I would like to ask Server WG to review Release blocking deliverables
for Fedora 24 release. The current list is located at .
Please let me know any discrepancies (missing images, wrong
assignment, blocking/non-blocking status, etc.) you might find there.
Thanks for your help,
Platform & Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic
#fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2016-04-26)
Meeting started by nirik at 15:07:09 UTC. The full logs are available at
* roll call (nirik, 15:07:20)
* Agenda (nirik, 15:12:29)
* voting/discussion on new member (nirik, 15:12:50)
* review deliverables list for Fedora 24 (nirik, 15:13:40)
* F24 Beta testing (nirik, 15:14:49)
* new members (nirik, 15:16:10)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Snavin (hanthana,
* AGREED: mjwolf and hanthana joining and mizmo and sgallagh
departing. (+5,0,0) (nirik, 15:43:00)
* Fedora 24 deliverables (nirik, 15:43:41)
* AGREED: deliverables list for f24 looks acceptable to Server WG
* Beta Testing (nirik, 15:53:04)
* Open Floor (nirik, 15:59:51)
Meeting ended at 16:01:41 UTC.
Action Items, by person
People Present (lines said)
* nirik (57)
* danofsatx (32)
* adamw (19)
* jds2001 (18)
* fsaez (18)
* zodbot (13)
* hanthana (11)
* mjwolf (7)
* sgallagh (6)
* mizmo (5)
* stefw (1)
* mhayden (0)
* simo (0)
15:07:09 <nirik> #startmeeting Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2016-04-26)
15:07:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 26 15:07:09 2016 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:07:15 <nirik> #chair sgallagh mizmo nirik stefw adamw simo danofsatx mhayden jds2001
15:07:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw danofsatx jds2001 mhayden mizmo nirik sgallagh simo stefw
15:07:20 <nirik> #topic roll call
15:07:30 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor
15:07:31 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx(a)gmail.com>
15:08:08 <hanthana> .fas snavin
15:08:09 <zodbot> hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' <danishka(a)gmail.com>
15:08:35 <danofsatx> Welcome, hanthana.
15:08:54 <hanthana> Thanks danofsatx
15:09:15 <mjwolf> hello
15:09:23 <fsaez> hello
15:09:56 <danofsatx> greetings mjwolf, fsaez, hanthana - glad y'all could join us today (finally ;) )
15:10:03 <nirik> morning everyone. I guess we will wait a bit and see if more folks show up...
15:10:28 <hanthana> Good morning guys (its 20.40 here ;-) )
15:10:31 <adamw> .hello adamwill
15:10:32 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam(a)redhat.com>
15:10:56 <jds2001> .hello jstanley
15:10:57 <zodbot> jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley' <jonstanley(a)gmail.com>
15:11:14 <jds2001> apologies for the tardiness, at the airport :)
15:11:34 <danofsatx> no excusese, jds2001.
15:11:47 <danofsatx> .fire jds2001 for using airports for a lame excuse
15:11:47 <zodbot> adamw fires jds2001 for using airports for a lame excuse
15:11:56 <jds2001> but i am sitting in the delta sky club having a jack and coke :D
15:12:04 <stefw> .hello stefw
15:12:05 <zodbot> stefw: stefw 'Stef Walter' <stefw(a)redhat.com>
15:12:05 <jds2001> great way to start the day :)
15:12:11 <danofsatx> oh, well, the jack makes it ok, then. ;)
15:12:14 <nirik> ha.
15:12:25 <nirik> ok, I think thats 5 now?
15:12:29 <nirik> #topic Agenda
15:12:50 <sgallagh> /me lurks
15:12:50 <nirik> #info voting/discussion on new member
15:12:56 <nirik> any other items for agenda?
15:13:02 <mizmo> i just want to put out there
15:13:07 <mizmo> that we have 3 candidates for 1 slot
15:13:17 <sgallagh> Yeah, jkurik wants the WG to review the deliverables list.
