December 2004 - test - Fedora Mailing-Lists

by Paul Iadonisi

First, it think it's fantastic that the Fedora Project is considering bundling a Xen enabled kernel. I know it's only in development now and likely not etched in stone yet, but nevertheless ... cool. But I have a few questions, some of which I have educated guess about the answers. I post them mostly here for discussion, as I suspect that some things are undecided or unexplored. 1. Uh ... so where are the Xen control tools? I suspect these are forthcoming, I just wanted to double check. 2. On a somewhat related note, Red Hat at one time bundled a UML kernel but later stopped (even in an errata kernel for that same release). What were the reasons for this? 3. I know some basic differences between UML and Xen, but I'm wondering about the differences in mindshare. How much 'industry' buy-in does each have? I note that Xen has some support of both HP Labs and Intel Research Cambridge. 4. Any idea if it will show up in a future version of RHEL as well? 5. On the technical side ... are the changes to the domain0 kernel running on the raw hardware non-intrusive enough that it may one day become feasible and/or desirable to just ship the standard kernel as a Xen-enabled kernel? 6. What is the likelihood that Xen will be included in Linus' kernel someday? Has anyone solicited Linus' opinion on Xen? I'm curious because that would mean *two* virtualization technologies that could potentially interfere with one another, or at least be mutually exclusive at build time. Not that it would matter much from a practical end-user perspective ... if you really want to run a bunch of Xen domains within a UML ... I suppose there are worse ways to torture yourself ;-). 7. What do people think of the idea of porting Anaconda to run under Xen so that you can install a full release of Fedora Core (or RHEL) as an unprivileged guest the way you would normally install the OS? I'm not exactly volunteering, but I did *almost* have the installer booting within UML and start to install Red Hat Linux. It bombed out at some point. Can't remember where. I did it all without hacking any python, IIRC. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets

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Fedora Core 2 Test Update: system-config-date-1.7.13-0.fc2.1

by Nils Philippsen

This release updates system-config-date to the current codebase. Please test extensively, barring problems I plan to release this as final within a week or so. Nils --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-469 2004-11-29 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : system-config-date Version : 1.7.13 Release : 0.fc2.1 Summary : A graphical interface for modifying system date and time Description : system-config-date is a graphical interface for changing the system date and time, configuring the system time zone, and setting up the NTP daemon to synchronize the time of the system with a NTP time server. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Nov 26 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.13-0.fc2.1 - enable Gujarati and Tamil translations (#140881) * Mon Nov 22 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.12-1 - remove wrongly encoded character (#140318) and duplicate word from French man page * Wed Sep 29 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.11-1 - avoid GtkDeprecationWarning on gtk.mainquit on new pygtk (#134043) * Tue Sep 28 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.10-1 - make timezone page contents actually be shown in firstboot * Tue Sep 28 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.9-1 - enable choosing which notebook page(s) to show (for firstboot, #133748) - some minor firstboot API changes, conflict with firstboot <= 1.3.26 - some minor UI tweaks - remove pool.ntp.org from list of NTP server choices as system-config-date doesn't handle multi-IP machines really well ATM * Fri Sep 17 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.8-1 - use pool.ntp.org as first choice of NTP servers (#132787) * Thu Sep 16 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.7-2 - buildrequire python * Tue Sep 14 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.7-1 - byte-compile python files - first shot at something like an interface for firstboot * Mon Sep 13 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> - get widget sensitivity correct on startup (#132431) * Fri Sep 03 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.5-1 - actually display time zone map (#131641) - put NTP stuff into own tab to better accommodate firstboot (#131314) - add accelerators to Date & Time tab * Fri Aug 27 2004 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> 1.7.4-1 - handle multiple servers, broadcastclient (#115148), local time source (#72110) --------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/ 6d42525e0305336ce4043ae69d10077f SRPMS/system-config-date-1.7.13-0.fc2.1.src.rpm ab1ee3214319620109886b1d0537ba57 x86_64/system-config-date-1.7.13-0.fc2.1.noarch.rpm ab1ee3214319620109886b1d0537ba57 i386/system-config-date-1.7.13-0.fc2.1.noarch.rpm This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2... --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

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How to show the total number of NPTL threads running around?

by Ernest L. Williams Jr.

Hi, I keep finding info about how to set the max number of threads for the system. However, I need to get the total number of threads currently running and compare that to the max. Can anyone help here? I also need find out the current number of threads per process. Any help or pointers is appreciated? Thanks, Ernesto

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Unable to compile qt

by Olu Akins

I get this error while trying to compile qt any insights /home/tsunami/kde3.3: unknown argument The specified system/compiler is not supported: /home/tsunami/konstruct/libs/qt-x11-free/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.3/mkspecs/-prefix Please see the PLATFORMS file for a complete list. make: *** [configure-work/qt-x11-free-3.3.3/configure] Error 2

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FC3: kernel panic on first boot

