server October 2024

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HTTP Apache Web Server issue and bug unprocessed report
by Peter Boy 12 Jan '25

12 Jan '25

Hi folks, We have a serious issue with the current Apache httpd package, which is an indispensable service for a server these days. The issue is basically the default configuration as provided by the package: - if you create just one server in den .conf directory, it results in a non-functional https configuration - the configuration uses items, that are deprecated since version 2.4 - the default layout of the default configuration is currently not suitable I wrote a bug report about it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258121 Unfortunately we are experiencing a common Fedora problem, nobody responds to it and the bug reports are left unprocessed and pile up. And because none of the maintainers respond at all, we have now also missed all the deadlines for improving something for f40. Technically an improvement is more than simple. It’s just a change in the configuration files, as far as I see. Any idea how to proceed with this? - Would someone take the bug report and check my analyses? - Is there any way to bring this forward? - Should we create a new https-server package which takes the binaries and provides an alternative configuration? Probably similar to default-editor-vim / default-editor-nano? As it currently stands, we are in no way competitive with, for example, Debian or ArchLinux. -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Proposal: Changes to Fedora Server default partitioning scheme
by Stephen Gallagher 13 Dec '24

13 Dec '24

The following proposal comes out of the discussion at this weeks Server SIG meeting[1] Fedora Server will have: * / (root) will be a minimum of 2 GiB and a maximum of 15 GiB * SWAP will continue to be calculated automatically based on available RAM on the system * All unused space will be assigned to a volume group and available to be assigned to new partitions or extend existing partitions. * Anaconda will continue to handle the appropriate EFI and /boot settings We also discussed during the meeting whether we should have a separate /var partition by default, but the general sense was that we might be better served by developing a mechanism to allow partitions to be split from existing mount points, which would be more flexible going forward. As we did not have quorum in the meeting by the point we got to this proposal, I'm taking it to the list for discussion and votes. For the record, the current behavior of the partitioning scheme is for / to be given up to 50 GiB of space and then any remaining space after that is assigned to a separate /home partition. [1] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-03-15/serversig.201…

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Re: Improving our release testing efforts – Attempting to summarize our discussion
by Peter Boy Uni 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Now another attempt at a summary What to manually test ===================== A) regular QA tests ------------------ 1. "Default boot and install“ tests on „USB“ and optimally „DVD“ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Currently it is divided into 2 tests: DVD (or local) and Netboot But we have 4 ways per boot procedure - local interactive - local remote (via VNC) - local automatic (via key file on OEMDRV USB) - remote automatic How do we want to deal with this? There are some tests about Anaconda and VNC automatically. Do they work on hardware? 2. Additionally: running the install test with arm-imange-installer There should already be a topic for this anywhere. 3. IPA Tests: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_freeipa_replication_advanced B) Specific server-related special cases ———————————————————— 1. "maybe we should test more storage operations post-install“ Integral part of our installation during post-installation is the expansion / addition of LVs We may review the current tests regarding Custom storage configuration when we discuss to expand the current server related release criteria. 2. Another topic may be Virtualization, where we adopt a functioning internal network (virbr0) for internally protected communication and services such as database and IPA and including internal DNS (split DNS via systems-resolved, currently doesn’t work anyway). We should postpone this for our discussion about adding server specific services according to our updated technical specifications. C) Possible effects of individual changes specifically on Server "A domain-specific review of the changes is a good idea“ Changeset available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/{relnum}/ChangeSet <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/%7Brelnum%7D/ChangeSet> We should manage this with a tracking issue for each new release. How to organize manual testing ============================== 1. In the medium term, the current server-specific page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_41_RC_1.3_Server should be supplemented and tailored more clearly to servers. a) The download list filtered by Server b) The subtitle „Key“ might be better expressed by „Examples how to fill in the results“ c) The section „Test Matrix“ should expanded by a table of links to the manual test cases that are Server related (currently it can be misinterpreted as „everything is done“ (by coconut). 2. In the medium term we should introduce a „test week“. That would include the manual tests and the review of the docs. (As an example see coreos test week). -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Agenda Items on 2024-10-30 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Oct 30 17:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2024-10-30 17:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. LVM2 default configuration change !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 There seem still to be some open questions. 10 mins === 3. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service === !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 Current status and how to proceed 30 mins === 4. Looking back at Testing Release 41 !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/144 How did it go? 10 mins === 5. Current membership status and clean up process No tracking issue yet 10 mins === 6. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending Topics for Follow-Up Meetings ===== === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 === Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment === link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110 === Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63 -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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kea dhcp ?
by Subhendu Ghosh 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

Hi I was wondering if anyone was taking up the need to package KEA dhcp server from ISC now that isc-dhcpd is EOL? -subhendu

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 29 Oct '24

29 Oct '24

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2024-10-30 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At not(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group The meeting will be held on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10710/

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Documentation update to F41
by Peter Boy Uni 28 Oct '24

28 Oct '24

Folks, I just updated some of our documentation to F41 in staging: (!) Startpage https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/ Installation Overview https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/ (!) Interactive local installation https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/interac… (!) Interactive remote installation https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/interac… (!) Exkurs: Configuring a software RAID upon interactive installation (new) https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/sw-raid… Post Installation Tasks https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/postins… Virtualisation Overview https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization/ Adding Virtualization Support https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization/insta… Installing the Fedora Server Edition as a virtual machine using Cockpit https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization/vm-in… The docs marked with an exclamation sign are the most important to review, I think. Would be nice if you could review and proofread at least those most important docs. I would like to publish these tomorrow when Fedora F41 got published. Please coordinate here who is takes care of which doc. Best Peter -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Fedora Server user poll status
by Peter Boy Uni 23 Oct '24

23 Oct '24

A short summary of the current status as of October 23, 2034 We agreed upon a release candidate for the poll https://mowest.limesurvey.net/778249 The only remaining question is about question "How are you using Fedora Server?“ Do we want do add a option „other“ and if, with or without an open answer possibility? Without the “other” option, we avoid fragmenting the answers, where we may have many answers but only a few per option, which limits the statistical significance. With the “other” option, we may discover usage scenarios that we haven't even thought of yet (if we include a open text field). Please leave your preference here in a reply. Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Agenda Items on 2024-10-23 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 23 Oct '24

23 Oct '24

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Oct 23 17:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2024-10-23 17:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Testing Release 41 !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/144 Please comment on and add proposals to !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… Meanwhile, it's no longer so much about f41 in particular. But we finally need to define how we want to proceed systematically in the future. 30 mins === 3. Server user poll !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/145 Probably final version https://mowest.limesurvey.net/778249?lang=en On mailing list: !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… 15 mins === 4. LVM2 default configuration change !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 There seem still to be some open questions. 10 mins === 5. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service === !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 10 mins === 6. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending Topics for Follow-Up Meetings ===== === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 === Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment === link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110 === Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63 — Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2024-10-23 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At not(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group The meeting will be held on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10710/

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