15:13:29 <nirik> #info review deliverables list
15:13:34 <mizmo> i am not going to have a lot of time for the WG moving forward, i'm going to be managing some interns coming in the next month and working full tilt on fedora hubs, so i am willing to step down to open up another slot
15:13:34 <nirik> #undo
15:13:34 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by nirik at 15:13:29 : review deliverables list
15:13:35 <sgallagh> (with some urgency, I take it)
15:13:40 <nirik> #info review deliverables list for Fedora 24
15:14:26 <adamw> beta testing
15:14:35 <nirik> mizmo: you would be missed, but if you won't have time, then I suppose it makes sense...
15:14:39 <adamw> though that probably doesn't need to be an agenda item, just 'hey folks it's go/no-go in two days, so do some beta testing'
15:14:49 <nirik> #info F24 Beta testing
15:14:58 * mizmo always happy to lurk and chime in
15:15:19 <nirik> ok, anything else agenda wise?
15:15:39 <nirik> ok, lets get started....
15:16:10 <nirik> #topic new members
15:16:33 <nirik> would those folks who are interested perhaps give us a few lines of background and what they might want to try and accomplish?
15:16:41 <nirik> and then we can discuss a bit and vote?
15:17:21 <danofsatx> to avoid stepping on toes, we'll start with fsaez, then hanthana and finish with mjwolf. acceptable?
15:17:32 <fsaez> ok
15:17:36 <mjwolf> ok
15:17:37 <nirik> sure
15:17:42 <fsaez> personally, is what I wrote in the mail, I can summarize :)
15:18:03 <fsaez> (fisrt: sorry for bad english incomming)
15:19:50 <fsaez> Well, im currently pursuing a dual degree, IT Business and Computer Science. I worked as a sysadmin in another University. Currently i am working at my university as a research assistant, in topics related to IoT. I want to use fedora server for this backend. In other hand, i want to use Fedora Server in class
15:20:18 <fsaez> Also i can collaborate on translating to Spanish
15:20:31 <fsaez> I
15:20:47 <fsaez> I want to collaborate with Fedora Server using my experiences as sysadmin, bringing new ideas to the table and getting closer the academic world to Fedora using my university as a starting point
15:22:32 <nirik> interesting. thanks. :)
15:22:41 <fsaez> With servers that I have in charge, I am preparing an ecosystem with Windows (for using AD) and power testing. In my past work as sysadmin i have installed and managed AD, Exchange, etc
15:22:58 <fsaez> Now i have finish
15:23:02 <fsaez> thanks for the oportunity
15:23:16 <fsaez> *power testing = for beta testing
15:24:10 <danofsatx> fsaez: how much longer do you have at university?
15:24:35 <fsaez> From 2013 in UAI. (I was from 2010-2012 at UTFSM)
15:25:10 <danofsatx> cuano fini?
15:25:15 <danofsatx> erm cuando even
15:25:52 <fsaez> 2017, but 2018 if I pursue a Masters
15:25:56 <danofsatx> my spanish is worse than your English ;)
15:26:11 <fsaez> Cuando terminas? this is the sentence haha
15:26:26 <danofsatx> yeah, Google eventually got me there
15:26:56 <fsaez> Spanish is an interesting language to learn :)
15:27:24 <nirik> ok, hanthana?
15:27:33 <danofsatx> can you address the OpenStack interest you mentioned in your email?
15:27:41 <danofsatx> or, we can save that for later...
15:27:49 <hanthana> I am Danishka Navin (fas: snavin), who have been contributing to Fedora since 2007 April. I am currently working as DevOps and also I have been working on a Fedora remix since 2009. It wasn't just a remix but branding and building a local community around it and did PR/marketing as well. Its runing in 9 national schools for now.
15:27:49 <hanthana> I am originally from Sri Lanka (+5.30GMT) but currently based in Singapore (+8.00GMT).
15:27:49 <hanthana> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Snavin
15:27:49 <hanthana> https://sourceforge.net/projects/hanthana/files/stats/map?dates=2009-09-1...
15:29:30 <nirik> cool. :)
15:29:32 <hanthana> I would like to work on make server images available on all cloud venders though I only work with AWS so far.
15:29:55 <hanthana> With my new job I will be working from home for 4 days and I can work more than two hours per week.
