Re: Discussion of Fedora Server use-cases
On 29.10.2013 16:22, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 16:12 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> On 28.10.2013 23:55, Michael R. Davis wrote:
>>> Would there be an equivalent -off for folks who wish to manually tinker
>>> prior to enabling?
>>
>> yum erase httpd-on; turns it off it's just a wrapper package...
>>
>> but yum install httpd; service httpd start; would still work.
>>
>>> I'm not convinced that yum should be in the business of
>>> enabling/disabling services like this.
>>
>> "yum" would not be. The spec "post" would actually
"do" it.
>>
>
> Wether a service is started or not is a policy decision that is local to
> the site where the service is installed and as such shouldn't be
> hard-coded into a package. Site local configuration policies lie
> completely outside the scope of package management and as such littering
> the distribution with lots of "*-on" packages just to make life a tiny
> bit easier for lazy admins is a really terrible idea I think.
Well there is a case for distributing policy via RPMs, it is a fine
distribution mechanism IMHO, but it is self-evidently a completely local
one, and will be better served by custom admin RPMs rather than
distribution provided ones.
I guess the fact that a service comes with a default configuration file
already counts as policy distribution but encapsulating something like
"chkconfig X on && service X start" in its own distribution maintained
package seems like overkill to me.
I don't think its a good idea to make the line between package and
configuration management too blurry.
Regards,
Dennis