December 2003 - test - Fedora mailing-lists

kernel 2.6.0-test11 custom compile weirdness
by RaXeT 13 Dec '03

13 Dec '03

Something I've noticed and not sure why. When compiling a custom kernel the entire process works flawlessly except that after make install, all the driver permissions aren't properly set. I had to do chmod 744 with -R to get the permissions right. Also I noticed that on arjanv's test11 that I immediately received a kernel panic on (0,0) for kernel-2.6.0-0.test11.1.102.i686. Currently have a very stable NON custom kernel-2.6.0-0.test11.1.100.i686 in operation grabbed from arjanv's http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ site. I'm thinking that somehow my sata drive is at issue. Issuing an lspci I get the following address for the Promise RAID controller: 0000:02:04.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20376 (rev 02) Any ideas why custom kernel building creates a non functioning, kernel panick for this kernel? I have built many custom kernels and not sure what is causing this problem. Any ideas? Thanks, RaXeT

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RE: What does REDHAT recomend for 3D video card?
by alton bailey 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

all my computer have an Nvidia card and I have no problem with them from redhat 5.2 to 9 and yarrow not a problem >From: Stephan Schutter <rhl(a)farorbit.com> >Reply-To: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com >To: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com >Subject: What does REDHAT recomend for 3D video card? >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:47:37 -0600 > >I have got the impression that RH does not respect NVidia much because >they will not give their code away... and well... sometimes there are >issues with the RedHat kernels and nvidia (sometimes they are compiled >with a different compiler than the one that is distributed with the >system?). Soooooo.... The big question: What video card am I supposed to >use? What DOES RedHat recommend? > > >-- >fedora-test-list mailing list >fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

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[fwd] During install ftp method fails on corret addresses
by Harry Putnam 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

forwared from yarrow list ( hp -ed) Trying install over ftp or http but these addresses are rejected: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/ pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/ ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/ pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/ Trying harddisk... my isos aren't recognized as reported previously.

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ACL support
by Richard Houston 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

I have a need for acl support. I will be replacing a Novell server with rather complex access permission. Will there be acl support in the fedora kernel anytime soon. If not would anyone be willing to help me out in getting the patches installed. I would also like acl support for JFS. I am currently using a SUSE kernel on fedora FC1 and the acls works fine but the gnome desktop seems to be a little flake with the suse kernel. -- Thanks in advance, Richard Houston R.L.H. Consulting www.rlhc.net

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What does REDHAT recomend for 3D video card?
by Stephan Schutter 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

I have got the impression that RH does not respect NVidia much because they will not give their code away... and well... sometimes there are issues with the RedHat kernels and nvidia (sometimes they are compiled with a different compiler than the one that is distributed with the system?). Soooooo.... The big question: What video card am I supposed to use? What DOES RedHat recommend?

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RE: What does REDHAT recomend for 3D video card?
by Vanco, Don 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

Klaasjan Brand [kjb(a)dds.nl] wrote: <snip> > Can't speak for Red Hat, but since they only support the open source > DRI drivers I guess you should look for the best supported DRI cards. > Currently the fastest cards supported by DRI are the lower > end ATI cards > (Radeon 9200). If you're no gamer and only use 3d ocasionally that's > fine (I'm running a radeon 8500 without problems). Aside from the fact that this way OT - this email is by far the most hilarious yet. I'm not waging a personal attack, but come on - "If you're not a gamer or only run 3D occasionally you may have to """settle""" for a Radeon 8500 or 9200??? That statement is hilarious! Both these cards are capable of 3D graphics FAR beyond what the human eye can appreciate - unless, of course, you're one of the people that believe they can actually _see_ Unreal @ 90+fps. Don

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fc1_x86_64 preview on tyan thunder k8w (S2885ANRF REV .03)
by Rob Myers 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

hello- thanks for getting fedora working on x86_64! i've tried to search linux-kernel archives, archives at www.x86-64.org, and bugzilla at redhat.com, but i haven't found all the answers i'm looking for. is there a faq anywhere for linux on x86_64 or even for fedora on x86_64? my system is running fedora core 1 x86_64 preview updated to kernel 2.4.22-1.2129.nptlsmp on dual opteron 248 2.2GHz tyan thunder k8w with 4gb of ram. acpi=off is passed to the kernel as a boot parameter or else it hangs with dma errors during or after boot. first, i've got 4gb of ram in the machine, but cat /proc/meminfo only reports 3.5gb free: total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 3539730432 91926528 3447803904 0 24104960 29126656 Swap: 4186656768 0 4186656768 is this a bug or am i missing something? i also tried passing mem=4G with no success second, AMD-8111 IDE has dma timeouts if acpi is enabled. is this a known issue? third, just to report my experience: (i think these are known issues) - the onboard broadcom 5703 based gigabit does not work properly with tg3, but broadcom 5701 based 3Com 3C996B-T does work properly with tg3. - the onboard sil SATA controller does not work - kernel-smp-2.6.0-0.test11.1.100.x86_64.rpm from http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel does not boot, just oopses to the console. thanks for any help, info or pointers. rob. ps- dmesg attached in case that will provide any useful info.

