Installation Media

[Stephen Gallagher]

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One thing that we haven't finished discussing (and need to settle on
sooner rather than later) is exactly what installation media we are
going to distribute. We are certainly going to distribute a DVD/USB
media (which also implies creation of an installable tree that can be
used over a network with virt-install).

The PRD also calls for a generic network install of one kind or
another. It has been unclear in past discussions how we plan to handle
that. If I remember correctly, two approaches have been suggested:

1) We build a traditional netinstall with anaconda included on it and
point it at the installable tree on the mirrors based on the DVD.
Advantage: Tooling is already available. No additional trees need to
be specified. Potentially can be shared with Workstation if we
coordinate it.

2) We use boot.fedoraproject.org and add entries for the Fedora Server
in the installation selection
Advantage: Allows us to potentially address serious bugs in Anaconda
after the stable release. Smaller install media download.


One additional thing to note is that with the network install media,
we should probably default to allowing access to the full Fedora
repositories and on the DVD/USB media we should make this an easy
option to enable.
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[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Wed, 07 May 2014 08:12:56 -0400
Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

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>  One thing that we haven't finished discussing (and need to settle on
>  sooner rather than later) is exactly what installation media we are
>  going to distribute. We are certainly going to distribute a DVD/USB
>  media (which also implies creation of an installable tree that can be
>  used over a network with virt-install).
>  
>  The PRD also calls for a generic network install of one kind or
>  another. It has been unclear in past discussions how we plan to handle
>  that. If I remember correctly, two approaches have been suggested:
>  
>  1) We build a traditional netinstall with anaconda included on it and
>  point it at the installable tree on the mirrors based on the DVD.
>  Advantage: Tooling is already available. No additional trees need to
>  be specified. Potentially can be shared with Workstation if we
>  coordinate it.
>  
>  2) We use boot.fedoraproject.org and add entries for the Fedora Server
>  in the installation selection
>  Advantage: Allows us to potentially address serious bugs in Anaconda
>  after the stable release. Smaller install media download.
>  
the normal compose process builds a pxe tree as well as dvd and boot.iso
the output of the pxe tree needs to be added with some glue for
boot.fp.o  we should do both. we get the first by default and people
can use it to set up their own pxe infrastructure. we really don't have
any good way period to fix anaconda bugs. we can do updates.img images
or recompose the tree.

Dennis
>  
>  One additional thing to note is that with the network install media,
>  we should probably default to allowing access to the full Fedora
>  repositories and on the DVD/USB media we should make this an easy
>  option to enable.
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[Miloslav Trmač]

2014-05-07 14:12 GMT+02:00 Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>  The PRD also calls for a generic network install of one kind or
>  another. It has been unclear in past discussions how we plan to handle
>  that. If I remember correctly, two approaches have been suggested:
>
>  1) We build a traditional netinstall with anaconda included on it and
>  point it at the installable tree on the mirrors based on the DVD.
>  Advantage: Tooling is already available. No additional trees need to
>  be specified. Potentially can be shared with Workstation if we
>  coordinate it.
>
>  2) We use boot.fedoraproject.org and add entries for the Fedora Server
>  in the installation selection
>  Advantage: Allows us to potentially address serious bugs in Anaconda
>  after the stable release. Smaller install media download.
>  
If the options are exclusive, I'm in favor of the former: ability to
install using "ordinary" PXE setups, including data centers that are
strictly firewalled from the internet[1], and minimizing the work needed,
seems preferable to me.
     Mirek

[1] Can I even verify that the code from boot.fp.o hasn't been modified on
the way?