Despite a posting to the lists earlier in the month to check our
spin content, apparently no one caught the fact that there was no
Moblin spin among the release candidates. At this point, we're going
to have to wait for mirrors to die down before we can consider
shipping a late copy.
I went to the Spins process page to see where things might have gone
off track, and found that the page stated that after acceptance the
following step occurs:
"Spin added to a wiki page containing a table listing all of the spins
for Fedora X (very similar to
Note that no one is responsible or accountable for it happening
according to the spin page, nor is the proper page listed. I made
a change, so now the step reads:
"The Spins Wrangler adds the Spin to a wiki page containing a table
listing all of the spins for Fedora 14
This change is not a decree by any means, but it seemed like the most
effective way to ensure entries get made.
I can't help but think we would have caught this problem if there were
regular Spins meetings, or at least schedule items that indicate the
SIG should carry out a task like checking the list of Spins before RC
phase. Earlier, I brought up the idea of entering a set of schedule
items. Ideally, someone on the SIG will step up to gather that list
of dates for Fedora 14, and talk to John Poelstra to make sure the
dates get on the release schedule. I'd also like to make sure we have
a clear spins wrangler who knows the responsibilities that come with
that role. That person should check over the spins process page
and find any places where it's not clear what the task is, and who is
responsible for doing it.
So -- who wants to gather the schedule and report it to John Poelstra
by around June 1?
Who is the current spins wrangler, and can that person go over the
page by around the same time, and bring questions to the list?
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First of all hello dear fedora contributors. I'm new on this list, so
please be indulgent if I don't follow all the rules yet. And excuse my
(sometimes) poor english, that's because I'm French.
My question was for the spin maintainers : There is a feature (nearing
completion) that was created in order to remove the default MTA from the
default install. As of today I downloaded the Fedora 14 beta KDE x86_64
live spin (by the way, great job and thank you, the KDE integration is
better than ever, still a few quirks, but everyone on the bugzilla is
reactive when kindly asked) and have seen sendmail still installed and
sendmail service enabled by default. But the feature allows for
uninstallation, without compromising the rest of the system. Try a 'yum
remove sendmail' : it *IS* definitely possible to remove it without
having redhat-lsb, cron and a bunch of things removed.
So (here it comes) why not remove sendmail from the default spins I
think the spins are desktop-oriented and desktop users don't need MTA,
right ? It could help save 1.5M according to yum, and allow faster boot
of the live spin.
That was just a suggestion, what is your opinion ?
Meeting started by brunowolff at 20:59:36 UTC. The full logs are
* Who's here? (brunowolff, 20:59:48)
* nightly spins (brunowolff, 21:01:11)
* other stuff (brunowolff, 21:08:45)
* Xfce size being worked on. (brunowolff, 21:12:47)
* evolution stuff should be moving to stable soon, which will allow
the Design Spin to compose again. (brunowolff, 21:15:03)
The Design Spin has failed to compose since September 8th. Currently a
dependency issue with gnome-python2-evolution and libcamel is blocking the
The KDE and XFCE spins appear to be slightly over their targeted sizes.
Author: Sebastian Vahl <fedora(a)deadbabylon.de>
Date: Tue Sep 21 18:16:43 2010 +0200
space saving: remove k3b for now; k3b-common will be splitted into subpkgs in the future
fedora-livecd-kde.ks | 2 +-
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/fedora-livecd-kde.ks b/fedora-livecd-kde.ks
index 70c7f65..68aa3a4 100644
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@
-kipi-plugins # ~8 megs
-konq-plugins # ~2 megs
-kdeplasma-addons # ~16 megs
+-k3b* # ~15 megs
# Additional packages that are not default in kde-desktop but useful
-koffice-suite # don't include whole koffice-suite, just parts of it
@@ -39,7 +40,6 @@ koffice-kspread # ~1 megs
koffice-kpresenter # ~3 megs
#kdeartwork # only include some parts of kdeartwork
#twinkle # (~10 megs)
nirik was only partially available, so I just made note of some FYI items
about status of spins with regard to the imminent beta release.
Meeting started by brunowolff at 21:00:58 UTC. The full logs are
* Who's here? (brunowolff, 21:01:46)
* spins' status (brunowolff, 21:04:19)
* livecd-tools (brunowolff, 21:06:36)
* Testing requirements (brunowolff, 21:08:35)
* squashfs-tools update (brunowolff, 21:09:38)
* beta (brunowolff, 21:11:37)
* others (brunowolff, 21:12:37)
Meeting ended at 21:15:46 UTC.