Spins for Alpha/Beta/Snapshots

[Jesse Keating]

I don't believe we've ever set an expectation of what spins will be
produced for which milestones.  It's been haphazard at best.

I would like to propose that spins are not created as part of
Alpha/Beta/Snapshots unless explicitly requested of releng.  (Note that
the Desktop and KDE live images are not what I consider "spins", they
are part of the on mirror distribution).  This would take effect
immediately (since I haven't built any spins for 13-Alpha...).

-- 
Jesse Keating
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[Bill Nottingham]

Jesse Keating (jkeating(a)redhat.com) said: 
>  I don't believe we've ever set an expectation of what spins
> will be
>  produced for which milestones.  It's been haphazard at best.
>  
>  I would like to propose that spins are not created as part of
>  Alpha/Beta/Snapshots unless explicitly requested of releng.  (Note that
>  the Desktop and KDE live images are not what I consider "spins", they
>  are part of the on mirror distribution).  This would take effect
>  immediately (since I haven't built any spins for 13-Alpha...). 
Well, I think if we're going to ship spins, they should be
tested as part of some milestone. Whether that's releng composing
them, or the Spins SIG composing them can be negotiated, but it's
probably simplest if they're pushed as part of a similar process.

Bill

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 14:06:49 -0800,
  Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  I don't believe we've ever set an expectation of what spins
> will be
>  produced for which milestones.  It's been haphazard at best.
>  
>  I would like to propose that spins are not created as part of
>  Alpha/Beta/Snapshots unless explicitly requested of releng.  (Note that
>  the Desktop and KDE live images are not what I consider "spins", they
>  are part of the on mirror distribution).  This would take effect
>  immediately (since I haven't built any spins for 13-Alpha...). 
Would this be accompanied by more advertising of the nightly composes that
nirik has setup?

[Jesse Keating]

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 22:16 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 14:06:49 -0800,
>    Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > I don't believe we've ever set an expectation of what spins will be
>  > produced for which milestones.  It's been haphazard at best.
>  > 
>  > I would like to propose that spins are not created as part of
>  > Alpha/Beta/Snapshots unless explicitly requested of releng.  (Note that
>  > the Desktop and KDE live images are not what I consider "spins", they
>  > are part of the on mirror distribution).  This would take effect
>  > immediately (since I haven't built any spins for 13-Alpha...).
>  
>  Would this be accompanied by more advertising of the nightly composes that
>  nirik has setup? 
Yes, the nightly composes could be mentioned on the Alpha release
announcement.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

[Adam Miller]

+1

I think the nightly builds are a solid enough test platform for Spins/SIGs
to work with. Just my opinion though.

-AdamM from Android(CM)

On Mar 2, 2010 11:53 PM, "Jesse Keating" <jkeating(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 22:16 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 14:06:49 -0800, 
...
Yes, the nightly composes could be mentioned on the Alpha release
announcement.


-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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[Bruno Wolff III]

On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 21:51:04 -0800,
  Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  Yes, the nightly composes could be mentioned on the Alpha release
>  announcement. 
I think this probably works out better as long as demand doesn't swamp
the server with the nightly composes. People can grab up to date ones
whenever and releng doesn't need to deal with worrying about them at
the alpha and beta crunch times. I suspect that having live spins
synchronized with the alpha and beta doesn't really add that much extra
value to testing.