No X display (rawhide) on

[Jerry Amundson]

Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9.
Display only. Mouse movement changes monitor power, and I can blindly login.
kernel-2.6.27-0.323.rc6.fc10                  Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:42:57 AM CDT
xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.12-4.fc10                 Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:42:00 AM CDT
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-14.fc10                Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:59 AM CDT
xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-8.fc10                Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:58 AM CDT
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.5.0-6.fc10             Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:57 AM CDT
xorg-x11-server-common-1.5.0-6.fc10           Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:57 AM CDT
kernel-2.6.27-0.317.rc5.git10.fc10            Thu 11 Sep 2008 12:40:44 PM CDT

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[Horst H. von Brand]

Jerry Amundson <jamundso(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9.
>  Display only. Mouse movement changes monitor power, and I can blindly 
login.

Here (xorg-x11-drv-i810) it works fine right now.
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[Jerry Amundson]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Horst H. von Brand
<vonbrand(a)inf.utfsm.cl&gt; wrote:
>  Jerry Amundson <jamundso(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9.
> > Display only. Mouse movement changes monitor power, and I can blindly
>  login.
>
>  Here (xorg-x11-drv-i810) it works fine right now. 
Good to know.
Maybe that points to
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-14.fc10                Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:59 AM CDT
as the culprit...

jerry

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There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of
smart".

[Adam Jackson]

On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:39 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
>  On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Horst H. von Brand
>  <vonbrand(a)inf.utfsm.cl&gt; wrote:
>  > Jerry Amundson <jamundso(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >> Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9.
>  >> Display only. Mouse movement changes monitor power, and I can blindly
>  > login.
>  >
>  > Here (xorg-x11-drv-i810) it works fine right now.
>  
>  Good to know.
>  Maybe that points to
>  xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-14.fc10                Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:59 AM CDT
>  as the culprit... 
Can you bisect over the recent versions of the driver to find out where
it breaks?

http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-ati/6.9.0/

has the old builds.  'rpm -q --last xorg-x11-drv-ati' will tell you what
version you were running before.

- ajax

[Jerry Amundson]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:39 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Horst H. von Brand
> > <vonbrand(a)inf.utfsm.cl&gt; wrote:
> > > Jerry Amundson <jamundso(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > >> Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9. 
Well, now I know exactly when it started - when I switched monitors. Arrgh.
Both are Dell Flat Panels - 17" works, 20" does not. Logs attached.
Seems to relate to some auto sizing - if I boot with the 17" monitor,
then move the connection to the 20" it's fine, but with 1280x1024.
I'll bug hunt later, if no one else does.

Thanks,
jerry

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There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of
smart".

[Jerry Amundson]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Jerry Amundson <jamundso(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com&gt;
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:39 -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Horst H. von Brand
> >> <vonbrand(a)inf.utfsm.cl&gt; wrote:
> >> > Jerry Amundson <jamundso(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >> >> Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9.
>
>  Well, now I know exactly when it started - when I switched monitors. Arrgh.
>  Both are Dell Flat Panels - 17" works, 20" does not. Logs attached.
>  Seems to relate to some auto sizing - if I boot with the 17" monitor,
>  then move the connection to the 20" it's fine, but with 1280x1024.
>  I'll bug hunt later, if no one else does. 
bz'd https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462657

jerry

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There's plenty of youth in America - it's time we find the "fountain of
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[Clyde E. Kunkel]

Jerry Amundson wrote:
>  Not sure when it started. Last week, possibly? Works fine with f9.
>  Display only. Mouse movement changes monitor power, and I can blindly login.
>  kernel-2.6.27-0.323.rc6.fc10                  Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:42:57 AM CDT
>  xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.12-4.fc10                 Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:42:00 AM CDT
>  xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-14.fc10                Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:59 AM CDT
>  xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.4.2-8.fc10                Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:58 AM CDT
>  xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.5.0-6.fc10             Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:57 AM CDT
>  xorg-x11-server-common-1.5.0-6.fc10           Mon 15 Sep 2008 09:41:57 AM CDT
>  kernel-2.6.27-0.317.rc5.git10.fc10            Thu 11 Sep 2008 12:40:44 PM CDT
>  
>   
For some time now I have been running with ati drv 6.8.0-21.fc10.i386 
since the driver in combination with xorg-x11-drivers 7.3.8.fc10 is the 
only combination that gdm and xorg server works with.  I cannot point to 
why as the x log file does not show any errors.

When the problem occurs, typically, gdm flashes the logon screen several 
times before giving up unless I keep the aforementioned configuration. 
After gdm gives up, I get a logon terminal and can see that x is still 
running.  At this point I revert to the working configuration and 
continue with scratching my head.  Kernel is up to date.

Suggestions anyone?

TIA

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