Sound on F8t3

[John Summerfield]

I was fully updated yesterday. Today, the mirrors seem broken;-(


I'm using KDE desktop, and sound does not work on my HP DC7000 SFF.

Except that when I choose K/Administration/Sound card detection, it 
works very well.

I've been playing with Control Center (kcontrol). The first time, I 
chose it from the KDE menu, and when I chose sound, it locked up and had 
to be terminated with force.

Subsequently I've run it from within konsole, and it does not lock up, 
but it doesn't play sound either.

I do get an artsmessage, to the effect
"Sound system informational message" (yeah right, "does not work" is 
informational?)
"Error while initialising the sound driver"
"device: default cannot be opened for playback (connection refused)"
"The sound system will continue, using the null device."

Further testing:
Autodetect doesn't.
OSS works.
ALSA does not.
ESD does not.

Is this something I should mention to BZ?




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[Chuck Ebbert]

On 10/31/2007 04:45 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
>  
>  I was fully updated yesterday. Today, the mirrors seem broken;-(
>  
>  
>  I'm using KDE desktop, and sound does not work on my HP DC7000 SFF.
>  
>  Except that when I choose K/Administration/Sound card detection, it
>  works very well.
>  
>  I've been playing with Control Center (kcontrol). The first time, I
>  chose it from the KDE menu, and when I chose sound, it locked up and had
>  to be terminated with force.
>  
>  Subsequently I've run it from within konsole, and it does not lock up,
>  but it doesn't play sound either.
>  
>  I do get an artsmessage, to the effect
>  "Sound system informational message" (yeah right, "does not work" is
>  informational?)
>  "Error while initialising the sound driver"
>  "device: default cannot be opened for playback (connection refused)"
>  "The sound system will continue, using the null device."
>  
>  Further testing:
>  Autodetect doesn't.
>  OSS works.
>  ALSA does not.
>  ESD does not.
>   
Either erase pulseaudio and pulseaudio-plugins-alsa, or install
kde-settings-pulseaudio.

[John Summerfield]

Chuck Ebbert wrote:
>  On 10/31/2007 04:45 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
> > I was fully updated yesterday. Today, the mirrors seem broken;-(
> >
> >
> > I'm using KDE desktop, and sound does not work on my HP DC7000 SFF.
> >
> > Except that when I choose K/Administration/Sound card detection, it
> > works very well.
> >
> > I've been playing with Control Center (kcontrol). The first time, I
> > chose it from the KDE menu, and when I chose sound, it locked up and had
> > to be terminated with force.
> >
> > Subsequently I've run it from within konsole, and it does not lock up,
> > but it doesn't play sound either.
> >
> > I do get an artsmessage, to the effect
> > "Sound system informational message" (yeah right, "does not work"
> is
> > informational?)
> > "Error while initialising the sound driver"
> > "device: default cannot be opened for playback (connection refused)"
> > "The sound system will continue, using the null device."
> >
> > Further testing:
> > Autodetect doesn't.
> > OSS works.
> > ALSA does not.
> > ESD does not.
> >
>  
>  Either erase pulseaudio and pulseaudio-plugins-alsa, or install
>  kde-settings-pulseaudio.
>   
I'd prefer to have this work, so install kde-settings-pulseaudio, but I 
don't see such a package.



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[Rahul Sundaram]

John Summerfield wrote:

>  
>  I'd prefer to have this work, so install kde-settings-pulseaudio, but I 
>  don't see such a package. 
Available in the repository.

# yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio

Available Packages
Name   : kde-settings-pulseaudio
Arch   : noarch
Version: 3.5
Release: 34.fc8
Size   : 6.5 k
Repo   : fedora
Summary: Enable pulseaudio support
Description:
Enable pulseaudio support.

Rahul

[John Summerfield]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>  John Summerfield wrote:
>  
> >
> > I'd prefer to have this work, so install kde-settings-pulseaudio, but 
> > I don't see such a package.
>  
>  Available in the repository.
>  
>  # yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio
>  
>  Available Packages
>  Name   : kde-settings-pulseaudio
>  Arch   : noarch
>  Version: 3.5
>  Release: 34.fc8
>  Size   : 6.5 k
>  Repo   : fedora
>  Summary: Enable pulseaudio support
>  Description:
>  Enable pulseaudio support.
>  
>  Rahul
>   
[root@potoroo ~]# yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio
Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
fedora                    100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    00:00
updates                   100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    00:00
Error: No matching Packages to list
[root@potoroo ~]#

What do I need to change?


