Agree with the points made. Making the links to the iso and other pages
(wiki, docs etc.) clear and easy to find should be the major priority. I'm
with the others that I've used linux a lot over the years, downloaded a ton
of distros to try out, and I don't remember any of their websites (with the
exception of Manjaro, but only because that made my homepage in Firefox the
Manjaro page and I never got round to changing it).
In terms of information about Fedora Server, I think all we need to aim for
is a small overview of why Fedora Server is a good product to try out. My
feeling is that most people who are going to run a server already are
pretty literate with the basics of linux and don't need their hand held.
Thus, the information on why to use Fedora server here
would make sense to
include. This sells the product to experienced people pretty well and I
think is accessible enough to people with a smallish background in servers
to get them interested.
I don't know if we need much more than this, and there is a case to be made
for having all this on one page.
@pboy: I can see the desire to have the contact information, how to get
involved, and the user story but I wonder whether this isn't information
that's already available elsewhere and makes more sense where it is.
There's already contact information on the server site. Putting it up in
multiple places simply means more places to update, and consequently more
places to *forget* when we update and a bigger chance of outdated and
conflicting information. Also, with the user story, perhaps the 'new to
Fedora' idea is going to be handled elsewhere on the website after the
upgrade. I understood from Máirín's proposal that this was the beginning
point of her F-model. I don't know how many people are going to use Fedora
server without first knowing Fedora generally, but at least some of this
can be covered by (a) the 'why Fedora' stuff linked above; and (b) a more
prominent presence in existing Fedora locations (e.g. the magazine).
TL;DR of the above: good ides, but haven't we already got places where this
information is? If so, we should consider the benefits of putting them
somewhere new before replicating them, or moving them to a new place.
All the best,
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 05:12, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 01:49:09AM +0200, David Kaufmann wrote:
> This escalated a bit more than planned, and most of it doesn't concern
anyway, but maybe this is useful nonetheless.
Yeah, I think it's definitely useful. What I'm hearing is:
* sysadmin / ops folks looking for Fedora Server are probably going to most
appreciate a no-nonsense approach to getting images and getting working,
without a bunch of apparent marketing fluff.
As a former sysadmin, this definitely makes sense. I do think we need some
place to clearly articulate "why Fedora Server?" — including, I think, how
to get involved in this SIG to make a difference.
I'm quoting out of order here, but:
> Everyone I know who uses fedora has gotten a recommendation from a
> colleague and a short verbal explanation already on how to replace an
> operating system and where to get the necessary files, usually then also
> assistance for the first steps in the installed system.
... unless we can get _every colleage in the world_ to recommend Fedora
Server and do these first steps, we need some kind of stand-in where those
other colleages are for some inexplicable reason failing. :) How can we do
this, without getting in the way of the above?
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