Re: fedora-test-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: x freezes, cannot do anything in level 5 (Michal Jaegermann)
   2. F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run (Mike Cloaked)
   3. Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run (Jos Vos)
   4. Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
      (Mike Cloaked)
   5. Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
      (Mike Cloaked)
   6. Reminder: Bug Triage Meeting Tomorrow (Tuesday) @ 15:00 UTC
      (John Poelstra)
   7. Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
      (john maclean)
   8. Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
      (Michal Jaegermann)
   9. RE: IRQ Conflict (Curtis George)
  10. Openchrome Testers Requested Update (Jon Nettleton)
  11. rawhide report: 20090106 changes (Rawhide Report)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:52:53 -0700
From: Michal Jaegermann <michal(a)harddata.com&gt;
Subject: Re: x freezes, cannot do anything in level 5
To: olivares14031(a)yahoo.com, For testers of Fedora Core development
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 05:47:20AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>  I have a machine in which X does not work. 
....
>  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
>  RV100 QY [Radeon7000/VE] 
I had big troubles with recent ati driver/Xserver combo.  To that
extent that my old monitor used in tests got damaged (most likely
by this driver although I cannot be absolutely sure).

Various details at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478608

As for now I backed off to binaries from F10 to have something to
look at.  That likely requires also replacing xorg-x11-drv-evdev,
which I have not done, or xorg.conf changes. Otherwise you will
loose your keyboard and a mouse.

    Michal



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:12:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com&gt;
Subject: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
To: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com
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I have seen quite a lot of bugzilla reports concerning graphical install as
well as running X issues with 82845, and some 82945, graphics chipsets, and
some reports go back to F8 days and seem were never resolved even up to F10.

I have two machines (one with each of these chipsets) and need to update
them to F10 using a clean install.  On one machine (which has 82845G) the
graphical install failed as soon as the graphical part of the boot started
during an install attempt earlier today.

Does anyone have a workaround to get machines with these graphics chipsets
installed?  By the way I used a home-spun re-spin of the DVD iso for the
install that includes all updates to 3rd January 09. I have not seen any
further updates appear since that time so this is as up to date as I can
find at the moment.

The problem appears to be in the newer xorg-x11-drv-i810 driver so any
information about progress in this direction would be appreciated.


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:20:40 +0100
From: Jos Vos <jos(a)xos.nl&gt;
Subject: Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:12:57PM -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:

>  I have seen quite a lot of bugzilla reports concerning graphical
> install as
>  well as running X issues with 82845, and some 82945, graphics chipsets, and
>  some reports go back to F8 days and seem were never resolved even up to F10.
>  
>  I have two machines (one with each of these chipsets) and need to update
>  them to F10 using a clean install.  On one machine (which has 82845G) the
>  graphical install failed as soon as the graphical part of the boot started
>  during an install attempt earlier today. 
See also <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473101>;.
This problem with Intel 82915G/GV/910GL is probably the same.

At least on RHEL5 this still works, with F9 and F10 (I don't remember
if I tried F8) it doesn't work anymore.

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:35:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
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Jos Vos wrote:
>  
>  On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:12:57PM -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>  
> > I have seen quite a lot of bugzilla reports concerning graphical install
> > as
> > well as running X issues with 82845, and some 82945, graphics chipsets,
> > and
> > some reports go back to F8 days and seem were never resolved even up to
> > F10.
> > 
> > I have two machines (one with each of these chipsets) and need to update
> > them to F10 using a clean install.  On one machine (which has 82845G) the
> > graphical install failed as soon as the graphical part of the boot
> > started
> > during an install attempt earlier today.
>  
>  See also <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473101>;.
>  This problem with Intel 82915G/GV/910GL is probably the same.
>  
>  At least on RHEL5 this still works, with F9 and F10 (I don't remember
>  if I tried F8) it doesn't work anymore.
>  
>   
Maybe 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429500
is related?

This suggests that i810 might work where vesa and intel drivers do not?
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:52:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
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Mike Cloaked wrote:
>  
>  
>  Maybe 
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429500
>  is related?
>  
>  This suggests that i810 might work where vesa and intel drivers do not?
>   
A very recent reply to that bz suggests that a fix may already be in the
kernel updates to F10 for 945 chipsets - and since I do have the newest
kernel in my install iso, I should be able to check that when I return to
the machine in the next day or so, but in the meantime I would really
appreciate it if anyone can confirm a good working install for F10 on a
machine with 82945G graphics?

Thanks
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:02:57 -0800
From: John Poelstra <poelstra(a)redhat.com&gt;
Subject: Reminder: Bug Triage Meeting Tomorrow (Tuesday) @ 15:00 UTC
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
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Bug Triage Meeting
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
Tuesday @ 15:00 UTC/10 AM EST

Agenda

1) Reviewing the follow-up actions from last meeting:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2008-Dec-16

2) Discuss goals we would like to set and meet for the Fedora 11 Release 
Cycle.  I'd like to suggest we pick "SMART" goals:
S - specific
M - measurable
A - agreed on
R - relevant
T - timely (can be completed during Fedora 11)

http://www.projectsmart.co.uk/smart-goals.html

3) Status from comphappy on metrics collection (if he is able to attend)

See you there!

John



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:04:20 +0000
From: "john maclean" <jayeola(a)gmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
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2009/1/5 Mike Cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  Mike Cloaked wrote:
> >
> >
> > Maybe
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429500
> > is related?
> >
> > This suggests that i810 might work where vesa and intel drivers do not?
> >
>
>  A very recent reply to that bz suggests that a fix may already be in the
>  kernel updates to F10 for 945 chipsets - and since I do have the newest
>  kernel in my install iso, I should be able to check that when I return to
>  the machine in the next day or so, but in the meantime I would really
>  appreciate it if anyone can confirm a good working install for F10 on a
>  machine with 82945G graphics?
>
>  Thanks
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I installed FC10 on an IBM Thinkpad x30. 82830 chipset or there
abouts. I did a text installation and used this xorg config [0].
Worked. Hope that helps you.

