try to stay polite
by Roger Grosswiler
i successfully installed fc2-test2 yesterday - with a lot of pain in my stomach because of much flaming words in here.
If just everybody tries to understand:
- What testers need ;-)
-> a installable test-distro
-> a forum where they can wine out their problems
-> a developper that listens to the whining tester and tries to bring it up working
- What developpers need ;-)
-> a new challenge ;-) , good nevers and a lot of tempo-tissues for the tester
-> a tester, which said, how he could or even not install his distro, what kind of problems he saw
-> good information for continuing devlopping and bug-haunting, so Fedora Core 2 gets the most used and best distro
ever :-)
...just imagine, everybody here (hopefully) is a human being, a logical follow-up of personal attacks just blocks the
opposite. I do this joking, i know that my "work" in here is not that much. Others spend perhaps their life for this.
So, to everybody, don't be ignorant on ohters, even if you are frustrated like hell - just try to tell it polite. Or
would you speak the same way, discussing this face to face?? This is just called RESPECT.
Sorry,
Roger
btw. will try to deliver something productive if i find the time...
20 years, 1 month
FC2 test2 is a BAD joke
by Jean Francois Martinez
Let's summarize:
1) CD doesn't boot, no it is not the computer it has booted from CD
hundreds of times, it is not the ISO I checksummed it and it is not the
CD since I reburned it
After burning the boot.iso contained in CD1 and booting from it I find
2) If I select "install from CD" it prompts me for a driver. For an IDE
CD reader.
And if I try to select one of the proposed drivers it proposes
neither the plain driver for IDE, or the driver for the SCSI card
controlling my CD burner. The only thing it proposes is drivers for
Raid cards and similar equipment used by MARTIANS.
3) If I select "install from hard disk" it also prompts me for a driver
for my perfectly normal IDE disks. And it also proposes exotic
equipment who doesn't exist on planet earth where most people don't
use RAID
4) If I select "install from NFS" it also prompts me for an ethrnet
driver (despite having found and loaded the driver for my ethernet card
like evidenced by switching console) and guess what? It does not
propose the driver for my card, yes that one it had loaded, and AFAIK
one who is found in very shop.
At this point I got really angry about Fedora: no matter how beta a
released distro it is supposed to complete its install and this one
doesn't even start it.
--
Jean Francois Martinez <jfm512(a)free.fr>
20 years, 1 month
Where are the libgimp RPMS?
by Mark Haney
I'm trying to update FC2T2 and i"m getting a dependency error with xsane,
etc wanting libgimp-1.3, anyone have an idea where they are? I can't find
them on the CDs or any of the mirrors.
--
Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?
Mark Haney
Development, Systems and Network Administration
DoctorDirectory.com
http://www.doctordirectory.com
20 years, 1 month
DVD iso too big ?
by Féliciano Matias
FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso is bigger than 4 Go.
examples :
$ wget -d http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/... 2>&1 | tee log
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified) on linux-gnu.
--19:26:37-- http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/...
=> `FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso.1'
Resolving mirror.clarkson.edu... 128.153.144.19
Caching mirror.clarkson.edu => 128.153.144.19
Connecting to mirror.clarkson.edu[128.153.144.19]:80... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x8cb3d50 (new refcount 1).
---request begin---
GET /pub/distributions/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/iso/FC2-test2-i386-DVD.iso HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified)
Host: mirror.clarkson.edu
Accept: */*
Connection: Keep-Alive
---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:26:38 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.28 (Unix) (Gentoo/Linux) PHP/4.3.2
Last-Modified: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT
ETag: "13b000d-a88000-406355a4"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 11042816 <==========================
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Found mirror.clarkson.edu in host_name_addresses_map (0x8cb3d50)
Registered fd 3 for persistent reuse.
Length: 11,042,816 [application/octet-stream] <===========================
The same thing append with
ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com//pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.91/i386/is... .