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RE: What does REDHAT recomend for 3D video card?
by David Balazic 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

> Klaasjan Brand [kjb(a)dds.nl] wrote: > <snip> > > Can't speak for Red Hat, but since they only support the open source > > DRI drivers I guess you should look for the best supported DRI cards. > > Currently the fastest cards supported by DRI are the lower > > end ATI cards > > (Radeon 9200). If you're no gamer and only use 3d ocasionally that's > > fine (I'm running a radeon 8500 without problems). > Aside from the fact that this way OT - this email is by far the most > hilarious yet. I'm not waging a personal attack, but come on - "If you're > not a gamer or only run 3D occasionally you may have to """settle""" for a > Radeon 8500 or 9200??? That statement is hilarious! Both these cards are > capable of 3D graphics FAR beyond what the human eye can appreciate - > unless, of course, you're one of the people that believe they can actually > _see_ Unreal @ 90+fps. > Totally OT, but 90fps does not mean that the picture is actually smooth. Go watch a 24 fps movie in the theatre and a 50 fps 3D game and you'll notice that movements in the movie are much smoother, while in the game they stutter/jump/are jerky/unnatural. So pumping 100 fps might lower this problem, but not eliminate it. It is like 1024x768 3D game screenshot still looks much more artificial that a 640x480 screenshot from a movie. High numbers are not everything. So just because a 8500 can render 1024x768@60fps does not mean that there is nothing to improve. Whatever, David Balazic > Don > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >

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Re: raid controller recommendation
by Neal D. Becker 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:26 pm, Raymond Norton wrote: > I have decided to do a hardware raid rather than struggle with the > software raid. What would be a good, inexpensive controller that can do > raid level 1? No, hardware raid is a struggle. Software raid is easy. Software raid is also more flexible! You can raid partitions, instead of whole disks.

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[fwd] During install.. needed improvement
by Harry Putnam 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Forwared here from yarrow list (hp -ed)

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[fwd] No recognition of isos with floppy install or boot.iso
by Harry Putnam 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Forwared here from Yarrow list ( hp -ed)

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diskcheck default configuration bug/problem
by Doncho N. Gunchev 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

When I get mail from diskcheck with redhat9/fedora core 1 with the default settings in the mail headers I see: |--- cut --- |To: root(a)globalnet.bg |From: Disk(a)globalnet.bg, Usage(a)globalnet.bg, Monitor(a)globalnet.bg, | -(a)globalnet.bg, diskcheck(a)globalnet.bg |Subject: Low disk space warning |--- cut --- which kmail at least shows like 5 users have send this email. I fixed the problem after looking in '/etc/cron.hourly/diskcheck' and '/etc/diskcheck.conf'. If I remove the setting in the .conf file or change it to "Disk Usage Monitor - diskcheck <diskcheck(a)globalnet.bg>" everything is fine - 1 sender :) |--- cut --- |To: root(a)globalnet.bg |From: Disk Usage Monitor - diskcheck <diskcheck(a)globalnet.bg> |Subject: Low disk space warning |--- cut --- Here's how the default files look like: In '/etc/diskcheck.conf' we have: |--- cut --- |# Who to identify the mail as coming from. |mailFrom = "Disk Usage Monitor - diskcheck" |--- cut --- while in '/etc/cron.hourly/diskcheck' we have: |--- cut --- | set_default(conf, 'mailFrom', "Disk Usage Monitor <root>") |--- cut --- I tryed reporting this problem via https://bugzilla.fedora.us/query.cgi, but I can not find 'diskcheck' listed there. I supose the easy way to fix this is to change the default configuration file, but the "Right Way"(tm) maybe is to add some checks in diskcheck itself... or this is postfix problem (I don't use sendmail on any PC)? btw: how is it possible to have 1 email with 5 senders? -- Regards, Doncho N. Gunchev

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AMD64 Preview Release FAQ is now available
by Justin M. Forbes 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

An FAQ for the AMD preview release is now available at: http://www.linuxtx.org/amd64faq.html More updates as I get feedback and time. Justin M. Forbes

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understanding applications and PAE
by Vanco, Don 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

