Holy cow, what incredibly pointless bickering.

Grow up and act like adults, please. All of you. On both sides of the issue.

You're all right.

GNOME 3 is going to be awesome. People are working really hard on it, and what they're creating is really sweet.

When it ships, it will be missing a lot of functionality that was in GNOME 2, functionality that people have come to expect and rely on. People are right to be disappointed about the missing functionality. People are entitled to hold the opinion that the missing functionality is significant enough that the GNOME 3 desktop shouldn't ship without it.

The people who want to ship as-is ought to be listening to what the people on the other side are saying, and asking themselves, "Does the level of discontent we are seeing indicate that there are enough people who are going to be upset enough about the missing functionality that we shouldn't ship without it (i.e., either stay with GNOME 2 or delay the release of Fedora 15)?"

The people who don't want to ship as-is ought to be listening to what the people on the other side are saying, and asking themselves, "Is it perhaps better to ship as-is and cope with the missing functionality temporarily, until it catches up with GNOME 3, for the sake of getting the major improvements in GNOME 3 out into the field for people to use and not incurring the substantial additional cost of either delaying Fedora 15 or making people do a ton of work to downgrade to GNOME 2?"

You all should be asking these questions in a mature and civil fashion, not bickering like eight-year-olds. And certainly not telling people you disagree with to shut up.

Assume good faith.

  jik