10:48 a.m.
Hi all,
I'm working as an intern with the Open Rights Group this summer, and my
personal project for the next six weeks is to create a spin of Fedora
that is going to be bundled with lots of free content, promoting the
importance of the public domain and a vibrant commons, and then sent out
to MPs (members of parliament).
Kanarip said if I stopped by here people would be able to help me out
with the spin side of it? I think we're going to use the standard Fedora
live disc as our basis, and then we want to add symlinks on the desktop
to the media folders that will be kept on the root of the disc. As well
as this we're going to want to autostart Firefox and have it open up a
copy of a local web page that will help to provide context to the
content, as well as navigation.
What do you guys think, will you be able to help out? Even a few links
pointing me in the right direction will be a huge help as it's a big
project even without the live cd.
Thanks!
Jon
3:38 p.m.
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working as an intern with the Open Rights Group this summer, and my
personal project for the next six weeks is to create a spin of Fedora
that is going to be bundled with lots of free content, promoting the
importance of the public domain and a vibrant commons, and then sent out
to MPs (members of parliament).
Kanarip said if I stopped by here people would be able to help me out
with the spin side of it? I think we're going to use the standard Fedora
live disc as our basis, and then we want to add symlinks on the desktop
to the media folders that will be kept on the root of the disc. As well
as this we're going to want to autostart Firefox and have it open up a
copy of a local web page that will help to provide context to the
content, as well as navigation.
What do you guys think, will you be able to help out? Even a few links
pointing me in the right direction will be a huge help as it's a big
project even without the live cd.
I did a similar thing, used the livecd tools to provide a demo desktop
environment. The basic process which I used was:
1) Use the existing live-* tools to build the ISO or USB.
2) Log in, and set up the desktop how you like it.
3) Copy out the necessary files from the home directory (.nautilus,
Desktop, and .gconf I think)
4) Rebuild (1) but add %post section to coy in the files from (3)
-- bk
5:29 p.m.
Bryan Kearney wrote:
I did a similar thing, used the livecd tools to provide a demo
desktop
environment. The basic process which I used was:
1) Use the existing live-* tools to build the ISO or USB.
2) Log in, and set up the desktop how you like it.
3) Copy out the necessary files from the home directory (.nautilus,
Desktop, and .gconf I think)
4) Rebuild (1) but add %post section to coy in the files from (3)
He could just create a new user on his system and use that profile to be
copied onto the live disk during the first compose using the copy_dir
setting available in Revisor. We're looking for someone willing to test
the now conceptual integration with Sabayon.
-Jeroen
5:30 p.m.
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 00:29 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Fedora Project)
wrote:
Bryan Kearney wrote:
> I did a similar thing, used the livecd tools to provide a demo desktop
> environment. The basic process which I used was:
>
> 1) Use the existing live-* tools to build the ISO or USB.
> 2) Log in, and set up the desktop how you like it.
> 3) Copy out the necessary files from the home directory (.nautilus,
> Desktop, and .gconf I think)
> 4) Rebuild (1) but add %post section to coy in the files from (3)
>
He could just create a new user on his system and use that profile to be
copied onto the live disk during the first compose using the copy_dir
setting available in Revisor. We're looking for someone willing to test
the now conceptual integration with Sabayon.
This sounds perfect :) How would I get the iso to build with the files
in the root directory of the CD though? Or would I have to rebuild the
ISO myself with mkisofs?
What do you need testing with Sabayon?
Jon
6 p.m.
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 00:29 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Fedora
Project)
wrote:
> Bryan Kearney wrote:
>> I did a similar thing, used the livecd tools to provide a demo desktop
>> environment. The basic process which I used was:
>>
>> 1) Use the existing live-* tools to build the ISO or USB.
>> 2) Log in, and set up the desktop how you like it.
>> 3) Copy out the necessary files from the home directory (.nautilus,
>> Desktop, and .gconf I think)
>> 4) Rebuild (1) but add %post section to coy in the files from (3)
>>
> He could just create a new user on his system and use that profile to be
> copied onto the live disk during the first compose using the copy_dir
> setting available in Revisor. We're looking for someone willing to test
> the now conceptual integration with Sabayon.
This sounds perfect :) How would I get the iso to build with the files
in the root directory of the CD though? Or would I have to rebuild the
ISO myself with mkisofs?
What do you need testing with Sabayon?
