F12 Testing highlight: new xorg-x11-server, mesa, libdrm and xorg-x11-drv-ati

[Adam Williamson]

Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
graphics updates going into updates-testing.

I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.

In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes.

As graphics-related updates are prone to regressions and this a fairly
major change when you add it all up, it would be extremely helpful if as
many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
updates-testing and check how they work for you. Please please report
any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks!
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net

[Kevin DeKorte]

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On 01/07/10 07:40, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
>  graphics updates going into updates-testing.
>  
>  I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
>  preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
>  feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
>  1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.
>  
>  In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
>  from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
>  significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
>  graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes.
>  
>  As graphics-related updates are prone to regressions and this a fairly
>  major change when you add it all up, it would be extremely helpful if as
>  many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
>  updates-testing and check how they work for you. Please please report
>  any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
>  Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
>  facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
>  especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks! 
Adam,

So if you are on ATI hardware is a newer kernel needed to go along with
those libdrm changes? Also what about plymouth (1), it seems a newer
version of it is required if you get a newer kernel. I ran into a
problem with the older plymouth with getting a black screen on boot and
was able to work around it by either upgrading plymouth or removing rhgb
from the kernel line in grub.

Kevin

(1) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=149605

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[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 07:51 -0700, Kevin DeKorte wrote:

>  Adam,
>  
>  So if you are on ATI hardware is a newer kernel needed to go along with
>  those libdrm changes? Also what about plymouth (1), it seems a newer
>  version of it is required if you get a newer kernel. I ran into a
>  problem with the older plymouth with getting a black screen on boot and
>  was able to work around it by either upgrading plymouth or removing rhgb
>  from the kernel line in grub. 
Good questions. I forgot to mention the plymouth issue - indeed, you
should install the newer plymouth in updates-testing along with the
updated libdrm. Not sure what the kernel situation is; probably best to
have the latest from updates-testing just in case. Thanks.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net

[Kevin DeKorte]

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On 01/07/10 08:09, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 07:51 -0700, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
>  
> > Adam,
> >
> > So if you are on ATI hardware is a newer kernel needed to go along with
> > those libdrm changes? Also what about plymouth (1), it seems a newer
> > version of it is required if you get a newer kernel. I ran into a
> > problem with the older plymouth with getting a black screen on boot and
> > was able to work around it by either upgrading plymouth or removing rhgb
> > from the kernel line in grub.
>  
>  Good questions. I forgot to mention the plymouth issue - indeed, you
>  should install the newer plymouth in updates-testing along with the
>  updated libdrm. Not sure what the kernel situation is; probably best to
>  have the latest from updates-testing just in case. Thanks. 
Adam,

The packages are working ok here. I did the following

yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update xorg\* libdrm\* mesa\* plymouth\*

And I also installed the kernel(1) from koji. I was disappointed to see
that r6xx firmware that provides interrupt support is not loaded in this
kernel even though the firmware is installed. Otherwise, everything
seems to be fine for me.

Kevin

(1) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=149813
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[Garry Williams]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  it would be extremely helpful if as
>  many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
>  updates-testing and check how they work for you. 
I did

    yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update xorg\* libdrm\* mesa\* plymouth\*

and my desktop crashed as I was exiting firefox before logging out.

After logging in to the DE, all seems to work fine.

I'm running

    2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64
    KDE

There is no newer kernel available in updates-testing.

I have not tried a reboot yet.

-- 
Garry Williams [phone]

[drago01]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
>  graphics updates going into updates-testing.
>
>  I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
>  preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
>  feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
>  1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.
>
>  In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
>  from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
>  significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
>  graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes. 
No change at all for intel GM45, so still working fine.

