46 - Use accessors for name and type in roles (sgallagh, 13:33:35) * Already fixed. Closing issue. (sgallagh, 13:40:34) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/47 - `rolectl list instances` should color-code instances (sgallagh, 13:40:56) * AGREED: F24 Alpha, nice-to-have (sgallagh, 13:44:03) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/48 - Use class name for RolekitErrors in the log (sgallagh, 13:44:25) * Already pushed upstream (sgallagh, 13:44:57) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/49 - Create backup of settings in case of role deployment fails (sgallagh, 13:45:34) * Already pushed upstream (sgallagh, 13:45:36) * https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/50 - Store last error in role instance settings (sgallagh, 13:46:17) * AGREED: F23 Final, nice-to-have (sgallagh, 13:54:50) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 13:54:53) Meeting ended at 13:58:48 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (113) * twoerner (70) * nilsph (26) * zodbot (9) * alxgrtnstrngl (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Agenda for today's Server SIG weekly meeting (2015-09-15)
by Stephen Gallagher 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

I realized this morning that we never actually came to a resolution on the plans for reducing the package set in Fedora 24[1] (it's too late to make changes for Fedora 23). The set of package groups that are installed by default for Fedora Server: * Hardware and virtualization guest support * @server-product (individual packages we've decided we need, like chrony) * @headless-management (cockpit, openssh, rolekit, tog-pegasus[3]) * @container-management (Docker) * @domain-client (realmd, freeipa-client, winbind) The complete selection of available packages[2] on the Server DVD is much larger and basically includes everything from the "Infrastructure Server" environment group on the old DVD, most of which is probably *not* useful on the install media, in my opinion. I'd like to propose that we make one of the following changes for Fedora 24: Option A) Remove everything from the DVD that isn't part of the default installation, then add back in individual options that have demonstrable value. Option B) Remove everything from the DVD that isn't part of the default installation or one of the supported rolekit roles, then add back in individual options that have demonstrable value. From the discussion on the mailing list, the most common argument was "But what about disconnected operation?", but the fact of the matter seemed to be that even with our current large (and eclectic) package set, there are still packages that some people want that aren't on the image. Since this set varies wildly between deployments, I personally don't feel that it makes sense to try to accommodate all of this on the image. Instead, I think we should be more straight-up in defining that the DVD ISO carries the Fedora Server Operating System and that add-on capabilities require a network repository (local or internet). If we go with either of these choices, I'm personally more highly in favor of Option A) than Option B). The mechanism for rolekit involves always grabbing the latest stable version of the roles from the network anyway, so carrying them on the disk is of limited use outside of the completely disconnected case. See also my original email[1] on the subject for how avoiding these on the images can also help us avoid release slippage in some situations. [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-August/001968 .html [2] https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/spin-kickstarts.git/tree/fedora-i nstall-server.ks [3] This was in place to support OpenLMI, but we're not actually doing this, so we should probably drop it.

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Fedora 23 Server Talking points
by Truong Anh Tuan 09 Sep '15

09 Sep '15

Hi, I am collecting information to put to F23 Talking points [1]. If you have any useful stuffs, please send over the mailing list or to me. Thanks, Tuan [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_talking_points#Fedora_Server

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