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[Rahul Sundaram]

John Summerfield wrote:

> >
>  [root@potoroo ~]# yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio
>  Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
>  fedora                    100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    00:00
>  updates                   100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    00:00
>  Error: No matching Packages to list
>  [root@potoroo ~]#
>  
>  What do I need to change? 
What is the yum repository settings in /etc/yum.repos.d. Have you 
enabled the development repository? If you can't figure it out, you can 
download it from http://koji.fedoraproject.org

Rahul

[John Summerfield]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>  John Summerfield wrote:
>  
> >>
> > [root@potoroo ~]# yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio
> > Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
> > fedora                    100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    
> > 00:00
> > updates                   100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    
> > 00:00
> > Error: No matching Packages to list
> > [root@potoroo ~]#
> >
> > What do I need to change?
>  
>  What is the yum repository settings in /etc/yum.repos.d. Have you 
>  enabled the development repository? If you can't figure it out, you can 
>  download it from http://koji.fedoraproject.org
>  
>  Rahul
>   
I haven't changed anything, I'm trying to be a dumb user;-) If I futz 
around to make it work, it doesn't help others much. If we can figure 
what's wrong, then it might get fixed properly.

Er, why would it be in the development repo? I'm not building software.


[root@potoroo ~]# egrep -i '^(name|enabled)' /etc/yum.repos.d/*
/etc/yum.repos.d/Fedora-install-media.repo:name=Fedora 7.92
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:name=Fedora - Development
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:name=Fedora - Development - Debug
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:name=Fedora - Development - Source
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - 
$basearch - Test Updates
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - 
$basearch - Test Updates Debug
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - 
Test Updates Source
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch 
- Updates
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch 
- Updates - Debug
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - Updates 
Source
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Debug
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - Source
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=0
[root@potoroo ~]# ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   69 Oct 22 15:37 
/etc/yum.repos.d/Fedora-install-media.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1907 Oct 20 05:32 
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1156 Oct 20 05:32 
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1078 Oct 20 05:32 
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1168 Oct 20 05:32 /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
[root@potoroo ~]#

That goes to show why I haven't seen any updates these past few days.

This is clearer:
[root@potoroo ~]# egrep -i '^(name|enabled=1)' /etc/yum.repos.d/* | grep 
-B1 enabled
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch 
- Updates
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=1
--
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=1
[root@potoroo ~]#


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[Rahul Sundaram]

John Summerfield wrote:

> >
>  I haven't changed anything, I'm trying to be a dumb user;-) If I futz 
>  around to make it work, it doesn't help others much. If we can figure 
>  what's wrong, then it might get fixed properly. 
There really isn't anything to fix. The software is available in the 
repository and many others have confirmed it. Feel feel to use a 
different mirror and run yum clean all to refresh it.

>  Er, why would it be in the development repo? I'm not building
> software. 
Test 3 is a snapshot from the development repository aka rawhide. When 
you install and run yum update you need to have the development 
repository enabled.

Rahul

[John Summerfield]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>  John Summerfield wrote:
>  
> >>
> > I haven't changed anything, I'm trying to be a dumb user;-) If I futz 
> > around to make it work, it doesn't help others much. If we can figure 
> > what's wrong, then it might get fixed properly.
>  
>  There really isn't anything to fix. The software is available in the 
>  repository and many others have confirmed it. Feel feel to use a 
>  different mirror and run yum clean all to refresh it. 
Well, not all the software one needs was available from the install 
sources. What I'm running is, as I understand it, what's proposed to F8.


What repos should I enable _now_ to upgrade to what's in the latest f8 
proposal?



>  
> > Er, why would it be in the development repo? I'm not building software.
>  
>  Test 3 is a snapshot from the development repository aka rawhide. When 
>  you install and run yum update you need to have the development 
>  repository enabled. 
Ah. However,
Installing:
  kde-settings-pulseaudio  noarch     3.5-34.fc8       development 
  6.5 k
Updating for dependencies:
  kde-settings            noarch     3.5-34.fc8       development 
  14 k

Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install      1 Package(s)
Update       1 Package(s)
Remove       0 Package(s)

Total download size: 21 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/Packag...:

[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/Pac...:

[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/Pac...:

[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/Packag...:

[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/Pac...:

[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/Pac...:

[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.


Error Downloading Packages:
   kde-settings-pulseaudio - 3.5-34.fc8.noarch: failure: 
Packages/kde-settings-pulseaudio-3.5-34.fc8.noarch.rpm from development: 
[Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
   kde-settings - 3.5-34.fc8.noarch: failure: 
Packages/kde-settings-3.5-34.fc8.noarch.rpm from development: [Errno 
256] No more mirrors to try.


