On 2021-11-08 9:31 a.m., Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:25 AM Frantisek Zatloukal
<fzatlouk(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 3:05 PM Kamil Paral <kparal(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> "dnf install foo bar"
> This is a single operation, comparable to having multiple packages installed via
graphical package manager, not scheduling multiple operations at once. It would be the
same If a graphical package manager offered to select multiple packages/applications and
then start the transaction.
>
> "dnf install foo; dnf install bar"
> This is equivalent to:
> 1. Open Graphical package manager
> 2. Install foo
> 3. Close Graphical package manager
> 4. Open Graphical package manager
> 5. Install bar
> 6. Close Graphical package manager
>
> dnfdragora supports doing install + upgrade + removal in the same
> transaction. This is equivalent to using "dnf shell" to construct a
> transaction in the CLI.
>
> It is technically possible to do this with PackageKit too, but neither
> Discover nor Software expose this as far as I know.
Did I miss something in this thread? Given that the current Gnome
graphical package manager requires a full and expensive reboot in
between every install for virtually every package for mostly-defective
reasons, how would you actually install two packages sequentially like
that? Are you suggesting that the current and IMHO
poorly-thought-through package manager be finally replaced? If so,
hoorah!!!
I'm all for stealing the code from tracer or the Ubuntu installer to
identify what needs restarting, and maybe putting out a flag to prevent
bug submissions while the running packages are not up-to-date. I
believe that would completely eliminate the mandatory reboots, and allow
the package manager to move forward properly.