With Sabayon, we want to integrate the process of tweaking the default
live system desktop user's settings into Revisors GUI, so that you
select packages, tweak some system settings, add a user, tweak the
desktop for that user (Sabayon), and start the compose. The culprit here
is that Sabayon would run in an earlier stage then the actual
installation of packages, and as such will not be able to represent in
any way what the desktop will look like for the user on the resulting
product.
For now, I suggest you go with the description of how to do things in
the other mail I just sent (and should already have hit your INBOX).
-Jeroen
5:42 p.m.
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working as an intern with the Open Rights Group this summer, and my
personal project for the next six weeks is to create a spin of Fedora
that is going to be bundled with lots of free content, promoting the
importance of the public domain and a vibrant commons, and then sent out
to MPs (members of parliament).
Kanarip said if I stopped by here people would be able to help me out
with the spin side of it? I think we're going to use the standard Fedora
live disc as our basis, and then we want to add symlinks on the desktop
to the media folders that will be kept on the root of the disc. As well
as this we're going to want to autostart Firefox and have it open up a
copy of a local web page that will help to provide context to the
content, as well as navigation.
What do you guys think, will you be able to help out? Even a few links
pointing me in the right direction will be a huge help as it's a big
project even without the live cd.
Hey Jon,
good to see you here ;-)
First of all this is one of the very important use-cases where I would
like to see the external, non-Fedora content not cause us to require you
to rebrand anything.
Second, you are going to need to make sure that the packages are not
consuming too much space, so basing your live spin off of an existing
spin will probably require you to remove some of the packages in that
spin. If you use the kickstart in Revisor, use the --report-sizes
command line switch (even if you start the GUI) to make it report the 25
most space consuming packages, allowing you to efficiently remove
packages requiring the most space accordingly.
Third, if you create a new user on your system, and set it up the way
you want it (autostarting Firefox with a certain page, shortcuts on the
desktop, etc.), log out and back in to your own user account. Then, copy
every file you want to be on the live media into a tree such as:
/tmp/home/user/.gconf
/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-1.X/whateverplugin.so
Then, use Revisor's copy_dir setting to copy the tree, in this case
/tmp, right onto what is going to be the live system root directory.
Hope this helps!
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
10:02 a.m.
good to see you here ;-)
Thanks!
First of all this is one of the very important use-cases where I
would
like to see the external, non-Fedora content not cause us to require you
to rebrand anything.
I agree, this is not only a cool project for free content, but it's a
great chance to show off free software too and I'd love to keep Fedora's
brand in there.
Does the spins sig handle this, or will I need to go and talk with the
board? Also, what requirements exist for us to keep the Fedora brand?
Second, you are going to need to make sure that the packages are not
consuming too much space, so basing your live spin off of an existing
spin will probably require you to remove some of the packages in that
spin. If you use the kickstart in Revisor, use the --report-sizes
command line switch (even if you start the GUI) to make it report the 25
most space consuming packages, allowing you to efficiently remove
packages requiring the most space accordingly.
Space isn't such a big constraint for us (I say that now, ask me again
in a few days!) as we're using DVD media so even if we have an 800mb
Fedora image, it still leaves us with over 3Gb of space for content!
Third, if you create a new user on your system, and set it up the way
you want it (autostarting Firefox with a certain page, shortcuts on the
desktop, etc.), log out and back in to your own user account. Then, copy
every file you want to be on the live media into a tree such as:
/tmp/home/user/.gconf
/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-1.X/whateverplugin.so
Then, use Revisor's copy_dir setting to copy the tree, in this case
/tmp, right onto what is going to be the live system root directory.
Wow OK that looks very simple and I'll be getting around to that early
next week hopefully. One question I have though, is how would we set it
up so that we can have symlinks on the desktop that point to files on
the root of the CD?
Can we just create the symlinks on the user I create, point them
at /media/$disc_label, and they'll be included and set up properly by
copy_dir?
Seems a silly question now I've talked it through in my head, but I might as well ask
now :)
Hope this helps!
Yeah, I can't believe how easy this is going to be!!
Thanks for the advice,
Jon
11:56 a.m.
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 16:02 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Does the spins sig handle this, or will I need to go and talk with
the
board? Also, what requirements exist for us to keep the Fedora brand?
The Board's main interest is in trademark approvals, which happens after
most of the technical work is done. We're also interested in ensuring
spins are useful reconstitutions of Fedora, but this SIG really helps
front-load that step in the process.
--
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9:24 a.m.
