Problem booting/install Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso

[Jon Ingason]

I am trying to make netinstall from
Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha on two PC. One is HP Compaq DC5850
with AMD Athlon P5200B and the other is Dell Dimension 3100 with Intel
Celeron 3.06 GHz.

I downloaded Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso and run sha256sum
with OK results. Then burned a CD with K3b.

When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped displaying:

ISOLINUX 6.02

There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.

So the question is what can be wrong?

I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
-- 
Regards

Jon Ingason

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2014-09-19 18:23, Jon Ingason skrev:
>  I am trying to make netinstall from
>  Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha on two PC. One is HP Compaq DC5850
>  with AMD Athlon P5200B and the other is Dell Dimension 3100 with Intel
>  Celeron 3.06 GHz.
>  
>  I downloaded Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso and run sha256sum
>  with OK results. Then burned a CD with K3b.
>  
>  When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
>  and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped displaying:
>  
>  ISOLINUX 6.02
>  
>  There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
>  
>  So the question is what can be wrong?
>  
>  I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
>  can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
>   
I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.

Are I the onlyone having this problem?

-- 
Regards

Jon Ingason

[Joachim Backes]

On 09/20/2014 07:14 PM, Jon Ingason wrote:
>  Den 2014-09-19 18:23, Jon Ingason skrev:
> > I am trying to make netinstall from
> > Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha on two PC. One is HP Compaq DC5850
> > with AMD Athlon P5200B and the other is Dell Dimension 3100 with Intel
> > Celeron 3.06 GHz.
> >
> > I downloaded Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso and run sha256sum
> > with OK results. Then burned a CD with K3b.
> >
> > When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
> > and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped displaying:
> >
> > ISOLINUX 6.02
> >
> > There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
> >
> > So the question is what can be wrong?
> >
> > I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
> > can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
> >
>  
>  I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
>  
>  Are I the onlyone having this problem?
>   
Probably no! See

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html

or

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.

Beside of this, I'm having problems with syslinux (==> isolinux) on F21
(See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141496), but I'm not
sure if this has to do with your issues described here.

Kind regards

Joachim Backes


-- 

Fedora release 21 (Twenty One)
Kernel-3.16.3-300.fc21.x86_64


Joachim Backes <joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de&gt;
https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes

[Adam Williamson]

On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 19:32 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
>  On 09/20/2014 07:14 PM, Jon Ingason wrote:
>  > Den 2014-09-19 18:23, Jon Ingason skrev:
>  >> I am trying to make netinstall from
>  >> Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha on two PC. One is HP Compaq DC5850
>  >> with AMD Athlon P5200B and the other is Dell Dimension 3100 with Intel
>  >> Celeron 3.06 GHz.
>  >>
>  >> I downloaded Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso and run sha256sum
>  >> with OK results. Then burned a CD with K3b.
>  >>
>  >> When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
>  >> and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped displaying:
>  >>
>  >> ISOLINUX 6.02
>  >>
>  >> There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
>  >>
>  >> So the question is what can be wrong?
>  >>
>  >> I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
>  >> can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
>  >>
>  > 
>  > I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
>  > 
>  > Are I the onlyone having this problem?
>  > 
>  
>  Probably no! See
>  
>  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html 
That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in boot, and
anyway its cause was definitely identified and definitely does not exist
in RC1.

>  or
>  
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793. 
This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the reporter is
booting from USB, not a DVD.

I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny disc thing
(the first build since F12 I haven't tested that on :<) Did anyone else?
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

>  > >> When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just
> restart again
>  > >> and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped displaying:
>  > >>
>  > >> ISOLINUX 6.02
>  > >>
>  > >> There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
>  > >>
>  > >> So the question is what can be wrong?
>  > >>
>  > >> I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
>  > >> can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
>  > >>
>  > > 
>  > > I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
>  > > 
>  > > Are I the onlyone having this problem?
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > Probably no! See
>  > 
>  > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
>  
>  That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in boot, and
>  anyway its cause was definitely identified and definitely does not exist
>  in RC1.
>  
>  > or
>  > 
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
>  
>  This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the reporter is
>  booting from USB, not a DVD.
>  
>  I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny disc thing
>  (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that on :<) Did anyone else? 
So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just confirmed
that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the Workstation x64 live
image from Alpha boots on my laptop when written to a DVD-R. As
described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.

I will note for posterity that since joining Fedora I've tested every
single bleeding milestone this way *except F21 Alpha* and of course
that's the single solitary one which decided to break.