Real size : 4306010112
Size view by wget : 11042816 (4306010112 - 2^32)
20 years, 1 month
Updating
by Paul F. Johnson
Hi,
Anyone know the reason for these
1. Why it takes so long to do an update - I'm talking the installed
reckoning on 300+ minutes to do the update!
2. Why the installer always fails on xorg-x11, yet I can install it
manually (the installer reports bad media, hardware fault or out of
memory)?
I'm upgrading from FC1 to FC2t2 on the laptop (generic Celeron 1.2,
256Mb memory (reports 192 as 64Mb is shared with the video) - FC1
installed like a blast on it)
TTFN
Paul
--
"Discovery is, in it's essence, a matter of re-arranging or transforming
evidence in such a way that one is enabled to go beyond the evidence so
re-assembled to additional new insights" - Bruner
20 years, 1 month
Re: FC2 test2 does not boot from CD
by Ed Fletcher
At 09:01 PM 3/29/04 -0800, someone wrote:
>I too can not get the CD to boot... when I have no problem in the past
>with booting from various CDs including FC2Test1 and FC1.
Same as the rest - had to boot from FC1T1 disk and switch to FC2T2 disk at
the first prompt. Install seems to go fine from there. (Won't boot to X
but it installed. I had better luck with T1.)
Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7VM400M-P with Award bios v6.00PG dated
2003/11/24 (latest). I have no IDE hard disks, just two SATA disks and an
LG DVD/CD burner GSA-4081B on the secondary IDE bus.
Managed to boot a Compaq Evo N800c laptop and an older (Athlon 750) desktop
with FC2T2 Disk 1 though.
I've entered this on Bugzilla.
Ed
--
Ed Fletcher
ed(a)fletcher.ca
"Ignorance more frequently begets
confidence than does knowledge."
- Charles Darwin
20 years, 1 month
FC2 test2 does not boot from CD
by Jean Francois Martinez
Was Test2 supposed to be bootable from CD?
I have tried on several boxes, (and yes the bootparms) are right in
the Bios, and this thing does not boot.
I reburned the image and still the same
I also notice there are no images for booting from floppy or for network
installations, except for PXE so if you don't have a box capable
of booting from the Internet you are out
--
Jean Francois Martinez <jfm512(a)free.fr>
20 years, 1 month
FC2 test2 bugs
by Rio Baan
Just installed test2 on a rack server for testing. Nice to see SELinux, and
the IPsec tools in there.
loaded up KDE... no sound card in the rack server, so I got the "error while
initialising sound driver" message. The OK button didn't work on the window,
and then it seemed to turn into some "Information - artsmessage" X window
which just hung there and couldn't be closed.
After that, the whole desktop just hung after I hit the red hat start
button.
Still waiting to test test2 on sata raid.....
Also, did the game Kgoldrunner only work on KDE? Cause it's not working in
Gnome... ;)
Here's a message I got in root's mailbox on first boot:
>From root(a)localhost.localdomain Wed Mar 31 13:45:02 2004
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:45:01 +0900
From: root(a)localhost.localdomain (Cron Daemon)
To: root(a)localhost.localdomain
Subject: Cron <root@test2> /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg
X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/sh>
X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/root>
X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/usr/bin:/bin>
X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=root>
Use of uninitialized value in string at /usr/bin/mrtg line 72.
Empty compile time value given to use lib at /usr/bin/mrtg line 72
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/mrtg
line 73.
Can't locate MRTG_lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /../lib/mrtg2
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/bin/mrtg line 78.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/mrtg line 78.
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20 years, 1 month
Boot Error with SELinux
by Ed Fletcher
I've managed to install FC2T2 (after doing the boot disk swap with
T1). The install completed with no errors. However, I cannot boot the
machine at all.
