November 2016 - server - Fedora Mailing-Lists

[Marketing] Feedback needed on Fedora 25 announcements

by Brian Proffitt

All: To prepare for the anticipated release of Fedora 25, we have started the process of drafting the Fedora 25 release announcement and press release. The release announcement[1] needs the most input. I have based it on the Fedora 25 beta release announcement and will be going through the document today to clean up any obvious beta mentions. Members of each workgroup should focus on: * Additional features to highlight that were not in the beta announcement * Important stories that you think this announcement should be telling * Particular focus on the change from "Cloud" to "Atomic." The press release is templated from the Fedora 24 press release[2] and will be revised based on the release announcement. Therefore, the priority is on the release announcement, and feedback should be given to that document by close of business (2100 UTC) November 7, 2016. Thank you, Brian Proffitt

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 25 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!

by Adam Williamson

On Wed, 2016-11-09 at 16:02 -0800, rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org wrote: > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 25 Candidate RC-1.2 is now > available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation > testing! For more information on release validation testing, see: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan > > Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at: > https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/25 > > You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download > locations, and enter results on the Summary page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Summary > > The individual test result pages are: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Installation > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Base > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Server > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Cloud > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Desktop > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.2_Security_Lab > > All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must > pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3]. > > Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the > test list [5]. There are two changes from RC-1.1 in RC-1.2: libblockdev-1.9-8.fc25 - https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-76a96e8bf3 selinux-policy-3.13.1-224.fc25 - https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f29b746f2e those fix a couple of partitioning bugs kparal found in RC-1.1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393379 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393373 Unfortunately both packages can at least *theoretically* affect almost anything else (selinux-policy for obvious reasons, and libblockdev because anaconda uses it), so it would be good to re-run as many tests as we can with this compose. Sorry for the extra work, folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 25 Candidate RC-1.1 Available Now!

by Adam Williamson

On Wed, 2016-11-09 at 00:36 -0800, rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org wrote: > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 25 Candidate RC-1.1 is now > available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation > testing! For more information on release validation testing, see: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan > > Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at: > https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/25 > > You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download > locations, and enter results on the Summary page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Summary > > The individual test result pages are: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Installation > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Base > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Server > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Cloud > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Desktop > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_RC_1.1_Security_Lab > > All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must > pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3]. > > Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the > test list [5]. > > Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs: > http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current > > [1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-quality-tasks.html > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan > [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_RC_Release_Criteria > [4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa > [5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/ Hi folks! Sending this along to more lists, with an extra note: the Fedora 25 Go/No-Go is on Thursday - yes, tomorrow for most of the world - so we need YOU to help run all the tests! We need to fill out all of the Alpha, Beta and Final (not 'RC', as the mail says...I should fix that) tests on all the validation pages. Some particular tests that it'd be great to have people working on are the Server tests, non- English installs, and the Desktop 'menus' tests, which basically mean 'install Workstation or KDE and run every single app that's installed and make sure they all at least basically work'. If you run into any serious issues, please propose them as Final blockers, either using blockerbugs: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug or simply by marking the bug as 'Blocks: FinalBlocker' (and please add a comment with an explanation of why you think it should block release). Thanks a lot, everyone! Note, there is one bug currently accepted as a blocker which is not addressed by this compose: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1382001 but there is clearly some sentiment to drop its blocker status, so we decided to go ahead and run a compose and get it tested so if we do decide to drop that bug from the blocker list, and no other blockers appear, we can ship. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Agenda for Server SIG Meeting (2016-11-08)

by Stephen Gallagher

We need to discuss the Fedora Marketing request, since Go/No-Go for F25 is on Thursday. We can also continue our discussion on role requirements if there's time.

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Fedora Release Tools Demo (Canceled) - Written Status

by Amanda Carter

Hi folks, due to travel and various obstacles, we're not able to host a recorded demo this month. Instead we've put together a status report that includes some additional highlights we think you might be interested in. If you have feedback and/or think this works well, I'd love to know b/c I think this vehicle covers more information than a demo alone so I might do both in the future if it's worth it. Apologies for missing the actual show and tell - if there's anything you'd like to see specifically, I'm sure we can arrange something. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StatusReport#13SEP2016 -- Amanda Carter