I further note that the effect of the wording of the 'Default boot and
install' matrix and 'QA:Testcase_Boot_default_install' is to hedge
between optical and USB media - on a very strict reading, we don't
require optical media testing to occur (only *either* optical media *or*
USB media), but that wasn't actually the intent. We really should be
testing both. The criteria clearly require that both should work at
Alpha.

So, yeah, that's a bit of a brown paper bag :| The bug report is
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141496 , and I've nominated
it as a Beta blocker, obviously. I'll put a big warning in Common Bugs.

It is pretty amusing that it seems that like five people have noticed
this so far, and none of the press coverage mentions it. Useful anecdata
for the 'optical media vs. USB' debate if nothing else =)
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 23:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  
>  > > >> When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
>  > > >> and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped
> displaying:
>  > > >>
>  > > >> ISOLINUX 6.02
>  > > >>
>  > > >> There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
>  > > >>
>  > > >> So the question is what can be wrong?
>  > > >>
>  > > >> I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
>  > > >> can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
>  > > >>
>  > > > 
>  > > > I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
>  > > > 
>  > > > Are I the onlyone having this problem?
>  > > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Probably no! See
>  > > 
>  > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
>  > 
>  > That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in boot, and
>  > anyway its cause was definitely identified and definitely does not exist
>  > in RC1.
>  > 
>  > > or
>  > > 
>  > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
>  > 
>  > This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the reporter is
>  > booting from USB, not a DVD.
>  > 
>  > I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny disc thing
>  > (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that on :<) Did anyone else?
>  
>  So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just confirmed
>  that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the Workstation x64 live
>  image from Alpha boots on my laptop when written to a DVD-R. As
>  described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot. 
For the record, pjones says it works for him, so this seems at least to
be somehow hardware dependent (and it means that possibly someone *did*
test it for Alpha, just not someone with an affected system). We're
continuing to investigate.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:20:58 -0700
Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 23:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>  > 
>  > > > >> When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just
>  > > > >> restart again and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension
>  > > > >> 3100 it just stoped displaying:
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> ISOLINUX 6.02
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> So the question is what can be wrong?
>  > > > >>
>  > > > >> I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and
>  > > > >> see if I can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
>  > > > >>
>  > > > > 
>  > > > > I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
>  > > > > 
>  > > > > Are I the onlyone having this problem?
>  > > > > 
>  > > > 
>  > > > Probably no! See
>  > > > 
>  > > >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
>  > > 
>  > > That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in
>  > > boot, and anyway its cause was definitely identified and
>  > > definitely does not exist in RC1.
>  > > 
>  > > > or
>  > > > 
>  > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
>  > > 
>  > > This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the
>  > > reporter is booting from USB, not a DVD.
>  > > 
>  > > I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny
>  > > disc thing (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that
>  > > on :<) Did anyone else?
>  > 
>  > So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just
>  > confirmed that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the
>  > Workstation x64 live image from Alpha boots on my laptop when
>  > written to a DVD-R. As described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.
>  
>  For the record, pjones says it works for him, so this seems at least
>  to be somehow hardware dependent (and it means that possibly someone
>  *did* test it for Alpha, just not someone with an affected system).
>  We're continuing to investigate.
>  
I did test the install DVD on a supermicro 1u server I have in the
basement. It doesnt pxe boot at all. It booted and installed fine.

Dennis
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[Jon Ingason]

Den 2014-09-30 19:33, Dennis Gilmore skrev:
>  On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:20:58 -0700
>  Adam Williamson <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  
> > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 23:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just
> >>>>>> restart again and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension
> >>>>>> 3100 it just stoped displaying:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ISOLINUX 6.02
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So the question is what can be wrong?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and
> >>>>>> see if I can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are I the onlyone having this problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Probably no! See
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
> >>>
> >>> That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in
> >>> boot, and anyway its cause was definitely identified and
> >>> definitely does not exist in RC1.
> >>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
> >>>
> >>> This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the
> >>> reporter is booting from USB, not a DVD.
> >>>
> >>> I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny
> >>> disc thing (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that
> >>> on :<) Did anyone else?
> >>
> >> So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just
> >> confirmed that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the
> >> Workstation x64 live image from Alpha boots on my laptop when
> >> written to a DVD-R. As described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.
>  
> > For the record, pjones says it works for him, so this seems at least
> > to be somehow hardware dependent (and it means that possibly someone
> > *did* test it for Alpha, just not someone with an affected system).
> > We're continuing to investigate.
>  
>  I did test the install DVD on a supermicro 1u server I have in the
>  basement. It doesnt pxe boot at all. It booted and installed fine.
>  
>  Dennis
>   
In Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta_TC3 my problem is now resolved.
-- 
Regards

Jon Ingason