15:30:12 <nirik> oh? what advantage do you see for the server image over the existing cloud one?
15:30:23 <nirik> anyhow, mjwolf ?
15:31:30 <hanthana> i mean if someone just need to deploy LAMP server on AWS, it would be nice to have a fedora-lamp server image available
15:31:40 <mjwolf> I'm Mike Wolf. I work for IBM in the Linux Technology Center. I've been working with Fedora for the last couple years. The focus has been in the secondary arches area, specifically Power
15:31:46 <hanthana> for now we have to use binami images
15:32:44 <mjwolf> I help by getting the Fedora labs the hardware they need. I also work with universities and projects to get them access to hardware to work on projects in LInux
15:33:46 * danofsatx files that tidbit away for future use
15:33:54 <nirik> ok, cool. Any discussion/questions for folks? or shall we vote? or ?
15:33:56 <mjwolf> my focus is having complete solutions in Fedora for stacks. So we have been working with EPEL folks and gcc folks as well as kernel
15:34:22 <fsaez> danofsatx, In my old job Im installed OpenStack (on 6 servers, almost all components), which we use primarily for web pages. Now I'm waiting to arrive computers to my University to work in OpenStack (june/july) and use Fedora Server images :)
15:34:30 <mjwolf> what I want to focus on is cloud, docker and adding automated testing
15:34:52 <jds2001> docker in what way?
15:35:30 <mjwolf> make sure that docker images are available and the tooling infrastructure work well, kubernetes, flannel, etcd, golang
15:38:04 * nirik thinks this is difficult, all 3 folks are very good candidates. ;)
15:38:47 <sgallagh> .fire danofsatx
15:38:47 <zodbot> adamw fires danofsatx
15:38:52 <sgallagh> There, now there's room ;-)
15:39:02 <nirik> I guess I am +1 mjwolf, +1 hanthana, and would encourage fsaez to stay involved and look for the next open seat
15:39:20 <danofsatx> hey! I saw that!
15:39:49 <adamw> +1 mjwolf, +1 hanthana
15:40:00 <danofsatx> +1 mjwolf, +1 hanthana
15:40:08 <sgallagh> I no longer have a vote, but if I did, I would agree with nirik and adamw and danofsatx here.
15:40:10 <jds2001> +1 mjwolf +1 hanthana
15:40:22 <danofsatx> mizmo?
15:40:24 <jds2001> keep in mind that not being on the WG doesn't mean that you can't contribute :)
15:40:37 <jds2001> in fact, it's very much encouraged :D
15:40:39 <mizmo> +1 mjwolf +1 hanthana
15:41:18 <danofsatx> mhayden is at the OpenStack Summit, he won't be voting. I don't know about simo or stefw
15:41:52 <nirik> stefw was around eariler...
15:42:23 <danofsatx> we have 5 - isn't that quorum in these parts?
15:42:37 <nirik> yep.
15:42:52 <danofsatx> ok, call it then.
15:43:00 <nirik> #agreed mjwolf and hanthana joining and mizmo and sgallagh departing. (+5,0,0)
15:43:34 <nirik> fsaez: do hang around too... I think your input would be great to have. ;)
15:43:41 <nirik> #topic Fedora 24 deliverables
15:43:58 <fsaez> unanimous :( but I'll be around because I want to become known
15:44:12 <danofsatx> fsaez - please, hang out in #fedora-server. Not being a voting member does not mean we won't listen to valuable insight and imput.
15:44:23 <danofsatx> input, too.
15:44:26 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/...
15:44:37 <nirik> This is the list the program manager has.
15:44:42 <nirik> Does that look correct?
15:45:15 * jds2001 agrees with that
15:45:53 <danofsatx> are we still not blocking on ARM?
15:46:10 <jds2001> do we have the resources to block on ARM?
15:46:13 <nirik> nope, we haven't been...
15:46:27 <nirik> I guess that list looks ok to me.
15:46:30 <danofsatx> We made that decision last release due to an unrecoverable bug. We haven't revisited that decision (that I'm aware of )
15:47:19 <jds2001> danofsatx's point links back to mine :)
15:48:04 <adamw> i'm fine with it
15:48:16 <adamw> i don't think it makes sense for armhfp to be a release blocking arch for a Server os.