Hey Jon,
good to see you here ;-)
Third, if you create a new user on your system, and set it up the way
you
want it (autostarting Firefox with a certain page, shortcuts on the desktop,
etc.), log out and back in to your own user account. Then, copy every file
you want to be on the live media into a tree such as:
/tmp/home/user/.gconf
/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-1.X/whateverplugin.so
Then, use Revisor's copy_dir setting to copy the tree, in this case /tmp,
right onto what is going to be the live system root directory.
Right, I've finally reached the point in my project where I'm ready to
begin creating the live cd (woo!).
A few questions:
1) I need livna to begin with (haven't converted files to theora/ogg
yet). When I specify livna in the ks using the mirrorlist from my
livna.repo file, it hangs.
2) copy_dir goes in the revisor.conf file right?
3) Where does this copy the data too? For now I need it to be copied
to the home directory of the livecd's user.
I think those are my questions for now. Many thanks for any help any
one can give me :)
Jon
5:49 a.m.
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> Hey Jon,
>
> good to see you here ;-)
> Third, if you create a new user on your system, and set it up the way you
> want it (autostarting Firefox with a certain page, shortcuts on the desktop,
> etc.), log out and back in to your own user account. Then, copy every file
> you want to be on the live media into a tree such as:
>
> /tmp/home/user/.gconf
> /tmp/usr/lib/firefox-1.X/whateverplugin.so
>
> Then, use Revisor's copy_dir setting to copy the tree, in this case /tmp,
> right onto what is going to be the live system root directory.
Right, I've finally reached the point in my project where I'm ready to
begin creating the live cd (woo!).
A few questions:
1) I need livna to begin with (haven't converted files to theora/ogg
yet). When I specify livna in the ks using the mirrorlist from my
livna.repo file, it hangs.
Hmm, what does the kickstart section with regards to the repository
configuration look like?
2) copy_dir goes in the revisor.conf file right?
Yes, in the model configuration, e.g.:
[f9-i386-foo]
description=(...)
(...)
copy_dir=/tmp (which btw in general is a bad location to choose for
copy_dir because of all the other bits that are in there, but OK)
3) Where does this copy the data too? For now I need it to be copied
to the home directory of the livecd's user.
Everything in the copy_dir directory tree should be copied over "/" on
the live system.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip
5:58 a.m.
> 1) I need livna to begin with (haven't converted files to
theora/ogg
> yet). When I specify livna in the ks using the mirrorlist from my
> livna.repo file, it hangs.
>
Hmm, what does the kickstart section with regards to the repository
configuration look like?
# Add the repos you wish to use to compose here. At least one of them
needs gr$
repo --name=fedora
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?rep$
repo --name=fedora-source
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorl$
repo --name=fedora-updates
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirror$
repo --name=fedora-updates-source
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org$
repo --name=livna --baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/9/i386/
> 2) copy_dir goes in the revisor.conf file right?
>
Yes, in the model configuration, e.g.:
[f9-i386-foo]
description=(...)
(...)
copy_dir=/tmp (which btw in general is a bad location to choose for
copy_dir because of all the other bits that are in there, but OK)
Ah, this bit suddenly made sense to me. So if it's copied to root, I
need to put the files I want in say:
/tmp/home/fedora/
which will be copied over to /home/fedora/
?
Thanks for the help,
Jon
8:36 a.m.
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> 1) I need livna to begin with (haven't converted files to
theora/ogg
>> yet). When I specify livna in the ks using the mirrorlist from my
>> livna.repo file, it hangs.
>>
> Hmm, what does the kickstart section with regards to the repository
> configuration look like?
# Add the repos you wish to use to compose here. At least one of them
needs gr$
repo --name=fedora
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?rep$
repo --name=fedora-source
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorl$
repo --name=fedora-updates
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirror$
repo --name=fedora-updates-source
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org$
repo --name=livna --baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/9/i386/
This should *just work* but maybe needs a repo for livna-source ?
>> 2) copy_dir goes in the revisor.conf file right?
>>
> Yes, in the model configuration, e.g.:
>
> [f9-i386-foo]
> description=(...)
> (...)
> copy_dir=/tmp (which btw in general is a bad location to choose for
> copy_dir because of all the other bits that are in there, but OK)
Ah, this bit suddenly made sense to me. So if it's copied to root, I
need to put the files I want in say:
/tmp/home/fedora/
which will be copied over to /home/fedora/
Yes, that's the idea.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip
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