Re: [URGENT] Flock session + PRDs

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Jul 20, 2016 15:36, "Stephen Gallagher" <sgallagh(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  So, there are two sessions happening at Flock that are of high urgency for
>  discussion:
>
>  The first is the State of the Server Union talk, which I originally 
proposed and
>  which was going to be taken over by Jon Stanley, except he was unable
> to 
secure
>  funding to go. It would be best if someone else on the Server WG who
> will 
be in
>  attendance would volunteer to take over, but in an absolute pinch, I
> can 
do it.
>  However, I have been out of the loop, so I'm going to need the WG
> to come 
up
>  with a set of topics that they want highlighted (otherwise I'm
> going to 
wing it,
>  which might not be flattering).
>  
I have been worried about the state of the server since your resignation
and others signing up and then running out of time energy pretty quickly
afterwards.  Where are things currently and are we reaching the state of
things that some other working groups have hit in the last year? (This
isn't meant in any way a troll as I am genuinely concerned that server work
is headed towards rollup)

>  The second important piece is the PRD update (recently announced, but
> it 
was
>  supposed to have been on the schedule by default since the Council
decided that
>  last year). Given that quite a bit has changed in the Server space in
> the 
last
>  year (not least the life-support status of rolekit), I think a deep
conversation
>  needs to happen on what space the Server wants to occupy. I'll
> also 
attend the
>  PRD session at Flock, but I would *really* like to see any of the WG
> that 
is
>  present for the conference in there as well.
>
>  
I will not be at Flock but I am also not part of the working group

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[URGENT] Flock session + PRDs

[Jóhann B. Guðmundsson]

On 07/20/2016 07:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

>  I have been worried about the state of the server since your 
>  resignation and others signing up and then running out of time energy 
>  pretty quickly afterwards.  Where are things currently and are we 
>  reaching the state of things that some other working groups have hit 
>  in the last year? (This isn't meant in any way a troll as I am 
>  genuinely concerned that server work is headed towards rollup)
>  
Interesting I would have expected you to be one of the first in the 
community to realize that how "products" got implemented in the 
distribution ( from the governance to implementation ) would never work 
out in the long term.

Just gear yourself up for a rollup or constant fundamental changes in 
WG's as in what they represents and their meaning ( from their initial 
approval from FESCo ) like has happened with the cloud "product".

Cockpit has been pushed into the distribution for early adoption for 
RHEL I guess there is little meaning for at least RH to continue with 
this effort.

JBG