15:48:33 <jds2001> adamw: eventually it will though
15:48:36 <adamw> aarch64 in future? sure. armhfp? no.
15:48:51 <danofsatx> oh, yeah - that makes sense.
15:48:58 * danofsatx forgot his ARM naming scheme
15:49:15 <nirik> unless we want to make a bug push for the armv7 internet of things or something.
15:49:35 <nirik> but that would not be f24 in any case.
15:49:44 <jds2001> nirik: not for Server, i dont think.
15:50:11 <nirik> ok, sounds like we are all in agreement about the deliverables then?
15:50:13 <jds2001> though are we a proxy deliverable for the base WG now?
15:50:32 <nirik> well, the base WG doesn't really exist anymore, so it would possibly be up to us yeah...
15:50:44 <nirik> or modularity WG
15:50:47 <danofsatx> yes, deliverables as published +1
15:51:16 <danofsatx> s/deliverables/F24 Deliverables
15:51:22 <jds2001> +1 to deliverables as published for f24
15:51:43 <nirik> +1
15:52:55 <nirik> #agreed deliverables list for f24 looks acceptable to Server WG
15:53:04 <nirik> #topic Beta Testing
15:53:24 <nirik> adamw: you wanted to talk about beta testing?
15:53:29 <adamw> so yeah, in case anyone missed the memo, it's go/no-go on Thursday
15:53:46 <adamw> we do not have an rc yet because all blockers are not fixed, but we still need to get through the server validation tests:
15:53:55 <adamw> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test
15:53:58 * jds2001 has no time - heading to STL as we speak for http://www.firstchampionship.org/ :D
15:54:04 <adamw> i'm gonna be working on that today but if anyone can help it'd be very much appreciated
15:54:31 <adamw> especially, i am not currently set up to do AD testing
15:54:46 <nirik> that requires windows? or ?
15:55:12 * jds2001 keeps an
15:55:20 <jds2001> MSDN subscription for this stuff
15:55:34 <adamw> I, er, don't know.
15:55:36 <danofsatx> I have it. I'll take care of AD tests.
15:55:50 <adamw> the instructions ultimately link to http://stef.thewalter.net/2012/08/how-to-create-active-directory-domain.html for "creating an AD domain", which is 404. :P
15:55:59 <adamw> i believe you can do it with Samba, but that's the literal extent of my knowledge.
15:56:13 <adamw> so, if jds and dan can help, that would be awesome.
15:56:16 <danofsatx> heh, that's easy. I can write up a new doc along with the testing.
15:56:17 <nirik> might be nice to write up more details of how to do it. ;)
15:56:22 <nirik> danofsatx++
15:56:22 <zodbot> nirik: Karma for dmossor changed to 6 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:56:33 <adamw> current blockers are not in this stack at all, so if we do the tests and they pass they will probably hold up for Beta release, unless we have to slip.
15:56:47 <adamw> danofsatx: very much appreciated.
15:57:18 <danofsatx> actually - fsaez, you can jump in on this one, too. Do you have your Windows environment ready, or is it still in building stages?
15:57:22 <adamw> i'll notify the ML when we need testing in future
15:58:55 <nirik> cool.
15:58:59 <nirik> anything else on this topic?
15:59:51 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
15:59:56 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor?
16:00:26 <nirik> if nothing, will close out in a minute or two...
16:01:39 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone!
16:01:41 <nirik> #endmeeting
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Anyways, assuming all goes according to plan, the F24 Beta is due to
land on May 3rd, or in seven days from today. Therefore, it's time to
review and look over the release notes for the F24 Beta. The current
draft can be found on the wiki.
As of now, it is a forked version of the Alpha release announcement with
a few changes based on information I gathered from #fedora-qa. If you
could take some time to review the release notes and ensure everything
is *current* and correct since the Alpha release for areas you are
familiar and knowledgeable with, that would be appreciated so we can aim
to ship this next week.
Justin W. Flory
So we have a set of release validation tests for Fedora Server. Per the
release process, these tests have to be run for each milestone release
to be approved. Up till now, sgallagh has been doing a lot of this
testing, and I've been doing a little. sgallagh is going to have very
limited time for it going forward, and I don't think I'm going to be
able to take over all the load, so it'd be great if people could step
up to help out.
You can always find the 'current' Server release validation page at
There are image download links at the top of the page.
Every few days a new compose will become the 'current' one, and ideally
we should do as much testing as we can for each compose. But we
absolutely *need* to do the testing when we build a 'candidate' compose
that may be ready for release; I'll make sure to mail the list when
The firewall tests are automated by openQA so they're low priority for
manual testing, but unfortunately we haven't managed to automate the
other tests yet, I've been working on that for a while but it's been
slow going :/ The trickiest ones to do are the Active Directory ones, I
am not in fact set up to do those as I have no AD domain. The FreeIPA
tests are next hardest.
Tests marked 'Alpha' and 'Beta' must be done for Fedora 24 Beta to go
out. Tests marked 'Final' don't *have* to be run at Beta, but it's good
if we can.
So I know everyone's busy, but if everyone could spare an hour or two a
week to hit up the Current page and run some tests on whatever compose
is 'current' at the time, that'd be great. You can enter your results
by editing the wiki directly, or if that's not your idea of fun, you
can use my 'relval' tool, which provides a fairly simple CLI for
reporting results. Just run 'dnf install relval' then 'relval report-
results' and it will walk you through the process. relval writes the
results into the wiki page for you, so after submitting your results
you can refresh the page and see them show up.
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
We slimmed down the Server default configuration to remove some NM packages we
don't need, but we also excluded the relatively-new NetworkManager-team package
which provides support for "team" devices (a newer kind of user-space bonding
interface). This is probably worth including in the default configuration, since
a sizeable percentage of real-world servers will want to bond their network
devices together for better throughput.
If the Server WG agrees, I'll patch comps.xml.
If I'm correct we have three candidates for the open Server working group position:
We need to invite them to our next meeting so we can fill the position. I'll send out the invites, sound good?
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Hi all, I'm Felipe Saez, born in Chile, I have 24 years old and currently
pursuing a dual degree (IT Business and Computer Science) at the University
I have been a GNU / Linux user since 2003. The first distribution I used
was Red Hat 9.0 and from there I felt in love with the OS that much that I
am a promoter of GNU / Linux since that time. During my High School years,
I managed servers and promoted the use not only in the classroom but also
Between 2011 and 2015 I worked as a sysadmin at my previous university,
Universidad Técnica Federico Santa María. As part of my job there I was
always involved in servers´management and services running on top of GNU /
Linux (some Windows too, but less). I worked with and learned software like
RHEVM, Apache, MySQL, Samba, BIND, OpenStack, among others. Also I mastered
the use of GNU / Linux for networking tasks, like Proxy, DHCP, firewall,
Nowadays I am currently working at my university as a Research Assistant,
in topics related to IoT. In particular I am working in in-house and
enterprise software stacks for IoT, such as FiWare. Continuing the steps I
followed at high school, I keep promoting the use of open-source software
at the university (for projects, testing, business tools, among others).
Some of the goals I would like to accomplish (if I am selected to work at
your organisation) is to increase the use of Fedora Server on the OpenStack
platform - on which I have experience. This is key for me since this is the
platform we use at the university to create VMs for students. Also, as my
research is related to IoT and I am using the Fiware platform for this, I
would like to create FiWare components’ images in Fedora Server, which will
lead in both a better integration and rapid deployment. This also will
bring Fedora server closer to the hot topic of IoT.
Academically speaking I would like to approach people Fedora Server within
the University, to be used in the classroom, where they can make images and
deploy all type of services running on them.
In addition as a personal goal, I want to collaborate with Fedora Server
using my experiences as sysadmin, bringing new ideas to the table and
getting closer the academic world to Fedora using my university as a
I would like to mention that my native language is Spanish, so I can also
collaborate on translating Fedora Server-related stuff in such language, as
well as supporting users’ experience from Latin America.
I can meet two hours a week (and more if required and if my availability
allows it). My timezone is GMT -3:00