This is from the boot sequence. Everything is normal through the Bogomips
check. Then I get:
Quote
Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux: Initializing
SELinux: Starting in permissive mode
There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed
Failure registering capabilities with the kernel
selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module security
Unquote
Then a bunch more normal messages including many
SELinux initialized (dev, type [futexfs | socksfs | proc | bdev] etc)
And lastly
Quote
INIT: version 2.85 booting
audit(1080597019.563:0): avc: denied {getattr} for pid=1 exe=/sbin/init
path=/dev/initctl dev=hdg9
Unquote
These audit message are about three lines of text each. And they scroll
repeatedly across my screen. I get some green OK's and a few red FAILED's
but then it goes to screen after screen of audit messages.
hdg9 is my root partition, BTW. That's the way it was for test 1 so I
didn't change the partition layout.
I'll put this into Bugzilla if anyone knows the tracking number. (I'm sure
it's been reported and I'd like to avoid logging a duplicate.)
Sorry if the above boot messages aren't verbatim. I had to copy them by hand.
Ed
--
Ed Fletcher
ed(a)fletcher.ca
"Ignorance more frequently begets
confidence than does knowledge."
- Charles Darwin
20 years, 1 month
Two errors with new install- SELinux
by Jim Cornette
I installed FC2T2 and found out that 105 packages needed to be upgrade.
I then tried to upgrade with up2date using the mirror seeking feature.
The first mirror (kernel.org) said the system was up2date. Running
up2date again produced the dep problem in the up2date-problem file attached.
The alert dialog box was encountered when I initially tried to receive
mail from my ISP server (SMTP) I can create new mail alright though. The
.mozilla directory with the email accounts were copied from a backup
from another installation that I burned the CDRs on.
I also checked out the clock-applet and it still segfaults as did devel
fail.
As a note about the theory about FC2T1 (still using xfree86 and 20
upgrades behind, FYI) having issues with burning CDRs. I burned the
FC2T2 disks with xcdroast for disks 1-4 (RPMS). Disk 4 was a bad burn. I
then burned it again with nautilus cd burning feature successfully.
I needed to do a clean install. I didn't think that it would be so many
upgraded packages behind development though.
Whenusing usermount (Disk Management), SELinux still gives an error as
pasted below:
There are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount or unmount.
Contact your administrator.
All the bugs for development that I encountered are still there. The
clean install works fine otherwise.
Jim
There was a package dependency problem. The message was:
Unresolvable chain of dependencies:
dvgrab 1.5-1 requires libdv.so.2
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimp-1.3.so.26
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimpbase-1.3.so.26
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimpcolor-1.3.so.26
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimpmath-1.3.so.26
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimpmodule-1.3.so.26
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimpui-1.3.so.26
gimp-print-plugin 4.2.6-9 requires libgimpwidgets-1.3.so.26
gstreamer-plugins 0.8.0-1 requires libdv.so.2
gtkam-gimp 0.1.10-2.1 requires libgimp-1.3.so.26
gtkam-gimp 0.1.10-2.1 requires libgimpbase-1.3.so.26
gtkam-gimp 0.1.10-2.1 requires libgimpcolor-1.3.so.26
gtkam-gimp 0.1.10-2.1 requires libgimpmath-1.3.so.26
gtkam-gimp 0.1.10-2.1 requires libgimpui-1.3.so.26
gtkam-gimp 0.1.10-2.1 requires libgimpwidgets-1.3.so.26
pwlib 1.6.3-2 requires libdv.so.2
xsane-gimp 0.92-7 requires libgimp-1.3.so.26
xsane-gimp 0.92-7 requires libgimpbase-1.3.so.26
xsane-gimp 0.92-7 requires libgimpcolor-1.3.so.26
xsane-gimp 0.92-7 requires libgimpmath-1.3.so.26
xsane-gimp 0.92-7 requires libgimpui-1.3.so.26
xsane-gimp 0.92-7 requires libgimpwidgets-1.3.so.26
Please modify your package selections and try again.
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20 years, 1 month