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Cockpit 122

by Stef Walter

http://cockpit-project.org/blog/cockpit-122.html Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. We release regularly. Here are the release notes from version 122. Logging into a system via a Bastion Host ---------------------------------------- On the Cockpit login screen you can now choose an alternate host to connect to. Cockpit with use SSH to authenticate you against that host, and display the admin interface for that host. Although browsers cannot use SSH directly to connect to machines or authenticate against them, Cockpit can make this happen. Only one host needs to have Cockpit listen on port 9090 available to browsers over TLS, and other hosts can only have SSH accessible on the usual port 22. Demo: https://youtu.be/yc64DUydciI Change: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/pull/5243 Works with UDisks in addition to storaged ----------------------------------------- storaged is an actively maintained API for configuring storage on a Linux system. It is a fork of the older UDisks. storaged has additional functionality, like LVM, iSCSI and Btrfs and a large number of stability fixes. However some systems like older RHEL or Ubuntu don’t yet have storaged. Cockpit can now also use the older UDisks to configure storage on a system. A large number of features are disabled, but basic functionality is present. Change: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/pull/5264 Related: https://github.com/storaged-project/storaged/ Explicitly specify javascript dependency versions ------------------------------------------------- Cockpit’s bundles various javascript dependencies in its admin interfaces, such as Patternfly or React. In order to help packagers we’ve now explicitly specified the versions of those dependencies. And during development we pull them in using the standard Bower registry. Versions: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/blob/master/bower.json From the future --------------- Lars has worked on functionality to show the OpenSCAP security scan results for containers. This uses the usual atomic scan functionality that you see on Atomic Host. Design: http://cockpit-project.org/blog/images/image-scanning.png Change: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/pull/5259 Get it ------ You can get Cockpit here: http://cockpit-project.org/running.html Cockpit 122 is available in Fedora 25: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/cockpit-122-1.fc25 Or download the tarball here: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/releases/tag/122 Take care, Stef

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Improving Offline Updates (WAS Re: I asked Hacker News what developers want from a desktop, and this is what they said)

by Stephen Gallagher

On 10/25/2016 11:46 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:47:55AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 09:21 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >>> It sounds to me like your single-reboot work is worth continuing. We >>> don't need to support strange edge cases. >>> >> >> My remaining concern is this statement from Lennart that I haven't had an >> opportunity to understand better: >> >> "However, so far we have quite some concerns about adding this, precisely for >> the reason that it pretends to be a reset of everything to the boot-up defaults, >> but actually isn't, as a ton of runtime state is retained in /sys and /proc/sys >> and other runtime objects." >> >> I don't know what runtime state he's talking about here or whether the risk is >> greater than the advantages to avoiding an extra reboot. > > For example, writing stuff to /proc/sys is not entirely idempotent: > depending on the order, you might get slightly different results. And > of course there's no way to reset the state to kernel defaults. > If a sysctl.d file is removed, that setting will not be "undone" during > an upgrade, until after a reboot. In 99% of cases this doesn't matter. > > If we skip the reboot *before* the upgrade, that should be fine. > Skipping the reboot *after* the upgrade is probably not worth the uncertainty. > So, good news! This is in fact already possible to do today, as I just tested. The following set of commands does exactly this: ``` pkcon refresh force pkcon update --only-download pkcon offline-trigger systemctl isolate system-update.target ``` This all runs in the current boot and will trigger a reboot immediately after the update completes. All of this should be easily possible to do for Workstation within GNOME Software if we agree that's easier on the end-user. For Server, should we provide a couple scripts for simplicity? One for caching the pending updates and another to trigger the update-and-reboot? > There's also kexec: with recent kernels kexec does not work for me anymore > (graphics crash). Nevertheless, kexec is something worth considering too: > the state is reset quite thoroughly, and we avoid the potentially very > slow POST. 2.0

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2016-11-01)

by Stephen Gallagher

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 =================================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2016-11-01) =================================================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 20:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-11-01/server_work... . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 20:00:07) * Agenda (sgallagh, 20:02:37) * Agenda Item: Node.js for alternative architectures (sgallagh, 20:02:54) * Agenda Item: Common requirements for server roles (sgallagh, 20:03:08) * Node.js for alternative architectures (sgallagh, 20:04:49) * AGREED: We will add s390x to the %{nodejs_arches} macro in time for the F26 mass rebuild. We are abstaining from a decision on EPEL. (sgallagh, 20:27:39) * Common requirements for server roles (sgallagh, 20:28:01) * After much discussion, we largely agreed on "You can use either containers or bare-metal for a role, but if you choose not to containerize, you'll have to justify it strongly" (sgallagh, 21:13:00) Meeting ended at 21:15:06 UTC. Action Items - ------------ Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * sgallagh (115) * vvaldez (24) * smooge (21) * dperpeet (20) * jds2001 (20) * sharkcz (15) * zodbot (12) * langdon (12) * mhayden (9) * nirik (4) * mjwolf (3) * adamw (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Mailvelope v1.5.2 Comment: https://www.mailvelope.com wkYEAREIABAFAlgZBiUJEHolVWI2uqOjAAC8dwCglhwK2apgDPpIpiklCX1y zSgU3r8AnivMMSw2Lr7eGeMK0HQd5VF1bzQB =hpnK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Agenda for Server SIG Meeting (2016-11-01)

by Stephen Gallagher

The primary item I have on the agenda for today is discussing what minimum and mandatory requirements our roles should meet to be accepted. Anyone have other topics for this week?

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