by Robin Bowes

Hi, I posted this to the fedora-list but perhaps it is more appropriate here: First some system details: Epox EP-D3VA motherboard dual 1Ghz PIII processors 1.5GB RAM 2 x Promise SATA150 TX4 controllers 6 x Maxtor Maxline II 250GB SATA HDDs (3 per controller) The drives are all partitioned identically with two partitions: 1.5GB + 248.5GB. The partitions are configured in raid arrays as follows: /dev/md0: /dev/sd[ad]1 / (root filesystem) /dev/md1: /dev/sd[be]1 swap /dev/md2: /dev/sd[cf]1 swap /dev/md5: /dev/sd[abcdef]2 lvm2 volume /home, /usr, and /var are mounted as lvm2 logical volumnes on the /dev/md5 array. I was running FC2. I then decided to upgrade to FC3. I booted from the DVD (the media check completed OK) and went through the system upgrade. All seemed to go well and I rebooted. However, the boot process halted with the following message: Loading ext3.ko module md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. Creating root device Mounting root filesystem EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock mount: error 22 mounting ext3 mount: error 2 mounting none Switching to new root switchroot: mount failed: 22 umount /initrd/dev failed: 2 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! This is with the default 2.6.9-1.667smp kernel. I booted into rescue mode and chrooted into the upgraded system - all seems fine, i.e. all the filesystems are OK. I then upgraded all the packages using "yum upgrade" within the chroot environment. This installed kernel-2.6.9-1.681_FC3smp. I rebooted and got the same error as above. I also tried "downgrading" to a 2.6.8 kernel but got the same error. Am I hitting the known bug [1] with SATA drives in the 2.6.9 kernel ? Or is this some other problem? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=140367 Can anyone shed any light on this problem? Thanks, R.

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[Fwd: Kudos, Congratulation and Many Thanks]

by Nils Philippsen

Hi everybody, I got a very encouraging mail praising Fedora and I'd like to share it with you because I think the praise belongs to all the developers, testers and other contributors, not just to those who can't keep their mouths shut like me ;-). Nils -------- Forwarded Message -------- 1 December 2004 Mr. Nils Phillippsen Red Hat.com Dear Mr. Phillippsen: I apologize for making you the victim of this message, but you seem to be relatively high profile in the Red Hat Linux development community. I believe that many thank yous, plaudits and congratulations are due your team. Fedora Core simply keeps improving and improving. I am a relative neophyte to Linux. I came in through the back door, if you will. A friend of mine is in the hospitality business and the franchisor imposed upon the franchisees a DOS software system written in 1986 and running in Caldera Linux. The problem is that the franchisees had no control over any program matters and the franchisor was constantly downloading private information and selling this to any buyer. The information included credit card information and cases of fraud arose. I asked my friend to send me a complete image of his fixed disk. While awaiting the arrival of this, I purchased the Red Hat Linux Bible, which came with Fedora Core 1. This was my introduction to Linux. I loaded the image on one fixed disk and Fedora on another. I was able to, “look-in,” on the Caldera system to obtain the information I needed. I was able to change the root password on the Caldera system and lock the franchisor out of my friend's system. The, because of the fraudulent activities, I was able to supply system logs, find dead end dialing numbers for the purpose of elevating toll charges and remove the auto- dialer. After this experience, I upgraded to Linux. I have five computers, plus one business computer. These I networked, some on wireless (11.02g) and some by cable with T1 access. I knew Windows had problems, but it was not until I became familiar with the never-ending features of Linux, that I realized the extent of Windows shortcomings (I am being nice). I had converted to Mozilla as soon as it was available for Windows, so I eliminated the problems of IE6. The most amazing Linus surprise was in the transfer of files. My business program is in DOS. To transfer 700 files via the Windows network, takes 14 minutes. Linux transfers the same data in less than a minute. So, I run both SAMBA and NFS. The GIMP is every bit the equal of Photoshop and Corel PhotoPaint, both of which I have. OpenOffice is a great word processor. The only program I miss from Windows is MAGIX Samplitude and Audio Studio. These have superb sound manipulation and equalizers. I am not aware of any such equalizers available for Linux. I have three HP Photosmart printers which I hope to send aboard the next NASA deep space exploration vehicle. I hope aliens do not find these printers. They will think we are not as advance a society as they may have presumed. Linux and CUPS actually make the HP printers function in an acceptable manner, so I am considering a reprieve for the HP's, thanks to Linux. I will not bore you with other details. I merely thank you again for the fine work you and your team is doing with FC 2 And FC 3, both of which I use. The only issue is with “eggcups.” Sincerely, John MacEwan -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

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anaconda crash mounting sysimage (rawhide 2004-12-01)

by G.Wolfe Woodbury

I just filed a bugzilla report with an anaconda crash for ix86 architecture rawhide. #1471570 Traceback inidicates a bad argument to the mount call for the new sysimage device. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury `- -' RHCT U The Line Eater is a boojum!

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Warnings in PKGORDER.....

by Hewitt,William P - JSC

Hi, I am trying to build an iso of fedora core 3 with the rpm updates up to today and while I am running the pkgorder script, I am getting a slew of warnings and an occasional removal when running pkgorder....: examples: warning: ignore package name relation(s) [42] cyrus-sasl -> openldap warning: initscripts-7.93.5-1 Requires: /sbin/nash warning: removing mkinitrd-4.1.18-2 "Requires: lvm2" from tsort relations. warning: mkinitrd-4.1.18-2 Requires: lvm2 warning: removing lvm2-2.00.25-1.01 "Requires: kernel >= 2.6" from tsort relations. What is this saying exactly? Should I be concerned? When all is said and done - I build a CD with the disk 1 ISO and boot to test the CD, I get a kernel panick.... But all I have done is updated the rpms with the new ones from updates (I havent added any packages yet)....... My understanding is that I dont need to do anything to comps.xml if I am not adding or deleting anything - is this correct? I havent touched comps.xml.... Can anyone out there give me a clue as to where to look to find out how to fix this? WPH

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New Kernel Versions

by Joel Rittvo

Could someone please explain (or point me to an explanation of) the alternate builds released for the newest test kernel? Specifically: kernel compiled for Xen guest0 VM operations kernel compiled for unprivileged Xen guest VMs Thanks. Joel Rittvo

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Latest kernel

by Paul F. Johnson

Hi, I've done an update and the 1008_FC4 kernel gives me a pre error on install. Anyone else seeing this or is it my machine? TTFN Paul -- "I'm gonna hit the highway like a bat out of hell with a Cilla Black fan on the bike" - Meatloaf

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