[François Cami]

On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:40:15 +0000
Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
>  graphics updates going into updates-testing.
>  
>  I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
>  preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
>  feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
>  1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.
>  
>  In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
>  from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
>  significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
>  graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes.
>  
>  As graphics-related updates are prone to regressions and this a fairly
>  major change when you add it all up, it would be extremely helpful if as
>  many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
>  updates-testing and check how they work for you. Please please report
>  any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
>  Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
>  facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
>  especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks! 
The updates-testing packages work fine on my Radeon 9550 (R300)
Mesa DRI R300 (RV350 4153) 20090101  TCL DRI2.
Tested with neverball/neverputt/openarena.

However, a friend of mine is reporting an instant crash (no ssh, no ping)
on a X700 (RV410 5E4D) when launching neverball.
Will update as I get more information.

F

[François Cami]

On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:41:01 +0100
François Cami <fcami(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:40:15 +0000
>  Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
>  > graphics updates going into updates-testing.
>  > 
>  > I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
>  > preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
>  > feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
>  > 1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.
>  > 
>  > In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
>  > from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
>  > significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
>  > graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes.
>  > 
>  > As graphics-related updates are prone to regressions and this a fairly
>  > major change when you add it all up, it would be extremely helpful if as
>  > many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
>  > updates-testing and check how they work for you. Please please report
>  > any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
>  > Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
>  > facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
>  > especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks!
>  
>  The updates-testing packages work fine on my Radeon 9550 (R300)
>  Mesa DRI R300 (RV350 4153) 20090101  TCL DRI2.
>  Tested with neverball/neverputt/openarena.
>  
>  However, a friend of mine is reporting an instant crash (no ssh, no ping)
>  on a X700 (RV410 5E4D) when launching neverball.
>  Will update as I get more information. 
This also happens with the current xorg/mesa packages. I think it could be
related to having desktop effects enabled.
Anyway, said crash is not a regression.

F

[Jason Farrell]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
>  graphics updates going into updates-testing.
>
>  I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
>  preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
>  feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
>  1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.
>
>  In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
>  from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
>  significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
>  graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes.
>
>  As graphics-related updates are prone to regressions and this a fairly
>  major change when you add it all up, it would be extremely helpful if as
>  many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
>  updates-testing and check how they work for you. Please please report
>  any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
>  Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
>  facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
>  especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks!
>  --
>  Adam Williamson
>  Fedora QA Community Monkey
>  IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
>  http://www.happyassassin.net
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All's well here after a "yum --enablerepo updates-testing update
xorg\* plymouth\* mesa\* libdrm\* --changelog" and a reboot. the GL
neverball game is fine too.

2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)


-- 
Jason "zcat" Farrell

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Adam Williamson wrote:

>  Please please report any noted regressions 
All is well on both my desktop and laptop computers, both Intel.

The last testing request was a disaster, which necessitated that I revert to an 
earlier issue, but this time all is well.

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 01/08/2010 12:50 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>  Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>    
> > Please please report any noted regressions
> >     
>  All is well on both my desktop and laptop computers, both Intel.
>
>  The last testing request was a disaster, which necessitated that I revert to an 
>  earlier issue, but this time all is well.
>
>     
The bug is still present ( that came with 1.7.3-3 ) that Mike Chambers
experienced on his Nvidia GeForce 9400 and I confirmed on my laptop
which has Nvidia Quadro FX570M ( However it was not present on my other
laptop which has ati r300 card ).

I assumed Mike would have filed a bug report but I guess he never did so
I went ahead and filed one bug 552741 Those testers with Nvidia card and
are running Gnome Desktop it would be good if you could set the Gnome
panel to transparent ( you wont notice this if the panels are set to
solid color )and see if you experience graphic distortion on the panel (
see picture on the bug report ). and reported back either here or on the
report with what card you are using and if it worked or not. ( I think
some of the Nvidia card are affected by this bug while others are not ).

JBG

[Vaclav Misek]

On 01/08/2010 12:01 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>  On 01/08/2010 12:50 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>    
> > Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> >   
> >     
> >> Please please report any noted regressions
> >>     
> >>       
> > 
For me 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD
3300 Graphics no probs yet, 3D applications seems to be faster. No
complains :-).
Kind regards

        Vaclav

[Juan P. Daza P.]

