On 08/11/2016 01:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Given that Greg DeKoenigsberg quite familiar with both communities what's is his
> take on the Fedora community being forced to take the Red Hat Ansible pill in
> Fedora? What benefit does he see coming from this effort ( if any ).

Just to be clear: this isn't an order coming down from Red Hat. Quite the
opposite, actually. Numerous members of the audience at the Flock talk on the
state of the Fedora Server chimed in about it and suggested it. It seemed to
make sense, so we approached Red Hat's Ansible folks about it and they're
willing to work with Fedora to get things working.

I just want to point this out because it really is important to understand the
direction this came from.

That makes no sense unless those server WG members are protecting their own interest or partnership with Red Hat and it's products ( It too much of a coincidence with Ansible, which just so happen to be Red Hat product got discussed over puppet or chief or all three of them ) as opposed to be looking at the community at whole from a neutral broader perspective.


      

        
> ( Assuming anyone within Red Hat has discussed this with him since it would be
> stupid not to get his insight on this ).
> 


      

      
Greg in particular wasn't on the internal thread that was started, but Robyn
Bergeron, Bill Nottingham and Toshio Kuratomi all are. That's a pretty
Fedora-aware set of people.


    

    

    You need an individual that is capable of seeing things from a
    broader perspective, has or had ties with and understands both
    communities, their needs and what benefits it might bring both of
    them ( if any ) and it just so happens to be that individual exist, 
    and as luck has it within a reach and that individual name is Greg
    Dekoenigsberg so he's the one that needs to be sat down with and
    discussed to get his ( valuable ) opinion on the matter regarding
    *Ansible* and it's community then you need to find his counterpart
    that resides in the puppet and chief communities ( of those exist ).

    

    Tying this to single CM be it Ansible, Puppet or Chief will
    immediately exclude participation from administrators that are using
    the other two popularly used CM that's a fact and as obvious as it
    can be so in the end of the day the discussion is about implementing
    and supporting all three of them or none, not just single one be it
    Ansible, Puppet or Chief it does not matter.

    

    JBG