up2date wedges

[Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX]

I reinstalled FC4T2 from scratch and immediately did an
up2date on up2date.

Now when I run up2date it never gets past the 
"solving RPM inter dependencies" stage.
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[Jim Cornette]

Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>  I reinstalled FC4T2 from scratch and immediately did an
>  up2date on up2date.
>  
>  Now when I run up2date it never gets past the 
>  "solving RPM inter dependencies" stage. 
Up2date is seriously crippled. The deps in development are pretty decent 
right now. This means that yum -y update should complete successfully. 
You will not need to feed a bunch of --exclude=conflicting-package to yum.

Make sure that  /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-devel.repo

looks something like the below entries and then give yum a go.

[development]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree
#baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
mirrorlist=http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors/fedora-core-rawhide
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0

Good Luck,
Jim

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[Robert G. (Doc) Savage]

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 18:41 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>  I reinstalled FC4T2 from scratch and immediately did an
>  up2date on up2date.
>  
>  Now when I run up2date it never gets past the 
>  "solving RPM inter dependencies" stage. 
You're not alone. I'm seeing the same problem in a VMware bubble. If it
weren't for good ol' rpm I'd be hundreds of updates behind by now. The
known limitations of Development notwithstanding, neither yum nor
up2date are working correctly yet in FC4.

-- 
Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL
Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough."
                         -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov

[Rodd Clarkson]

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 21:55 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
>  On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 18:41 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>  > I reinstalled FC4T2 from scratch and immediately did an
>  > up2date on up2date.
>  > 
>  > Now when I run up2date it never gets past the 
>  > "solving RPM inter dependencies" stage.
>  
>  You're not alone. I'm seeing the same problem in a VMware bubble. If it
>  weren't for good ol' rpm I'd be hundreds of updates behind by now. The
>  known limitations of Development notwithstanding, neither yum nor
>  up2date are working correctly yet in FC4. 
I'm having a great run with yum in FC4.

If you're having problems then you probably need to edit:
	/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-devel.repo
and change:
	gpgcheck=1
to:
	gpgcheck=0


Rodd

[Robert G. (Doc) Savage]

On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 13:02 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>  I'm having a great run with yum in FC4.
>  
>  If you're having problems then you probably need to edit:
>  	/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-devel.repo
>  and change:
>  	gpgcheck=1
>  to:
>  	gpgcheck=0 
Rodd,

Thanks for the hint. I'm new to yum, having been forced into using it
when up2date went splat with python errors and a "stealthy" Forward
button. Howsomever, the yum problem hasn't been so much one of gpg
errors as it been one of dealing with roughness in the repository at
this point in the development process.

Right now my FC4t2 system is fully updated (via rpm and FTP downloads)
except for the following packages that up2date says are needed:

struts11		struts11-1.1-1jpp_2fc			struts11-1.1-1jpp_4fc
tomcat5			tomcat5-5.0.30-2jpp_3fc			tomcat5-5.0.30-5jpp_1fc
tomcat5-admin-webapps	tomcat5-admin-webapps-5.0.30-2jpp_3fc	tomcat5-admin-webapps-5.0.30-5jpp_1fc
tomcat5-webapps		tomcat5-webapps-5.0.30-2jpp_3fc		tomcat5-webapps_5.0.30-5jpp_1fc

My fedora-devel.repo file had no gpgcheck entry, so I added the =0 line
as you suggested. Then running 'yum update tomcat5*' cleared the bottom
three entries, leaving only the struts11 update still undone.

Wouldn't you know, it's hung up on a struts11-webapps-tomcat5
dependency :-) ??

-- Doc
Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL
Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough."
                         -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov

[Rodd Clarkson]

>  My fedora-devel.repo file had no gpgcheck entry, so I added the =0
> line
>  as you suggested. Then running 'yum update tomcat5*' cleared the bottom
>  three entries, leaving only the struts11 update still undone.
>  
>  Wouldn't you know, it's hung up on a struts11-webapps-tomcat5
>  dependency :-) ?? 
Yeah, well some packages have dependency problems in rawhide.  This is
just part and parcel of using the devel stuff (and probably not a yum
issue).  RPM should have the same problems with this dependency issue.

If RPM does then comment about it on the list (or file a bug report
against the package and state that there's a problem).

If RPM doesn't have a problem with upgrading to this package but yum
does, then comment to this list and file a bug report against yum

Please keep in mind that using development is a lot less smooth than
using stable releases and that while any update in a stable cycle is
released is tested well, while package changes in development are less
tested (that's what you're doing) and will have problems from time to
time.


Rodd

[seth vidal]

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 21:55 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
>  On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 18:41 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>  > I reinstalled FC4T2 from scratch and immediately did an
>  > up2date on up2date.
>  > 
>  > Now when I run up2date it never gets past the 
>  > "solving RPM inter dependencies" stage.
>  
>  You're not alone. I'm seeing the same problem in a VMware bubble. If it
>  weren't for good ol' rpm I'd be hundreds of updates behind by now. The
>  known limitations of Development notwithstanding, neither yum nor
>  up2date are working correctly yet in FC4. 
What problems are you seeing in yum for updates?

-sv

[Robert G. (Doc) Savage]

On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 01:41 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
>  What problems are you seeing in yum for updates? 
Seth,

As a new yum user, I initially thought its inability to update from the
Development directory indicated yum had a problem. Up2date, with which I
was far more familiar, was definitely pronked and spewing python errors
in its wake. Now I know what I was seeing with yum were broken
dependencies and missing signatures in the Development packages, stuff
that's not yum's fault at all.

-- Doc
Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL
Fedora Core 3 kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 on a P-III/M IBM Thinkpad A22p
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough."
                         -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov