server April 2022

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Federa 35 Server default editor
by Peter Boy 14 Mar '23

14 Mar '23

In Fedora 34 the default editor was nano, for Workstation and also for Server. In my latest default F35 Server installation I noticed vim-default-editor was installed. Did some good soul take pity and bring vim back to us or did something go wrong with my installation? Best Peter

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Documentation update
by Peter Boy 29 Apr '22

29 Apr '22

I’ve just pushed the latest ready for review versions of the section about installation to our staging area: Fedora Server Installation Guide https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation-an-intr… Fedora Server interactive local installation https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation-interac… Fedora Server interactive remote installation guide. (VNC) https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation-interac… They are all ready for F36. If no-one objects or makes a review, they will get published in a week or. with F36 release. Peter

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Updates
by Peter Boy 28 Apr '22

28 Apr '22

I’ve just updated the Product Requirement Document on our Working Group page as decided last IRC meeting (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/docs/product-requ… wait about an hour until the pages get the updates). Additionally I’ve put a renewed and extended version of the installation guide on staging (https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation-an-intr…) Any comments very much appreciated. Peter Ceterum censeo The voting on our new members is running! This time everyone of us ==has to act==, not just passively watching and raising the hand in case of objection. PLEASE, spend the half minute to vote ad https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/67 (scroll down and add a comment with your vote)

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How to cast vote on Server WG membership
by John W. Himpel 21 Apr '22

21 Apr '22

I am a neophyte to pagure. I have managed to signon and see the list of issues. Issue #67 talking about Evaluating Fedora Server Working Group. Is that where I cast my vote to approve/disapprove of membership changes? Or will there be a separate ticket for each individual being proposed for a change in membership? If that is the proper place, do I just put +1/0/-1 in a comment?

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Voting about new members open
by Peter Boy 21 Apr '22

21 Apr '22

According to our 2022-04-20 IRC meeting I start the voting to enroll as new members of the Server Working Group (listed by surname): Jason Beard (cooltshirtguy) Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) Stephen Daley (mowest) Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) You can either vote for all four in one go by issuing [+1|0|-1] or by differentiating in the order of the list [+1|0|-1 / +1|0|-1 / +1|0|-1/ +1|0|-1] As an example, if you vote to accept all four in one go, issue just +1 If you want to differentiate +1 / +1 / +1 / +1 You vote by adding a comment with just your vote (and nothing else added) to the ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/67 You need to be logged in with your FAS account. Voting start now and is open until Thursday May 5, 0500 UTC according to our rules. To accept we need at least three +1 and zero -1 Let's start. (It's the first time we vote since out reestablishment last year)

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Short info about today's IRC meeting (2022-04-20)
by Peter Boy 20 Apr '22

20 Apr '22

For everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our IRC meeting today right here. For greater details see meetbot == Summary: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-server/fedora-server.2022-04… == Full log: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-server/fedora-server.2022-04… https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-04-20/fedora-server.2… Topics discussed: === Follow up actions === DONE: withdrew Ben Williams from the list of approved members as he had wanted. Many thanks for his contributions. DONE: Opened a discussion about Cockpit and the file-sharing update follow ups on mailing list. DONE: Opened a discussion thread about a specification for a Server Edition VM on mailing list. === Planning for Fedora 37: Introducing a Server VM KVM virtual disk image === https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/79 Agreed: WG decides to add a Fedora Server Edition VM image and to make a corresponding Change proposal. Action: pboy creates a change proposal to add a Fedora Server Edition VM image Agreed: WG decides to amend the PRD as proposed in ticket 83 Action: pboy edits the PRD to amend as in issue #83 and initializes the required processing === Evaluating Fedora Server Working Group === https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/67 Agreed: WG agrees to open a voting on the admision of cooltshirtguy, dcavalca, eseyman and mowest in one go. Action: pboy start a voting the admision of cooltshirtguy, dcavalca, eseyman and mowest in one go. Agreed: WG agrees to withdraw nb and mhoungbo for the time being (#67). Many thanks to both of them for their willingness to work on the Server WG. Action: Withdrawal of nb and mhoungbo from member list. === Discussion of a potential change to Fedora surrounding the default hostname === Agreed: salimma and Eighth_Doctor work with Dusty and probably others to explore the possibilities to get the old behaviour (pre f33) back. === Current discussion about withdrawal of BIOS boot for new installations in F37 === There was a longer discussion about the subject. And the largely unanimous position was that we still need bios boot for a longer time for various reasons. Everything must be done to find a technical solution that makes this possible under the condition of available resources. Agreed: Davide Cavalca and Michel Alexandre Salim volunteer to work further on the subject.

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 20 Apr '22

20 Apr '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2022-04-20 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10245/

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Cockpit 267, c-machines 266, c-podman 46 released
by Martin Pitt 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. We release regularly. Here are the release notes: https://cockpit-project.org/blog/cockpit-267.html Summary: - FIPS crypto policy support - Machines: Redesign VM creation - Machines: Remove static hosts from virtual network’ You can get Cockpit here: http://cockpit-project.org/running.html The new releases are available in Fedora 35 and 36. Cockpit: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-9da2abe257 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-70c1d3d182 Cockpit-machines: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-6112b9e895 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-adfdc882ed Cockpit-podman: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-2b1c3acae0 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-10fba0b7f9 Or download the tarballs here: https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/releases/tag/267 https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit-machines/releases/tag/266 https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit-podman/releases/tag/46 Take care, Martin Pitt

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First experiences with beta candidate 1.2
by Peter Boy 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

I did some testing with beta-1.1 candidate Installation Went fine. /etc/resolv.conf a link again, no SELinux ACV messages with first boot any more. Cockpit The „Applications“ menu item still doesn’t list any installable applications The list of installed applications doesn’t contain cockpit-filesharing update. Question is: is that expected or a bug? @Matthew: When you select File Sharing you get a message "Failed to load NFS services. Is NFS installed or enabled?" (NFS) and "Samba must be configured to include registry. Add `include = registry` to the [global] section of /etc/samba/smb.conf“ (Samba) Is that intended behaviour or should the rpm install do those adaptations? And we are still missing localisation for cockpit-filesharing update Virtualization Installs flawlessly. The combo of qemu-kvm-core, libvirt, and virt-install now installs 104 packages on a fresh install, instead of 165 with beta 1.1 candidate. Either we will miss something or someone did a great job in housekeeping. Split name resolution doesn’t work for the libvirt internal network. I’ve to inspect that issue further. Possibly the configuration is still deficient (and not any of the apps). postgresql installed flawless Best Peter

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Call for agenda Items on 2022-04-20 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

The meeting will take place =========================================================== Fedora Server IRC meeting Wednesday, April 20 17:00 ==UTC== irc.libera.chat #fedora-meeting =========================================================== Please, check your local time using "date -d ‚2022-04-20 17:00UTC‘" The agenda is quite extensive. I added a proposal for most topics hoping to keep the discussion as strongly topic-centered as possible. Maybe that way we can focus the discussion to get everything done in time without sacrificing anything. == Agenda == https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting 1. = Follow up actions = 2. = Discussion of a potential change to Fedora surrounding the default hostname = We have currently no issue for this topic. I welcome Dusty Mabe who asked for it. 3. = Planning for Fedora 37: Introducing a Server VM KVM virtual disk image = #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/79 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/53 (additional details) #proposed WG decides to add a Fedora Server Edition VM image and to make a corresponding Change proposal according #79 and #53 Please add your options as comment to the ticket #79! 4. = Followup: Supplement to our Product requirements Document (PRD) = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/83 #proposed WG decides to amend the PRD as proposed in ticket 83. pboy edits the PRD and initializes the required processing Please add your options as comment to ticket #83! 5. = Evaluating Fedora Server Working Group = #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/67 #proposed WG agrees to open a voting on the admision of cooltshirtguy, dcavalca, eseyman and mowest. Please add your options or additional candidates as comment to ticket #67! 6. = Current discussion about withdrawal of BIOS boot for new installations in F37 = We have currently no ticket about this #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… #proposed Server WG rejects the Change proposal in its current form. This would practically force Server users to switch to another distribution. #proposed A constructive solution to reduce the burden on maintainers must fully and unrestrictedly support the bios boot option for the next expected 5-8 years (release blocker). 7. = Open floor = For any additions or changes, please reply to this email.

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A gentle reminder: Fedora Upgrade test day today
by Peter Boy 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

Just a gentle reminder: We agreed to join the test day today and test the upgrade path with some of our individual reals worlds configurations (in a test setting, probably. :-) ) I’m on IRC at least most of the day. Links: Testday upgrade Form: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/135 Test instructions: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_dnf_current_server Remember: We have to test dnf current ( 35->36) and dnf previous (34->36) Happy testing!

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Short info about last IRC meeting (2022-04--06)
by Peter Boy 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

For everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our IRC meeting right here. A bit late, but hopefully not too late. For greater details see meetbot == Summary: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-server/fedora-server.2022-04… == Full log: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-server/fedora-server.2022-04… Topics discussed: === Follow up actions === DONE: pboy and sgallagh resolved the installation issue with virtualization (#80). === Fedora 36 tests === * <cooltshirtguy> takes over testing AD from <sgallagh> for the F36 test cycle * <eseyman> still testing OpenLDAP * <pboy> No issues found with libcirt / postgreSQL / java / Tomcat * <jwhimpel> The migration to the "next generation" of ansible seems to be working fine. * AGREED: WG will join the Upgrade test day Thursday, April 14. === Cockpit file-sharing update Change Proposal follow up === * Will close issue [#73] as completed and done * <sgallagh> has it on his (long) backlog to add the Cockpit Application stuff to the file-sharing * ACTION: We open a discussion thread about file-sharing update followup actions on mailing list (DONE: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… === Planning Fedora 37 === * AGREED: We will dedicate a topic about Change Proposal about withdrawel of bios boot for F37. * ACTION: We will open a discussion thread about comment https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/79#comment-790978 about a specification for a Server Edition VM (DONE: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… )

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Our working project 4: "Facilitated and improved support for Fedora Server Edition VMs"
by Peter Boy 12 Apr '22

12 Apr '22

As discussed at our last IRC meeting, I think we are most of the way there. We have significantly expanded the documentation and created documentation for many possible alternatives to creating a VM, combining short explanations with copy&paste ready instructions. The current state is available at https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/server-virtualizatio… We have a beta for a Fedora Server Edition VM image that actually resembles a Fedora Server Edition installation (in a VM) as our current installation media allows. Such a VM is much more comfortable, speeds up and simplifies the installation very much. A draft of a documentation, although not yet complete in all parts, is available at https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-vm-in…. A draft description of how to use ImageFactory can be found at https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/server-tutorials/. The VM image is available for testing at https://pboy.fedorapeople.org/fedora-server-vm-full-35.qcow2. Any comments and testing results please as answer to this email or as comment to https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/53 We should aim to publish the docs along with Fedora 36, currently planned for next week. So any review of the doc very much appreciated. The mv image should become part of F37. Best Peter

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by migo eldorado 08 Apr '22

08 Apr '22

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Call for agenda items on 2022-04-06 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy 04 Apr '22

04 Apr '22

The meeting will take place =========================================================== Fedora Server IRC meeting Wednesday, April 06 17:00 ==UTC== irc.libera.chat #fedora-meeting =========================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2022-04-06 17:00UTC' So far we have according to our plannings the following == Agenda == https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting 1. = Follow up actions = 2. = Fedora 36 tests = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/64 Goal: Assess the manual tests that are scheduled 3. = Cockpit file-sharing update Change Proposal follow up = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/73 Goal: Determine further actions and requirements 4. = Planning Fedora 37 = https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/79 Goal: final determination of improvements Please add your options as comment to the ticket! 4. = Open floor = Please, add topics as deemed useful!

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Fedora 36 validation testing event: let's do full testing of Fedora 36 Branched 20220401.n.0
by Adam Williamson 01 Apr '22

01 Apr '22

Hi folks! Trying something a bit new here. I've nominated today's Fedora 36 nightly compose for validation testing. We do this regularly in any case, but I'm sending this out to a wider group and asking folks to treat this nightly as it it were a release candidate, and try to complete the *full* set of Final validation tests on it. The idea is to try and make sure we get all the tests done well ahead of the Go/No-Go Meeting, so we can identify any remaining blocker bugs *now*, not have to try and deal with them in a hurry later. Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/testcase_stats/36 . You can use this to prioritize tests that have not yet been run at all. You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download locations, and enter results on the Summary page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… The individual test result pages are: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0… The goal is to try and hit every test marked as Basic, Beta or Final (hitting the Optional ones too is great but not required). It'd be particularly good to cover things that often don't get done until late - aarch64 tests, Cloud tests in real clouds, and the full set of Server Active Directory tests, for instance. If you hit a significant failure in a test, please file a bug, and most likely propose it as a release blocker using https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug . If you have any questions or need any help with testing or reporting results, please contact us on the test@ list or the QA IRC/Matrix channel (#fedora-qa on IRC, "Fedora QA (Quality Assurance)" on Matrix). Thanks a lot, folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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