10:56 p.m.
I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19 branched.
Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum
upgrade would leave me with, whether 19 final or rawhide/20? Presumably,
because upgrade last was post-branch, upgrading would remove release-rawhide
leaving it on 19? What doc or web doc would answer this. Glancing at several
wiki pages covering Rawhide I saw nothing on this subject. IOW, what controls
going to branched, or staying on Rawhide? 20 branching is barely a week away.
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11:54 p.m.
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19
branched.
Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum
upgrade would leave me with, whether 19 final or rawhide/20? Presumably,
because upgrade last was post-branch, upgrading would remove release-rawhide
leaving it on 19? What doc or web doc would answer this. Glancing at several
wiki pages covering Rawhide I saw nothing on this subject. IOW, what controls
going to branched, or staying on Rawhide? 20 branching is barely a week away.
Well, if it were me, I'd just run it and see what the list of builds to
be installed looks like. If it's full of fc19 builds, you're getting
F19. If it's full of fc20 builds, you're getting Rawhide. If the list
you see isn't the build you want, just say 'n' and then fiddle with the
fedora-release packages...
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12:25 a.m.
On 2013-07-29 21:54 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19
branched.
> Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum
> upgrade would leave me with, whether 19 final or rawhide/20? Presumably,
> because upgrade last was post-branch, upgrading would remove release-rawhide
> leaving it on 19? What doc or web doc would answer this. Glancing at several
> wiki pages covering Rawhide I saw nothing on this subject. IOW, what controls
> going to branched, or staying on Rawhide? 20 branching is barely a week away.
Well, if it were me, I'd just run it and see what the list of
builds to
be installed looks like. If it's full of fc19 builds, you're getting
F19. If it's full of fc20 builds, you're getting Rawhide. If the list
you see isn't the build you want, just say 'n' and then fiddle with the
fedora-release packages...
As expected, no fc20 packages were in the list. Maybe a better question might
have been: how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of
switching to branch after each branch occurs do it?
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12:51 a.m.
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 01:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-07-29 21:54 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
> On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>> I have one system running 19 last updated 3 months ago, after 19 branched.
>> Release and release-rawhide are both at 19-0.5. How can I tell what yum
>> upgrade would leave me with, whether 19 final or rawhide/20? Presumably,
>> because upgrade last was post-branch, upgrading would remove release-rawhide
>> leaving it on 19? What doc or web doc would answer this. Glancing at several
>> wiki pages covering Rawhide I saw nothing on this subject. IOW, what controls
>> going to branched, or staying on Rawhide? 20 branching is barely a week away.
> Well, if it were me, I'd just run it and see what the list of builds to
> be installed looks like. If it's full of fc19 builds, you're getting
> F19. If it's full of fc20 builds, you're getting Rawhide. If the list
> you see isn't the build you want, just say 'n' and then fiddle with the
> fedora-release packages...
As expected, no fc20 packages were in the list. Maybe a better question might
have been: how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of
switching to branch after each branch occurs do it?
There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure
fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled repos, AFAIK.
I guess if you edited the .repo files directly they wouldn't get
overridden on updates? I haven't really played with it much, to be
honest, I just adjust as necessary for whatever I'm trying to do as I go
along.
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1:16 a.m.
On 2013-07-29 22:51 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
> how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of
> switching to branch after each branch occurs do it?
There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure
fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled repos, AFAIK.
I guess if you edited the .repo files directly they wouldn't get
overridden on updates?
If by "tweaking" you mean manual manipulation of /etc/yum.repos.d/ content,
I'd need a howto. I don't do so well on my own messing with config files
containing $ &/or ? in URLs.
Maybe the easier way would be manual installation of a post-branch
fedora-release-rawhide version before doing anything (or anything else) with yum?
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1:59 a.m.
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 02:16 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-07-29 22:51 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
>> how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of
>> switching to branch after each branch occurs do it?
> There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure
> fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled repos, AFAIK.
> I guess if you edited the .repo files directly they wouldn't get
> overridden on updates?
If by "tweaking" you mean manual manipulation of /etc/yum.repos.d/ content,
I'd need a howto. I don't do so well on my own messing with config files
containing $ &/or ? in URLs.
No, I actually use the GUI (!!!) for that. I've no idea what it does,
but it works.
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2:04 a.m.
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On 30 July 2013 07:59, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 02:16 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2013-07-29 22:51 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
>
> >> how do those who want to keep a system on Rawhide instead of
> >> switching to branch after each branch occurs do it?
>
> > There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure
> > fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled repos, AFAIK.
> > I guess if you edited the .repo files directly they wouldn't get
> > overridden on updates?
>
> If by "tweaking" you mean manual manipulation of /etc/yum.repos.d/
content,
> I'd need a howto. I don't do so well on my own messing with config files
> containing $ &/or ? in URLs.
No, I actually use the GUI (!!!) for that. I've no idea what it does,
but it works.
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9:28 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 02:16:35AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
If by "tweaking" you mean manual manipulation of
/etc/yum.repos.d/
content, I'd need a howto. I don't do so well on my own messing with
config files containing $ &/or ? in URLs.
Don't touch those. You don't need to mess with anything but the
"enabled=0|1" lines. Want Rawhide? Toggle "enabled" to 1 for the
rawhide
repo in fedora-rawhide.repo. Set everything else to 0.
There's also yum-config-manager(1) …
Lars
9:48 p.m.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure
fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled repos, AFAIK.
I guess if you edited the .repo files directly they wouldn't get
overridden on updates? I haven't really played with it much, to be
honest, I just adjust as necessary for whatever I'm trying to do as I go
along.
That won't work. fedora-release just Obsoletes fedora-release-rawhide
at the branch point [1] so fedora-rawhide.repo is removed completely.
The only way to avoid it would be to prevent yum from honoring the
obsoletes the first time you update after the branch, but that really
isn't any easier than just reinstalling fedora-release-rawhide after
the fact.
-T.C.
[1]
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/fedora-release.git/commit/?h=f19&i...
1:42 a.m.
distroverpkg=<your_own_rawhide_file>
<snipped>
*
Yum* obtains the value of $releasever from the distroverpkg=<value> line in
the /etc/yum.conf"
</snipped>
,it goes to *release, if above line not present.
On 31 July 2013 03:48, T.C. Hollingsworth <tchollingsworth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Adam Williamson
<awilliam(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> There isn't a particularly easy way, you just have to make sure
> fedora-release-rawhide is installed and tweak the enabled repos, AFAIK.
> I guess if you edited the .repo files directly they wouldn't get
> overridden on updates? I haven't really played with it much, to be
> honest, I just adjust as necessary for whatever I'm trying to do as I go
> along.
That won't work. fedora-release just Obsoletes fedora-release-rawhide
at the branch point [1] so fedora-rawhide.repo is removed completely.
The only way to avoid it would be to prevent yum from honoring the
obsoletes the first time you update after the branch, but that really
isn't any easier than just reinstalling fedora-release-rawhide after
the fact.
-T.C.
[1]
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/fedora-release.git/commit/?h=f19&i...
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