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2025-03-31 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 42 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 29 Mar '25

29 Mar '25

# F42 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2025-03-31 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for a Fedora 42 blocker review meeting! We have 4 proposed blockers and 2 proposed freeze exceptions for Final. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+41+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F42 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Agenda Items on 2025-03-26 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 26 Mar '25

26 Mar '25

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Mar 26 17:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2025-03-26 17:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Bug: Fedora 42: Server boot aarch64 image exceeds maximum size No tracking issue yet !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2352679 10 mins max === 3. Status /progress Beta Testing No tracking issue yet link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… 20 mins max === 4. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 30 mins max === 5. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 25 Mar '25

25 Mar '25

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2025-03-26 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10877/

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Oversize F42 aarch64 netinst image
by Adam Williamson 25 Mar '25

25 Mar '25

Hi folks! Sorry I missed the meeting last week. Just wanted to kick off a mailing list topic for this. As briefly discussed at the meeting, the aarch64 server netinst image is over its 'maximum size', and this is a release-blocking bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2352679 we can either try and figure out why it got bigger and squish it back down again, or just bump the policy maximum size. We're generally more relaxed about maximum sizes these days since they're not so tied to optical media any more and USB sticks are plentiful and cheap. The current policy max is 1GB, and I don't remember the last time I saw a 1GB USB stick, so bumping to say 2GB probably wouldn't cause any *practical* issues. Still, it's nice to have these maximums so we catch any cases where images are unnecessarily getting bigger. I do have a process for figuring out what's taking up space on an image and I'll try to run through that and post results on the bug later. These days, it *usually* turns out to be linux-firmware getting bigger; various OEMs are constantly dumping large blobs into linux-firmware these days, something we can do little about :/ -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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2025-03-24 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 42 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 22 Mar '25

22 Mar '25

# F42 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2025-03-24 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for a Fedora 42 blocker review meeting! We have 3 proposed blockers and 1 proposed freeze exception for Final. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+41+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F42 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Agenda Items on 2025-03-19 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 19 Mar '25

19 Mar '25

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Mar 19 17:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2025-03-19 17:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 30 mins max === 3. Organisation of Beta Testing No tracking issue yet link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… === 4. Bug: Fedora 42: Server boot aarch64 image exceeds maximum size No tracking issue yet !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2352679 === 5. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending Topics for Follow-Up Meetings ===== === Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment === link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110 === Future release testing procedures !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/144 === Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63 === Work program and goals No Issue yet === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 === Proposal: Fedora Server Edition - homelab spin-off No tracking issue yet Proposal draft !link https://hackmd.io/@pboy/rJBhZYktye — Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 18 Mar '25

18 Mar '25

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2025-03-19 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10877/

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2025-03-17 @ **16:00** UTC - Fedora 42 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 15 Mar '25

15 Mar '25

# F42 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2025-03-17 # Time: **16:00** UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for a Fedora 42 blocker review meeting! We have 5 proposed blockers for Final. Note that as clocks went forward in North America recently, the meeting is now at 1600 UTC. If you changed your clocks recently, the meeting will be at the same local time as before. If you didn't, the meeting will be an hour earlier in your local time. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+41+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F42 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Agenda Items on 2025-03-12 18:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy Uni 12 Mar '25

12 Mar '25

The upcoming meeting will be held on ========================================================================== Fedora Server MATRIX meeting Wednesday, Mar 12 18:00 ==UTC== https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=cha… ========================================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2025-03-12 18:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. To recap our discussion on last meeting see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/ === 1. Follow up actions and announcements === === 2. Scheduled Server podcast for March 11 No tracking issue yet The planned broadcast date had to be canceled. We now have the opportunity to plan further details. === 3. Cockpit self-signed certificates change No tracking issue yet link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… === 4. How can we achieve progress with our Ansible Support No tracking issue yet Open discussion === 5. Open Floor For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress ===== Pending Topics for Follow-Up Meetings ===== === Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment === link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110 === Future release testing procedures !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/144 === Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63 === Work program and goals No Issue yet === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 === Proposal: Fedora Server Edition - homelab spin-off No tracking issue yet Proposal draft !link https://hackmd.io/@pboy/rJBhZYktye — Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 11 Mar '25