[0]  http://n2.nabble.com/Problem-with-xorg-x11-drv-i810-on-Fedora-10-td159776...

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:27:18 -0700
From: Michal Jaegermann <michal(a)harddata.com&gt;
Subject: Re: F10 and Intel 82845/82945 graphics install and run
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:12:57PM -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>  
>  I have seen quite a lot of bugzilla reports concerning graphical install as
>  well as running X issues with 82845, and some 82945, graphics chipsets, and
>  some reports go back to F8 days and seem were never resolved even up to F10. 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469292

>  I have two machines (one with each of these chipsets) and need to
> update
>  them to F10 using a clean install. 
Use 'xdriver=vesa' in boot parameters or a text install.  Follow
up with a workaround described in the referenced report.

>  On one machine (which has 82845G) the
>  graphical install failed as soon as the graphical part of the boot started
>  during an install attempt earlier today. 
Most likely a display driver went into an infinite loop as detailed
in bugzilla.

    Michal



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:43:54 -0800
From: Curtis George <rhlinux123(a)hotmail.com&gt;
Subject: RE: IRQ Conflict
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I found that using the noirqdebug kernel option seems to be the catch-all solution to this
problem.  The description of this kernel option is: "By default, the kernel attempts
to detect and disable unhandled
	interrupt sources because they can cause problems with the
	responsiveness of the rest of the kernel if left unchecked. This
	option will disable this logic."  Basically this no longer displays the IRQ Disabled
message and does not disable the IRQ at all.

So, it seems like there is an unhandled interrupt which in causing the kernel to disable
the IRQ, causing the devices to hang up.  Others have fixed the problem by
disabling/re-configuring the device causing the unhandled interrupt.  My question is why
is the kernel not handling the interrupt?

I did mention the hardware involved in my first message, but specifically I have a stock
Dell SC1420 with a Highpoint RAID 2322 add on card.  My USB device, NIC, and RAID card are
sharing an IRQ and after some time the kernel disables that IRQ and the system becomes
unresponsive.  For other people the symtpoms they've seen depend on which devices were
involved in the diabled IRQ.

I don't have the ability to change any IRQ assignments in my BIOS.

- Curtis George

>  Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:32:35 +0900
>  From: debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org
>  To: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com
>  Subject: Re: IRQ Conflict
>  
>  Curtis George wrote:
>  > Thanks for the info, I have discovered some interesting things recently.  I went
> ahead and reverted to Fedora 9 since I knew that one worked for me and found that the IRQ
> is being shared by the same 3 devices.  I then updated the kernel on Fedora 9 to 2.6.27
> (which is also what Fedora 10 starts out with) and got the same IRQ disabled messages and
> sure enough my computer locked up within a few minutes of booting that kernel.  Luckily I
> still had the 2.6.25 kernel installed, so I booted into that one instead.  
>  > 
>  > Does this mean there is a possible problem with the 2.6.27 kernel?  What is the
> actual cause of this problem?
>  > 
>  > If you do a google search on Linux IRQ Disabled you will find that this problem has
> existed in various forms without identifying the actual cause.  I should mention that I
> cannot move around my devices (they are either builtin or using the only compatible slot).
>  I also do not have a disable PnP OS option in BIOS.  I also saw a suggestion to change
> the SATA mode to AHCI in BIOS instead of IDE, but I don't have that option either (for
> me only RAID or non-RAID).  This worked from some, but I think in their case the ata
> device was involved in the interrupt that was being disabled.
>  
>  Likely, if there's no more serious problem than the message folk don't 
>  notice it and/or simply ignore it.
>  
>  Do you have an option to change IRQ assignments in the BIOS?
>  
>  
>  I don't recall that you've mentioned anything about the hardware. There 
>  are some pointers in my sig to "asking good questions."  Many problems 
>  arise on a small set of hardware or in rare circumstances. You are our 
>  eyes, and if you don't give us the information we're blind, and a lot of 
>  people will ignore you.
>  
>  > 
>  > - Curtis George
>  > 
>  >> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:03:14 +0900
>  >> From: debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org
>  >> To: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com
>  >> Subject: Re: IRQ Conflict
>  >>
>  >> Mick M. wrote:
>  >>>> I'm guessing that when I installed Fedora 9 with all
>  >>>> the USB unplugged that is chose differet IRQs so there was
>  >>>> no confilict (I'm not sure though).  I can't
>  >>>> manually set the IRQ on any of these devices, it seems to be
>  >>>> up to the OS to choose.  Any ideas on what is causing this
>  >>>> or how to fix it?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> - Curtis George
>  >>>>
>  >>> Hi;
>  >>>   try moving cards around to different slots.
>  >>> Some motherboards assign irq's to specific slots.
>  >>> Then some cards only work with certain irq's.
>  >>>
>  >>> On bootup you may see what irq goes where.
>  >>> You may be able to play in the BIOS to help out.
>  >> PCI interrupts are supposed to be sharable. There are four interrupts, 
>  >> INT#A through INT#D which can be mapped to ISA interrupts any way the 
>  >> BIOS or OS likes.
>  >>
>  >> If the PCI interrupts on your system are not sharable, then the system's 
>  >> broken.
>  >>
>  >> If your BIOS has asks about a PnP OS, change it and try that. Generally, 
>  >> I say I have one, have said so since 2.4 kernels.
>  >>
>  >> If that does not work, say "no" and try assigning some IRQs in the
> BIOS.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Shuffling cards might help, but most of my systems' PCI slots are empty.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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