9:02 a.m.
Hi.
I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
is very low-traffic)?
If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
Regards,
R.
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9:39 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
<D.Mierzejewski(a)icm.edu.pl> wrote:
Hi.
I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
is very low-traffic)?
If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
Regards,
R.
Agree +1
12:06 p.m.
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Adrin Jalali wrote:
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From: Adrin Jalali <adrin.jalali(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: All these XO threads
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
<D.Mierzejewski(a)icm.edu.pl> wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?
>
> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
>
> Regards,
> R.
>
Agree +1
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12:13 p.m.
i find this thread annoying and that it's cluttering my mailbox. we get
your point. unless directed by greg to a new mailing list you'll have
to deal with these XO messages until the end of october. it's pretty
easy to click 'delete' if it says 'XO' in the subject.
c
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Adrin Jalali wrote:
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> From: Adrin Jalali <adrin.jalali(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: All these XO threads
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
> <D.Mierzejewski(a)icm.edu.pl> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
>> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
>> is very low-traffic)?
>>
>> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> R.
>>
> Agree +1
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12:31 p.m.
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:13 -0500, Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
i find this thread annoying and that it's cluttering my mailbox. we get
your point. unless directed by greg to a new mailing list you'll have
to deal with these XO messages until the end of october. it's pretty
easy to click 'delete' if it says 'XO' in the subject.
Or maybe read it since it's Fedora on the XOs and the changes needed to
fix issues on the XOs would be changes in Fedora, that everybody would
consume.
The XO userbase is potentially huge, we shouldn't be shunting these
users off to their own list. Problems experienced on the XO are
problems that other people may experience and first-class QA and testing
issues.
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9:42 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
<D.Mierzejewski(a)icm.edu.pl> wrote:
Hi.
I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
is very low-traffic)?
+1 here.
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9:48 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann'
Mierzejewski
<D.Mierzejewski(a)icm.edu.pl> wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?
+1 here.
+1. but can be bought. Will change to -1 for a free XO. ;)
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10:09 a.m.
On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit
annoying.
Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
is very low-traffic)?
From gdk:
3. If you are not already subscribed to the Fedora testing mailing list,
go subscribe now. Test work will be coordinated on that list.
(http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list)
Just doing what I've been told.
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On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:09 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit
> annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?
From gdk:
3. If you are not already subscribed to the Fedora testing mailing list,
go subscribe now. Test work will be coordinated on that list.
(http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list)
Just doing what I've been told.
Me, too. But the request makes sense, so I'd be happy to move if there
were another replacement edict from GDK. After all, this list is full of
annoying posts unrelated to the XO ;)
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11:04 a.m.
+1 too
2008/10/9 Andrew C. Dingman <adingman(a)redhat.com>
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 11:09 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>
> > I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit
> > annoying.
> > Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> > is very low-traffic)?
>
> From gdk:
>
> 3. If you are not already subscribed to the Fedora testing mailing list,
> go subscribe now. Test work will be coordinated on that list.
> (http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list)
>
> Just doing what I've been told.
Me, too. But the request makes sense, so I'd be happy to move if there
were another replacement edict from GDK. After all, this list is full of
annoying posts unrelated to the XO ;)
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12:10 p.m.
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:02 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
Hi.
I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
is very low-traffic)?
+1
If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore
me.
Not so much annoying as frustrating, given that I have no prospect of
being able to get an XO where I am. I suspect the same is true of many
people on this list.
poc
2:17 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:40:52PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:02 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann'
Mierzejewski wrote:
> Hi.
> I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> is very low-traffic)?
bracin
+1
> If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
Not so much annoying as frustremating, given that I have no prospect of
being able to get an XO where I am. I suspect the same is true of many
people on this list.
The key here is the XO folk are embracing fedora. i.e. they are getting on
this train not trying to drive things the other way arround.
The school server will be Fedora with some XO services, backups via rsync and
some class specific material and services like network gateway.
For those in the US the folk at OLPC will have another give-one:get-one program
this fall.. The XO is cute and yes nifty. A serious Linux USER will find it a bit light
on horsepower and memory but marvelous.
As far as a teaching tool goes the software and teaching concepts can
be applied to any laptop not just the XO. The hardware enables the
software as much or more than the other way around.
It has yum,
It has a window manager (matchbox)
It has a desktop (sugar)
It has bash
It has python
It has wireless networking
It has Ctl-Alt-F[123] alternate shell
It has an X server.
It has user accounts...
It has a web browser (firefox)
It has a Fedora kernel...
It has USB ports (three).
It has a mousepad
It has a keyboard....
It has a LCD display with an advantage.
Loading software is different... no DVD/CDROM.
When all is said and done it runs Fedora....
and this is a Fedora list.
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2:55 p.m.
For those in the US the folk at OLPC will have another
give-one:get-one program
this fall.. The XO is cute and yes nifty. A serious Linux USER will find it a bit
light
on horsepower and memory but marvelous.
Through amazon none the less and starting on Nov 17th. Details are at
http://www.amazon.com/xo/
As far as a teaching tool goes the software and teaching concepts
can
be applied to any laptop not just the XO. The hardware enables the
software as much or more than the other way around.
It has yum,
It has a window manager (matchbox)
It has a desktop (sugar)
It has bash
It has python
It has wireless networking
Including mesh networking.
