Russel,
Thanks for your response.
Removing python3-docs did not appear to change the problem.
Any other ideas? Just wait for whomever to fix the packaging problems? I could write a bug if you think that might be a good thing to do.
Regards,
George...
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 13:44:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: George R Goffe grgoffe@yahoo.com
Subject: Is the rawhide repo broken?
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Hi,
I am trying to keep my Fedora 27 (Rawhide) system up to date by running "dnf upgrade" at least daily. For the past week I have seen a list of packages with broken dependencies. 165 in number. dnf --best reports 118 or so "problems".
I'm not sure what to do about this. Could someone give me a hint please?
Regards,
George...
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 17:52:47 +0100
From: Russel Winder russel@winder.org.uk
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Hi,
I believe there is currently a problem between Boost and LibreOffice
staopping quite a few upgrades but not 165/118, far fewer than that.
I found though I had to remove python3-docs as that package has not
been updated where all the other python3-* packages appear to have
been.
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On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 05:00 +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
Russel,
Thanks for your response.
Removing python3-docs did not appear to change the problem.
I am surprised you didn't get some change since a number of Fedora system packages depend on the python3 version.
Any other ideas? Just wait for whomever to fix the packaging problems? I could write a bug if you think that might be a good thing to do.
History indicates there are two scenarios and all too often both apply:
1. You have one or two deprecated and/or removed packages that are causing a version conflict and stopping upgrade.
2. There is a version conflict because of lack of update by packagers.
The python3-doc thing is an instance of 2. As is my current Boost/LibreOffice situation. I am suffering without python3-doc in the short term, and waiting on the packagers to sort out the Boost/LiberOffice thing as I need both.
Whenever I have instances of 1, I use "dnf upgrade --best" and "dnf upgrade --best --allowerasing" (always saying no to actioning the upgrade) to investigate where the package conflict is. In many cases the package is redundant and removing it (or them) clears the blockage. Sometimes the problem is the dnf system itself, it gets the graph of dependencies over specifying things and thus causing blockages. In this case I allow removal of packages to clear the blockage and then reinstall. Occasionally you have to live without a package or two for a while to get everything else up to date. cf. python3-doc.
It is a tad difficult to explain things in general. Might it be worth submitting the result of:
dnf check-update --refresh
dnf upgrade --best
here (as attachments if the output is very lengthy) so as to get more focused ideas bubbling?
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:00:02AM +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
Any other ideas? Just wait for whomever to fix the packaging problems? I could write a bug if you think that might be a good thing to do.
We're in the middle of doing a mass rebuild, and it's not surprising that rawhide is temporarily broken.
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:00:02AM +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
Any other ideas? Just wait for whomever to fix the packaging problems? I could write a bug if you think that might be a good thing to do.
We're in the middle of doing a mass rebuild, and it's not surprising that rawhide is temporarily broken.
Actually the mass rebuild happens on a side tag, but the rawhide being broken is likely due to the ppc64le binutils/glibc mess
On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 09:16 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:00:02AM +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
Any other ideas? Just wait for whomever to fix the packaging problems? I could write a bug if you think that might be a good thing to do.
We're in the middle of doing a mass rebuild, and it's not surprising that rawhide is temporarily broken.
Actually the mass rebuild happens on a side tag, but the rawhide being broken is likely due to the ppc64le binutils/glibc mess
Well, one specific problem mentioned was actually due to the Boost version bump. A lot of things depend on Boost, including LibreOffice, and rebuilding LibreOffice is never much fun (it takes something like 20 hours to build, I believe).
It looks like both the first attempt to rebuild LO for the Boost bump, and the mass rebuild attempt to build it, failed:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=921574 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=928814
so LO will certainly still have broken deps in current Rawhide, and that will remain the case until a successful rebuild is done. Other things may also not yet have been successfully rebuilt against the new Boost.
The first LO build failed on ppc64le (which may have been due to the known issue in ppc64le builds that was recently fixed), and s390x (which failure I can't immediately tell the cause of - it failed because some file 'does not exist'). The mass rebuild build looks to have failed on the same arches in much the same way.
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Adam Williamson adamwill@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 09:16 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:00:02AM +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
Any other ideas? Just wait for whomever to fix the packaging problems? I could write a bug if you think that might be a good thing to do.
We're in the middle of doing a mass rebuild, and it's not surprising that rawhide is temporarily broken.
Actually the mass rebuild happens on a side tag, but the rawhide being broken is likely due to the ppc64le binutils/glibc mess
Well, one specific problem mentioned was actually due to the Boost version bump. A lot of things depend on Boost, including LibreOffice, and rebuilding LibreOffice is never much fun (it takes something like 20 hours to build, I believe).
It looks like both the first attempt to rebuild LO for the Boost bump, and the mass rebuild attempt to build it, failed:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=921574 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=928814
so LO will certainly still have broken deps in current Rawhide, and that will remain the case until a successful rebuild is done. Other things may also not yet have been successfully rebuilt against the new Boost.
The first LO build failed on ppc64le (which may have been due to the known issue in ppc64le builds that was recently fixed), and s390x (which failure I can't immediately tell the cause of - it failed because some file 'does not exist'). The mass rebuild build looks to have failed on the same arches in much the same way.
Yes, there's other problems too, like the bump of a graphics library to fix CVEs, but the accidental miss of the soname bump, there's a bunch of issues converging unfortunately.