>  
>  Rahul
>   

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[Jesse Keating]

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:01:44 +0900
John Summerfield <debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org&gt; wrote:

>  What repos should I enable _now_ to upgrade to what's in the
> latest
>  f8 proposal? 
Enable fedora and updates-released.  Make sure you're using the mirror
list and it'll point you to the correct repos.  This will "pin" you to
Fedora 8, and once it's released it will keep you getting F8 updates.

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[John Summerfield]

Jesse Keating wrote:
>  On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:01:44 +0900
>  John Summerfield <debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  
> > What repos should I enable _now_ to upgrade to what's in the latest
> > f8 proposal?
>  
>  Enable fedora and updates-released.  Make sure you're using the mirror
>  list and it'll point you to the correct repos.  This will "pin" you to
>  Fedora 8, and once it's released it will keep you getting F8 updates.
>  
>   
As I mentioned to Rahul, I've not changed the config files since I 
installed, they're standard.

I don't have an updates-released, though I do have updates and 
update-testing:

[root@potoroo ~]# egrep -i '^(\[|enabled=)' /etc/yum.repos.d/* | grep 
-B1 enabled
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:[development]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:[development-debuginfo]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:[development-source]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:[updates-testing]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:[updates-testing-debuginfo]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:[updates-testing-source]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:[updates]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:[updates-debuginfo]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:[updates-source]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:[fedora]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:[fedora-debuginfo]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:[fedora-source]
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=0
[root@potoroo ~]#


As you can see, updates is enabled.
Unfortunately:
[root@potoroo ~]# yum --enable=updates-testing list available
Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors: 
//var/cache/yum/updates-testing/mirrorlist.txt
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: 
updates-testing. Please verify its path and try again
[root@potoroo ~]#

I've tried "yum clean {metadata,dbcache}" to no avail.



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[Jesse Keating]

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:30:09 +0900
John Summerfield <debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org&gt; wrote:

>  As you can see, updates is enabled.
>  Unfortunately:
>  [root@potoroo ~]# yum --enable=updates-testing list available
>  Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
>  removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors: 
>  //var/cache/yum/updates-testing/mirrorlist.txt
>  Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
>  repository: updates-testing. Please verify its path and try again
>  [root@potoroo ~]#
>  
>  I've tried "yum clean {metadata,dbcache}" to no avail. 
updates-testing is not to be enabled at this point.  Only updates.

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[John Summerfield]

Jesse Keating wrote:
>  On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:30:09 +0900
>  John Summerfield <debian(a)herakles.homelinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  
> > As you can see, updates is enabled.
> > Unfortunately:
> > [root@potoroo ~]# yum --enable=updates-testing list available
> > Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
> > removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors: 
> > //var/cache/yum/updates-testing/mirrorlist.txt
> > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
> > repository: updates-testing. Please verify its path and try again
> > [root@potoroo ~]#
> >
> > I've tried "yum clean {metadata,dbcache}" to no avail.
>  
>  updates-testing is not to be enabled at this point.  Only updates.
>  
>  Likely mirrormanager is handing you an out of date mirror :/ 
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John Summerfield schrieb:
>  Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > John Summerfield wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'd prefer to have this work, so install kde-settings-pulseaudio, 
> >> but I don't see such a package.
> >
> > Available in the repository.
> >
> > # yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio
> >
> > Available Packages
> > Name   : kde-settings-pulseaudio
> > Arch   : noarch
> > Version: 3.5
> > Release: 34.fc8
> > Size   : 6.5 k
> > Repo   : fedora
> > Summary: Enable pulseaudio support
> > Description:
> > Enable pulseaudio support.
> >
> > Rahul
> >
>  [root@potoroo ~]# yum info kde-settings-pulseaudio
>  Loading "refresh-updatesd" plugin
>  fedora                    100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    
>  00:00
>  updates                   100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    
>  00:00
>  Error: No matching Packages to list
>  [root@potoroo ~]#
>
>  What do I need to change? 
# yum list kde-set\*
Installed Packages
kde-settings.noarch                      3.5-34.fc8             
installed      
kde-settings-kdm.noarch                  3.5-34.fc8             
installed      
Available Packages
kde-settings-pulseaudio.noarch           3.5-34.fc8             development


enable the repo in   /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-development.repo  or with pirut

or use
# yum --enablerepo=development list kde-\*

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