It has Ctl-Alt-F[123] alternate shell
It has an X server.
It has user accounts...
It has a web browser (firefox)
It has a Fedora kernel...
It has USB ports (three).
It has a mousepad
It has a keyboard....
It has a LCD display with an advantage.
+ SDHC slot, webcam, audio in/out
Loading software is different... no DVD/CDROM.
Not the only device though nowdays with all the Netbooks that don't
have an optical drive
When all is said and done it runs Fedora....
and this is a Fedora list.
Peter
3:39 p.m.
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 12:17 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:40:52PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:02 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I'm beginning to find all the recent XO-related threads a bit annoying.
> > Could they be moved to fedora-olpc-list where they belong (and which
> > is very low-traffic)?
> bracin
> +1
>
> > If I'm the only one to find them annoying, feel free to ignore me.
>
> Not so much annoying as frustremating, given that I have no prospect of
> being able to get an XO where I am. I suspect the same is true of many
> people on this list.
>
The key here is the XO folk are embracing fedora. i.e. they are getting on
this train not trying to drive things the other way arround.
The school server will be Fedora with some XO services, backups via rsync and
some class specific material and services like network gateway.
For those in the US the folk at OLPC will have another give-one:get-one program
this fall.. The XO is cute and yes nifty. A serious Linux USER will find it a bit
light
on horsepower and memory but marvelous.
As far as a teaching tool goes the software and teaching concepts can
be applied to any laptop not just the XO. The hardware enables the
software as much or more than the other way around.
It has yum,
It has a window manager (matchbox)
It has a desktop (sugar)
It has bash
It has python
It has wireless networking
It has Ctl-Alt-F[123] alternate shell
It has an X server.
It has user accounts...
It has a web browser (firefox)
It has a Fedora kernel...
It has USB ports (three).
It has a mousepad
It has a keyboard....
It has a LCD display with an advantage.
Loading software is different... no DVD/CDROM.
When all is said and done it runs Fedora....
and this is a Fedora list.
Well said :)
The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
fedora-test-list community. A lot of the efforts jeremy and friends are
going through now mirror the early days of Fedora. There's definitely a
need for sharing of skills/experiences.
One goal of the Fedora on XO effort is to ensure that the Live images
built within Fedora infrastructure are the same images loaded onto the
XO. There is tons of overlap here, especially for some of the Live
images built with a lighter weight desktop environment.
Hopefully there are opportunities in the future for more folks to either
G1G1 or another chance to join an XO raffle.
Thanks,
James
12:11 p.m.
James Laska wrote:
The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the
XO
on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
fedora-test-list community.
Slightly OT, but is the XO actually a good buy,
compared say with the EeePC ?
I thought it was meant to poor countries.
Does the US now fall into this category?
Sorry.
9:11 a.m.
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 17:11 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
James Laska wrote:
> The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
> on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
> fedora-test-list community.
Slightly OT, but is the XO actually a good buy,
compared say with the EeePC ?
It's not a PC like you're used to. Or at least, it's not something you
do big compiles on, setup databases and webservers on. It's a low end
system however it has some amazing features. Easy portable, great LCD in
sunlight, rucked etc.
I can see it as a powerful alternative to some PDAs when it comes to
in-the-field operations.
I thought it was meant to poor countries.
Does the US now fall into this category?
Sorry.
Unfortunately, the answer there is yes. At least in some parts; XO - or
OLPC is about giving children that otherwise wouldn't have it, a chance
to gain technology knowledge and there through general knowledge and
learning. Skills they need to survive, get good jobs etc.
OLPC is actually giving away XO's in some parts of the US. Tragic but
true.
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9:11 a.m.
I have both, an OLPC XO and a Asus EEE 2G surf model. The surf model
comes with more RAM, a larger hard drive, and twice the proc speed. On
the other had the XO battery life beats the EEE by a large margin.
Higher models of EEE come with a webcam, and I think they all come
with a built-in microphone and microphone jack.
Have to say I feel less like a doofus carrying around the EEE. Both
keyboards are small, but the EEE keyboard is slightly bigger. The EEE
has a monitor out and enough usb slots that you can turn the thing
into a docking station (which is normally how I use it for long
sessions).
-Zenko
On 10/27/08, Peter Larsen <plarsen(a)famlarsen.homelinux.com> wrote:
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 17:11 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> James Laska wrote:
>
> > The main reason for suggesting we communicate Fedora testing on the XO
> > on this list was to build on the experiences of the already established
> > fedora-test-list community.
>
> Slightly OT, but is the XO actually a good buy,
> compared say with the EeePC ?
It's not a PC like you're used to. Or at least, it's not something you
do big compiles on, setup databases and webservers on. It's a low end
system however it has some amazing features. Easy portable, great LCD in
sunlight, rucked etc.
I can see it as a powerful alternative to some PDAs when it comes to
in-the-field operations.
> I thought it was meant to poor countries.
> Does the US now fall into this category?
> Sorry.
Unfortunately, the answer there is yes. At least in some parts; XO - or
OLPC is about giving children that otherwise wouldn't have it, a chance
to gain technology knowledge and there through general knowledge and
learning. Skills they need to survive, get good jobs etc.
OLPC is actually giving away XO's in some parts of the US. Tragic but
true.
--
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