Hi,
I suggest to keep the both : local mirroring is sometimes not possible
to deploy (educational context for example, or nearly full datastore),
and even if minimal is cool, it could be not very user-friendly for
beginners...
--
Florian
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 16:41 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 11:54 AM Adam Williamson<
adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 11:20 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Williamson<
> > adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 10:20 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 8:49 AM Stephen Gallagher <
> > > > sgallagh(a)redhat.=
com> wrote:
> > > > > Arguments against this have historically been that having
> > > > > it all =
on
> > > > > one disk is better for network-constrained environments to
> > > > > avoiddownloading content multiple times. Realistically,
> > > > > however, I thi=
nk
> > > > > this is generally going to be solved by local mirroring in
> > > > > mostreal-world scenarios.
> > > >
> > > > I agree with the proposal.
> > > > I'd rather see a 'how to create a private mirror' step
by
> > > > step reci=
pe,
> > > > to incentivize more people to have a local mirror. I've read
> > > > this, =
but
> > > > almost immediately get lost:
> > > >
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_som=
eone_make_a_private_mirror.3F
> > > That's the guide I used to set up my mirror. Didn't really have
> > > anyproblems following it.
> >
> > Haha, that's not really helpful. You wanna go fly planes
> > sometime?I'll take off and land, and you can not drink away your
> > grub2-mkconfigmemories. :P
> > I will try again, and when I face plant, I'll ask if you have
> > anysuggestions for extracting myself from contortion. But I still
> > thinklanding planes is much more straightforward.
>
> I mean, it basically says "sign up with the mirror system so it can
> putyour server address at the top of the list for systems in
> yourspecified IP range, then use this script to do the actual
> mirroring".Is that really that hard?
Yep.
> Before you decide to become a mirrorWhat are the size
> estimates?Please read the DIRECTORY_SIZES.txt text file carefully.
> If you canallocate the required amount of space for mirroring
> Fedora, read on.
Read it carefully? Over 76000 lines? How about no. First line:
2.9T /pub/alt/
I don't have that much space, and the guide literally says not to
readon. But it also said read this file carefully which is obviously
notnecessary. So I'm gonna not trust this guide and read on...
> This script uses rsync and some informational files on the mirrors
> to allow you to only sync those files you need and saves lots of
> time and file seeking.
So which is it? I need 3TB of space or no? The guide is contradicting
itself.
I click on the quick-fedora-mirror link and oh my god more words,
whyso many words? This is a lot of words for what you claim is
basicallytwo steps and not hard.
> The client is quick-fedora-mirror. It is currently written in zsh
> but should be portable to bash.
That is not helpful. What does that mean? I have no idea how
thattranslates into an action I need to take and if I don't need to
takeaction why even write that?
> Installation:Copy quick-fedora-mirror somewhere.
OK quick-fedora-mirror is a python file, but above it says
it'swritten in zsh. There's both python and zsh, which one am I
using?
As I continue, I keep reading conditional language, passive
voice,unstated assumptions, this is really hard to parse. I keep
runninginto traps.
#### Required settings# Required: The the directory holding your copy
of all of the modules you# mirror. Does not include any module
nameDESTD=
What is a module? This is required but I can't figure out what
amodule is or why I care or what I'm supposed to do. Clearly a lot
ofassumptions are being made that do not at all apply to me which is
whyI keep getting stuck, which brings me right back to the very thing
Isaid at the start: a how to or step by step guide would be better
ifwe're really trying to incentivize people to have local mirrors.
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