While I hate to use this as a support line I've gotten no help from the 2 local lugs I've queried, and know that there's some heavy hitters lurking here. I understand that the Linux kernel can (through PAE) provide memory paging beyond 4GB of physical memory on 32-bit architecture. What I need to understand is: what are the requirements on the application side to utilize this memory? I'm looking for documentation / links that talk about applications and PAE. Case in point: Lotus Notes on OS400 can address huge amount of RAM, but when it's running on Linux does it need to be compiled in a specific manner, or with some specific bit of code / API to address more than the architecture physically supports? Thanx Don

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arjanv/2.5 device-mapper lvm2
by Neal D. Becker 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

I see there is now device-mapper and lvm2 RPMS at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/. Cool! So, how do I use it? I currently have fedora1 installed on lvm1/raid (stripped). Boot is ext3, but root is lvm1. Is there a way to run 2.5 directly, or do I need to backup and re-install?

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Re: telinit 3 broken
by Neal D. Becker 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

On Wednesday 10 December 2003 10:18 am, William Hooper wrote: > Neal D. Becker said: > > It seems the run levels in fedora1 are messed up. Telinit 3 (until now) > > would > > just shut down X windows. Now, transition 5->3 is turning off nfs (or so > > the > > messages tell me), and other things like mailman. > > > > Transition 5->3->5 left me with what looks to be multiple instances of > > mailman > > running! That shouldn't happen. > > What is the output of: > > /sbin/chkconfig --list nfs > /sbin/chkconfig --list mailman /sbin/chkconfig --list nfs nfs 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:on 6:off /sbin/chkconfig --list mailman mailman 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off So it's not surprising that nfs turns off, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change this setting. If so, the default setting is apparantly wrong.

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rivatv 0.8.3 compile problem
by Michal Zeravik 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

Hi, I'm getting error while trying to compile rivatv-0.8.3: A warning appears during configure: Checking for kernel gcc... 3.2.3 *** WARNING: *** If you are going to use the running kernel (compiled *** with gcc version 3.2.3) with RivaTV (will be compiled *** with gcc version 3.3.2) you may experience system crashes. and make is terminated by : v4l-riva.c: In function `rivatv_mmap': v4l-riva.c:1814: warning: passing arg 1 of `remap_page_range_R69d01e73' makes integer from pointer without a cast v4l-riva.c:1814: incompatible type for argument 4 of `remap_page_range_R69d01e73' v4l-riva.c:1814: too many arguments to function `remap_page_range_R69d01e73' make[2]: *** [v4l-riva.o] Error 1 Do you have any experience to solve this problem on fc1 with 2.4.22-1.2129.nptl? Thanx michalz

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Re: Fedora Core 2 wishlists
by Neal D. Becker 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

kde3.2, hopefully released by then? If not, beta2 is working well for me.

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Boot-time hangs using Orinoco silver wireless card
by Ben Stringer 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

I have had my Dell Inspiron 8600 running Fedora, and it has been fine using a wired ethernet connection. As the internal 802.11b is not natively supported by Fedora (yet) I fell back to the reliable Orinoco silver PCMCIA card I have been using for 3 years (RH 6.1 -> 9). However, about 80% of the time I boot with the Orinoco card, the boot process hangs just before GDM start, and nothing responds (virtual terms etc.) until I pop the card out and push it back in, then all is well. Also, after a number of hours, the wireless card's interface drops, and again, popping the card out then in fixes it. Any thoughts appreciated. Cheers, Ben

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Fedora Core 1 Test Update: bash-2.05b-34
by Tim Waugh 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