2010/1/8 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg(a)hi.is&gt;

>  On 01/08/2010 12:50 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>  > Adam Williamson wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >> Please please report any noted regressions
>  >>
>  > All is well on both my desktop and laptop computers, both Intel.
>  >
>  > The last testing request was a disaster, which necessitated that I revert
>  to an
>  > earlier issue, but this time all is well.
>  >
>  >
>  The bug is still present ( that came with 1.7.3-3 ) that Mike Chambers
>  experienced on his Nvidia GeForce 9400 and I confirmed on my laptop
>  which has Nvidia Quadro FX570M ( However it was not present on my other
>  laptop which has ati r300 card ).
>
>  I assumed Mike would have filed a bug report but I guess he never did so
>  I went ahead and filed one bug 552741 Those testers with Nvidia card and
>  are running Gnome Desktop it would be good if you could set the Gnome
>  panel to transparent ( you wont notice this if the panels are set to
>  solid color )and see if you experience graphic distortion on the panel (
>  see picture on the bug report ). and reported back either here or on the
>  report with what card you are using and if it worked or not. ( I think
>  some of the Nvidia card are affected by this bug while others are not ).
>
>  JBG
>
>  I can reproduce this bug, comment added to bug 552741 (nVidia Corporation 
C51
[Geforce 6150 Go] (rev a2)) .

No other problem found at the moment.

-- 
JP
linux user: 431181

[José Abílio Matos]

On Thursday 07 January 2010 14:40:15 Adam Williamson wrote:
>  Please please report
>  any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
>  Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
>  facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
>  especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks! 
I am using kde (4.4rc1) on a Mobility Radeon HD 3650, the more serious problem 
I had was when using effects on kde where sometimes when using firefox X would 
lock or when switching between windows with Alt+Tab. So far so good and it 
works without any glitches. Good work. :-)

-- 
José Abílio

[Michael Breuer]

On 1/7/2010 9:40 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  Hi, folks. Just wanted to highlight some fairly major planned F12
>  graphics updates going into updates-testing.
>
>  I posted a testing request previously for xorg-x11-server, to get some
>  preliminary testing before it went into the updates-testing repo. The
>  feedback from that was positive, so a new xorg-x11-server - bumped up to
>  1.7.3 and with several other changes - is now in updates-testing.
>
>  In addition, there's a new mesa package, with a significant version bump
>  from 7.6 to 7.7. There's an accompanying libdrm update, and a
>  significant update to xorg-x11-drv-ati (radeon), the driver for ATI/AMD
>  graphics cards, with many bugfixes and changes.
>
>  As graphics-related updates are prone to regressions and this a fairly
>  major change when you add it all up, it would be extremely helpful if as
>  many of you as possible could install these particular packages from F12
>  updates-testing and check how they work for you. Please please report
>  any noted regressions to Bodhi (preferable) or reply to this thread.
>  Might also be helpful to know if they solve any problems anyone's been
>  facing - they may address some 3D issues or improve performance,
>  especially on ATI/AMD hardware. Thanks!
>      
Ok - finally gave it a go. Much better than last time - a few things to 
note however...
(8800GTS, Asus p6t deluxe v2, 12Gb, I7 920, ht enabled, vt-d enabled, 
2.6.32-2 (git) nouveau (git), CONFIG_DMAR off)
1. Performance - seems slower by about 15% than current f12. glxgears, 
for example I get about 650FPS with F12, and about 520 with updates-testing.
2. Race on startup when booting directly to runlevel 5 with gdm & tty1 - 
100% Xorg cpu. Clears after restart of X, or if booting 3 then 5.
3. Reboot required after upgrade - telinit 3 && 5 yields no visible 
console. Even tried removing all fb mods and modprobe fbcon... chvt 
(1..6), etc... nothing. Keyboard worked, but no display. OK after reboot.