On 01/07/2013 07:15 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 18:58:30 +0100,
Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not pointing fingers at releng here and I understand the work
> involved but I must say that this really saddens me. This project was
> part of the GSOC under my mentorship and my student performed all
> tasks well within projected deadlines for F18 (before the numerous
> delays). All steps outlined in the Spins process were followed to the
The kickstart file will still be available even if there isn't a posted
ISO. Also if you set up a comps group as part of this, it will be easy
for people to install the set of packages.
The main value of the release live ISOs is for demoing. If you are
really using the stuff, you normally want the package set installed on
top of whatever desktop you are using. Even for people who really use
live images for real work, there is value in rebuilding these regularly
to get updates.
For us it really is the best promotional tool - to have the spin a few
steps away from "Get Fedora". One of our main goals was to attract
contributors to the Audio SIG, and having an endorsed Spin lends a lot
of weight to that aim.
I will continue with the request to the websites team for the Fedora Jam
page so we can at least point it to the nightlies. On the positive side
there are great benefits in having an up to date ISO.
> The GSOC project as a whole was managed really well this year by
> Buddhike and co. I think the whole Spins process this time round
> reflects really poorly on Fedora's commitment to embracing new
> contributors and is quite frankly a kick in the face to the student
> who put in so much hard work over the summer.
The spins group is understaffed. If you wanted to try to run that
process you'd probably be given reign to do it. You'd get some help from
other people, but you'd end up doing most of the cat herding yoruself.
For Fedora 19 (this is also my first spin) I'll make sure I join the
Spins SIG and speak up if it looks like we're losing momentum.
Should we be encouraging prospective Spins to participate in the Feature
process to ensure these things don't fall of the radar?