--------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2003-033 2003-12-09 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : bash Version : 2.05b Release : 34 Summary : The GNU Bourne Again shell (bash) version 2.05b. Description : The GNU Bourne Again shell (Bash) is a shell or command language interpreter that is compatible with the Bourne shell (sh). Bash incorporates useful features from the Korn shell (ksh) and the C shell (csh). Most sh scripts can be run by bash without modification. This package (bash) contains bash version 2.05b, which improves POSIX compliance over previous versions. However, many old shell scripts will depend upon the behavior of bash 1.14, which is included in the bash1 package. Bash is the default shell for Red Hat Linux. It is popular and powerful, and you'll probably end up using it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: When interactively editing a command line with UTF-8 encoding, the GNU bash shell can be very inefficient (bug #102353, bug #110777). A method for speeding up UTF-8 processing in bash has been incorporated in this updated package. Other bugs fixed in this package include bug #83776 (bash.info problem), bug #109269 (apply official patches) and bug #111171 (build requirements). --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Tue Dec 09 2003 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 2.05b-34 - Build requires texinfo (bug #111171). * Fri Nov 28 2003 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 2.05b-33 - Speed up UTF-8 command-line redrawing in the common case (bug #102353, bug #110777). * Thu Nov 06 2003 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 2.05b-32 - Apply upstream patches (bug #109269 among others). * Fri Oct 31 2003 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> - Fix bash.info (bug #83776). --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ e15043119ad8267bf7994c9e44ec0d55 SRPMS/bash-2.05b-34.src.rpm 2f930001d02a3095fba6253221019a1e i386/bash-2.05b-34.i386.rpm 8d6e00c686b93a7bfec663287adf928b i386/debug/bash-debuginfo-2.05b-34.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Problems with IDE controller (sporadic) with the Fedora Kernel
by Kyon 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Folks, I have installed the fedora system on my girls computer, and have found that when I boot into the kernel from that system, I will get a system crash with the ide controller unable to write/read from the disk. This will happen not immediately, but after a few hours of operation. The one thing that may have occured is that the screen saver may have come on, I will find this after I come back to the system after it's been idle for a while (maybe there's a power saving ide suspend command that gets called when the system is idle) The system will NOT do this with the standard 9 kernel (and has been up and 'stable' for quite a while ~1.5yrs). The offending kernel is 2.4.21-20.1.2024.2.1.nptl and the reliable kernel is 2.4.20 (from a tar file, the Fedora core has helpfully removed all my previous kernels, I so notice now that I check). I did the config on this kernel tree on Feb 28, 2003, but I can't place it any more clearly in the kernel pantheon. The system is an ASUS A7S333 motherboard, and the portion of dmesg relevant to the ide is hda: WDC WD800JB-00DUA0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c0400040, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) hdc: TDK CDRW241040X, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: host protected area => 1 hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63, UDMA(100) (i.e. a Western digital 80GB drive , in UDMA(100) mode. ) I also have the cdrom using ide-scsi, if that has any relevance. Am I alone in this problem, or are there other folks with this strange ide problem? -- Kyon

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FC1 AMD64 Preview installer crash
by Joshua Baker-LePain 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

I'm trying to install the AMD64 preview of FC1 on a dual Opteron system (dual 240s, HDAMA motherboard, 8GB RAM). Anaconda crashes (with a kernel BUG) just as it's starting the text mode installer. If I boot with mem=2048M, the installer works just fine, although I still end up with a broken system[1]. I've got a serial console log from the failed install (trimmed down to mostly the essentials) here: http://www.duke.edu/~jlb17/installer.crash.8GB.txt If I can do anything or provide any more details, let me know. [1] It OOPSes on boot. If I edit the boot line in grub to add a serial console, it seems to actually boot (??), but has the library issues I see others having in the archives. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University

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Re: CUPS - GS - question/problem
by Tim Waugh 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:07:43PM -0700, reg(a)dwf.com wrote: > > > > So the question. > > > Is it possible to configure CUPS to use a specific version of gs??? > > > and yes, there are reasons for my having two versions on the system. > > > > Why not start with explaining why it is that you need two versions? > > > > Im smart enough to change MY environment so it CUPS doesnt see the > wrong gs, the question was is CUPS smart enough to be told where to > look. > > As to why, one version is experimental, and may or may not work, and > it surely doesnt have the CUPS drivers in it. If you're doing development and know what you're doing, great. Start cupsd with the PATH you want and you're set. Tim. */

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Fedora 440GX boot disk test
by Alan Cox 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

I've put a test boot floppy image for the 440GX on http://people.redhat.com/alan Its generated by adding Len's fixes to the FC1 kernel and then remaking the boot floppy. Alan

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Fedora Core 1 Test Update: gphoto2-2.1.3-1
by Tim Waugh 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

--------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2003-028 2003-12-04 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Name : gphoto2 Version : 2.1.3 Release : 1 Summary : Software for accessing digital cameras Description : The gPhoto2 project is a universal, free application and library framework that lets you download images from several different digital camera models, including the newer models with USB connections. Note that a) for some older camera models you must use the old "gphoto" package. b) for USB mass storage models you must use the driver in the kernel This package contains i) the library that digital camera applications can use ii) the command-line utility gphoto2 Other (GUI) frontends are available separately. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information: New packages are available for gPhoto2, in order to fix bug #111415. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Wed Dec 03 2003 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 2.1.3-1 - 2.1.3. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/ 2e1335a8010dd12c6aba028c893f4e19 SRPMS/gphoto2-2.1.3-1.src.rpm b11418429e860c71e16f1b659769f045 i386/gphoto2-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm b459f6e3ae2437e8da984533081a4c3c i386/gphoto2-devel-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm ed0bdb7b5d0e4d8d7dd8821cd1594e93 i386/debug/gphoto2-debuginfo-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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