server November 2024

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Proposal: Changes to Fedora Server default partitioning scheme
by Stephen Gallagher 13 Dec '24

13 Dec '24

The following proposal comes out of the discussion at this weeks Server SIG meeting[1] Fedora Server will have: * / (root) will be a minimum of 2 GiB and a maximum of 15 GiB * SWAP will continue to be calculated automatically based on available RAM on the system * All unused space will be assigned to a volume group and available to be assigned to new partitions or extend existing partitions. * Anaconda will continue to handle the appropriate EFI and /boot settings We also discussed during the meeting whether we should have a separate /var partition by default, but the general sense was that we might be better served by developing a mechanism to allow partitions to be split from existing mount points, which would be more flexible going forward. As we did not have quorum in the meeting by the point we got to this proposal, I'm taking it to the list for discussion and votes. For the record, the current behavior of the partitioning scheme is for / to be given up to 50 GiB of space and then any remaining space after that is assigned to a separate /home partition. [1] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-03-15/serversig.201…

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Current state of our user survey
by Peter Boy Uni 30 Nov '24

30 Nov '24

Folks! At our last meeting, we decided to launch our user survey on December 10 and to let it run until February 18. We thus take into account the low level of attention over Christmas and the turn of the year, and also the chance to increase attention through FOSDEM on February 1 and 2. Thanks to @mowest and @jwf, the survey is already available in the Fedora lime survey space. https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/fedora-server-f41 Now the 'clock is ticking'. I ask everyone to check whether it corresponds to the draft, whether there are still errors to be corrected, or whether something should be added. We have to make a final decision at our meeting next Wednesday, December 4. @mowest: JWF suggested that we use a ticket to contact the design team about a poster. Please, could you as our poll specialist as well as design expert, take this into your proven hands? (See my Matrix post in Server room) Best Peter Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 26 Nov '24

26 Nov '24

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2024-11-27 from 19:00:00 to 20:00:00 Europe/Berlin At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10874/

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Short info about our November 20 meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

Again, for everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our IRC meeting right here. == Essentials == AGREED pboy writes the draft of a document that describes our test strategy. We will discuss the draft on mailing list before we decide on one if the next meetings. For details see: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Agenda Items on 2024-11-20 18:00 ==UTC== meeting (today)
by Peter Boy Uni 20 Nov '24

20 Nov '24

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Nov 20 18:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2024-11-20 17:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Server user poll !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/145 !link https://mowest.limesurvey.net/778249?lang=en Next activities: - Transfer final draft to Fedora limesurvey space - Preparation of the announcement and advertising === 3. Future release testing procedures !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/144 !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… We have still to decide about our future release testing procedures === 4. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service === !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 Current status and how to proceed === 5. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending Topics for Follow-Up Meetings ===== === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 === Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment === link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110 === Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63 -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 19 Nov '24

19 Nov '24

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2024-11-20 from 19:00:00 to 20:00:00 Europe/Berlin At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10874/

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Re: Improving our release testing efforts – Attempting to summarize our discussion
by Peter Boy Uni 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Now another attempt at a summary What to manually test ===================== A) regular QA tests ------------------ 1. "Default boot and install“ tests on „USB“ and optimally „DVD“ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Currently it is divided into 2 tests: DVD (or local) and Netboot But we have 4 ways per boot procedure - local interactive - local remote (via VNC) - local automatic (via key file on OEMDRV USB) - remote automatic How do we want to deal with this? There are some tests about Anaconda and VNC automatically. Do they work on hardware? 2. Additionally: running the install test with arm-imange-installer There should already be a topic for this anywhere. 3. IPA Tests: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_freeipa_replication_advanced B) Specific server-related special cases ———————————————————— 1. "maybe we should test more storage operations post-install“ Integral part of our installation during post-installation is the expansion / addition of LVs We may review the current tests regarding Custom storage configuration when we discuss to expand the current server related release criteria. 2. Another topic may be Virtualization, where we adopt a functioning internal network (virbr0) for internally protected communication and services such as database and IPA and including internal DNS (split DNS via systems-resolved, currently doesn’t work anyway). We should postpone this for our discussion about adding server specific services according to our updated technical specifications. C) Possible effects of individual changes specifically on Server "A domain-specific review of the changes is a good idea“ Changeset available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/{relnum}/ChangeSet <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/%7Brelnum%7D/ChangeSet> We should manage this with a tracking issue for each new release. How to organize manual testing ============================== 1. In the medium term, the current server-specific page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_41_RC_1.3_Server should be supplemented and tailored more clearly to servers. a) The download list filtered by Server b) The subtitle „Key“ might be better expressed by „Examples how to fill in the results“ c) The section „Test Matrix“ should expanded by a table of links to the manual test cases that are Server related (currently it can be misinterpreted as „everything is done“ (by coconut). 2. In the medium term we should introduce a „test week“. That would include the manual tests and the review of the docs. (As an example see coreos test week). -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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PostgreSQL – is our automatic testing sufficient?
by Peter Boy Uni 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

There is an issue with Postgresql when updating to F41. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org… PostgreSQL is one of our two central services that are tested automatically. And as far as I know we did miss the above issue. There is no release note entry either. How could this happen? Do we need to extend the PostgreSQL tests? Or have I missed something? -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Agenda Items on 2024-11-13 18:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 12 Nov '24

12 Nov '24

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Nov 13 18:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2024-11-13 18:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Fedora Server Edition user poll !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/145 10 mins Current status report === 3. Looking back at Testing Release 41 !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/144 20 mins Discussion https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… Goal: Deciding about a final plan for future (manual) testing. === 4. PostgreSQL – is our automatic testing sufficient? No tracking issue yet 15 mins !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org… Goal: Do we have to refine our automatic postgresql testing? === 5. Our work program 2024/2025 Various open issues (a) Work Project: Fedora Server on (ARM) SBC !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/108 (b) Work Project: Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110 15 mins Goal: How do we want to proceed? === 5. Open Floor No tracking issue For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending Topics for Follow-Up Meetings ===== === Move Server_KVM image build to Kiwi !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/146 === Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63 === Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service === !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 12 Nov '24

12 Nov '24

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2024-11-13 from 19:00:00 to 20:00:00 Europe/Berlin At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10874/

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