11 Mar '25

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2025-03-12 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10877/

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RFC: weaning off cockpit web console from self-signed certificates
by Martin Pitt 11 Mar '25

11 Mar '25

Attention: Please don't respond to this mail, but to the GitHub discussion mentioned below. Hello all, the Cockpit team is currently investigating a redesign of Cockpit's web server, which becomes slowly but surely more pressing. See [1] for details if you are interested. A very interesting possibility is to replace much of it with a web service worker [2], which would allow us to make the architecture dramatically simpler, more robust, and more secure (see prototype[3]). The main concern with this approach is that web service workers don't work with unknown TLS certificates ("secure context"), in particular for the self-signed certificates that cockpit creates on startup if you didn't supply your own. I. e. they don't support the usual TOFU model with "click here to accept this unknown certificate anyway" that browsers show for "normal" web pages in this case. So I would like to do a little survey and request for comments about deprecating or changing the handling of self-signed TLS certs in Cockpit. This is an annoyingly hard problem: On one hand we really want to build a world where TLS works and your services are trustworthy (*especially* if you are typing in your root password as the next thing!), but for many home or even small business situations even LetsEncrypt etc. is impractical/impossible (no DNS, etc.). My questions: * Are you currently accessing Cockpit with the builtin fallback self-signed certificate? * If so, would you have a better option like getting a proper cert, or joining the machine to a FreeIPA domain (which requests a valid cert from the IPA server), or running Cockpit behind a reverse proxy which already has a proper certificate? Or using the Cockpit Client flatpak? If any of these don't work for you, can you describe your situation? * If the above isn't possible, could you live with running the cockpit web server on a machine which has proper TLS setup, and connect to your target machines with SSH? * As last resort, Cockpit could show an error page (after accepting the invalid certificate in the browser) which explains the situation and offers you to download the CA certificate for importing into your browser as trusted CA. This includes the case that the default self-signed certificate is not valid for the hostname you are using to connect to cockpit (i.e. not "localhost" or the server's unqualified host name) - then you need to regenerate the certificate with the additional name. This could then be used to actually establish some trust to the certificate, by something like `ssh remote cockpit-show-cert` which would show you the fingerprint or similar -- then you have something actually meaningful to check in the browser. Would that be acceptable for you? * Are you working on a different web-based project and already have some experience with handling proper certificates? Notes: * This only affects remote connections -- if you connect to your own machine on http://localhost:9090, you can use unencrypted HTTP and service workers are fine. * We are aware of and use `sscg` if it's installed (cockpkit-ws.rpm Recommends: it). We can change the non-sscg fallback to also create a separate CA and cert, instead of the single self-signed cert. So that's not a problem, just a bit of work. Please respond on https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/discussions/21695 to keep the responses in one place -- this annoucement goes to several mailing lists. Thank you! Martin [1] https://issues.redhat.com/projects/COCKPIT/issues/COCKPIT-1238 [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Web/API/Service_Worker_API [3] https://issues.redhat.com/browse/COCKPIT-1240

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2025-03-10 @ **16:00** UTC - Fedora 42 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 09 Mar '25

09 Mar '25

# F42 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2025-03-10 # Time: **16:00** UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for a Fedora 42 blocker review meeting! We have 4 proposed blockers and 3 proposed freeze exceptions for Beta, and 2 proposed blockers for Final. Note that as clocks went forward in North America this weekend, the meeting is now at 1600 UTC. If you changed your clocks this weekend, the meeting will be at the same local time as before. If you didn't, the meeting will be an hour earlier in your local time. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+41+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F42 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 04 Mar '25

04 Mar '25

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2025-03-05 from 19:00:00 to 20:00:00 Europe/Berlin At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10971/

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2025-03-03 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 42 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 02 Mar '25

02 Mar '25

# F42 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2025-03-03 # Time: 17:00 UTC # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.… Hi folks! It's time for a Fedora 42 blocker review meeting! We have 2 proposed blockers and 4 proposed freeze exceptions for Beta, and 1 proposed blocker for Final. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+41+Blocker… The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing. If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F42 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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