7:13 p.m.
Dear folks,
I took the plunge to Gnome 3 and although I am playing around, I wish to add some of the
old functionality like there was before, i.e, add a starting up script, in the old way one
would open gnome session and add the program/script to run at bootup, now the same cannot
be applied.
I want to add GKrellM system monitor. ATM I use a terminal and type
$ gkrellm &
or run it from the applications(System -> GKrellM), but I want to see if it can run
without me typing it in?
TIA,
Antonio
[students@E213-299 Downloads]$ uname -a
Linux E213-299 2.6.38.1-6.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 23 22:43:31 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64
x86_64 GNU/Linux
1:50 p.m.
Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 <at> yahoo.com> writes:
Dear folks,
I took the plunge to Gnome 3 and although I am playing around, I wish to add
some
of the old functionality like
there was before, i.e, add a starting up script, in the old way one
would open
gnome session and add the
program/script to run at bootup, now the same cannot be applied.
I want to add GKrellM system monitor. ATM I use a terminal and type
$ gkrellm &
or run it from the applications(System -> GKrellM), but I want to see if it
can
run without me typing it in?
I'd like to know, too. I haven't been able to find a definitive answer on this,
but my impression from reading is that the developers decided that people should
be able to use suspend/hibernate to avoid ever having to log out. Of course this
fails to consider a few "corner cases" such as dual boot, kernel updates,
non-working suspend/hibernate, power outages without a UPS or that last longer
than the UPS's capacity, etc. If this impression is wrong, someone please
correct me - in the rare cases I've seen anyone else ask this question, they
never got an answer which suggests there currently isn't one.
2:11 p.m.
I think there actually isn't a option in Gnome 3.
You can use the .xinitrc file in your home folder.
This file will be executed by login in with you user.
cat "(sleep 1 && gkrellm) &" >> ~/.xinitrc
This isn't a solution for a missing function, but it works.
Regards,
Michael
2011/3/26 Andre Robatino <robatino(a)fedoraproject.org>:
Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> Dear folks,
>
> I took the plunge to Gnome 3 and although I am playing around, I wish to add
some of the old functionality like
> there was before, i.e, add a starting up script, in the old way one would open
gnome session and add the
> program/script to run at bootup, now the same cannot be applied.
>
> I want to add GKrellM system monitor. ATM I use a terminal and type
> $ gkrellm &
> or run it from the applications(System -> GKrellM), but I want to see if it
can run without me typing it in?
I'd like to know, too. I haven't been able to find a definitive answer on this,
but my impression from reading is that the developers decided that people should
be able to use suspend/hibernate to avoid ever having to log out. Of course this
fails to consider a few "corner cases" such as dual boot, kernel updates,
non-working suspend/hibernate, power outages without a UPS or that last longer
than the UPS's capacity, etc. If this impression is wrong, someone please
correct me - in the rare cases I've seen anyone else ask this question, they
never got an answer which suggests there currently isn't one.
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6:56 p.m.
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 20:11 +0100, Michael Spahn wrote:
I think there actually isn't a option in Gnome 3.
You can use the .xinitrc file in your home folder.
This file will be executed by login in with you user.
cat "(sleep 1 && gkrellm) &" >> ~/.xinitrc
This isn't a solution for a missing function, but it works.
A much more correct way is to drop a .desktop file in
~/.config/autostart (which is actually what the GNOME 2 GUI did anyway).
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7:18 a.m.
--- On Mon, 3/28/11, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3?
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 4:56 PM
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 20:11 +0100,
Michael Spahn wrote:
> I think there actually isn't a option in Gnome 3.
>
> You can use the .xinitrc file in your home folder.
>
> This file will be executed by login in with you user.
>
> cat "(sleep 1 && gkrellm) &" >>
~/.xinitrc
>
> This isn't a solution for a missing function, but it
works.
A much more correct way is to drop a .desktop file in
~/.config/autostart (which is actually what the GNOME 2 GUI
did anyway).
--
Folks,
None of these methods work for starting gkrellm when gnome3 starts :(
[students@maddog ~]$ cat ~/.config/autostart
(sleep 2 && gkrellm) &
or
in ~/.xinitrc
None do the job. Might have to check the gnome-settings? package. I wanted this work to
not install the package which soon might be depracated?
Thanks,
Antonio
7:34 a.m.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 05:18:05AM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
--- On Mon, 3/28/11, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> From: Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3?
> To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 4:56 PM
> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 20:11 +0100,
> Michael Spahn wrote:
> > I think there actually isn't a option in Gnome 3.
> >
> > You can use the .xinitrc file in your home folder.
> >
> > This file will be executed by login in with you user.
> >
> > cat "(sleep 1 && gkrellm) &" >>
> ~/.xinitrc
> >
> > This isn't a solution for a missing function, but it
> works.
>
> A much more correct way is to drop a .desktop file in
> ~/.config/autostart (which is actually what the GNOME 2 GUI
> did anyway).
> --
Folks,
None of these methods work for starting gkrellm when gnome3 starts :(
[students@maddog ~]$ cat ~/.config/autostart
(sleep 2 && gkrellm) &
or
in ~/.xinitrc
None do the job. Might have to check the gnome-settings? package. I wanted this work to
not install the package which soon might be depracated?
I'm using gnome-settings for starting gkrellm here. But looking at my
~/.config/autostart *directory*
I see:
$ ls ~/.config/autostart/
dropbox.desktop gkrellm.desktop
And the contents of gkrellm.desktop are:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Exec=/usr/bin/gkrellm
Hidden=false
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true
Name[en_US]=gkrellm
Name=gkrellm
Comment[en_US]=system preformance monitoring
Comment=system preformance monitoring
Thanks,
Antonio
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On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 14:34 +0200, Alon Levy wrote:
I'm using gnome-settings for starting gkrellm here. But looking
at my ~/.config/autostart *directory*
I see:
$ ls ~/.config/autostart/
dropbox.desktop gkrellm.desktop
And the contents of gkrellm.desktop are:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Exec=/usr/bin/gkrellm
Hidden=false
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true
Name[en_US]=gkrellm
Name=gkrellm
Comment[en_US]=system preformance monitoring
Comment=system preformance monitoring
Right. Like I said. You put .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart .
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6:54 p.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ...
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
From: Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com>
Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3?
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
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Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:08 AM
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 14:34 +0200,
Alon Levy wrote:
> I'm using gnome-settings for starting gkrellm here.
But looking at my ~/.config/autostart *directory*
> I see:
> $ ls ~/.config/autostart/
> dropbox.desktop gkrellm.desktop
>
> And the contents of gkrellm.desktop are:
> [Desktop Entry]
> Type=Application
> Exec=/usr/bin/gkrellm
> Hidden=false
> X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true
> Name[en_US]=gkrellm
> Name=gkrellm
> Comment[en_US]=system preformance monitoring
> Comment=system preformance monitoring
Right. Like I said. You put .desktop files in
~/.config/autostart .
--
Thank you very much Adam & Alon, your help is greatly appreciated. Now it works. I
created a directory autostart in ~/.config/ directory, then added the file gkrellm.desktop
with the contents above and it is working finally :)
Now, I have one remaining issue. How do we get gdm to autologin? The previous tricks to
put in [daemon] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf do not work anymore. Any insights on that
would be appreciated as well.
Regards,
Antonio
7:14 p.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ...
On 03/30/2011 05:24 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
Now, I have one remaining issue. How do we get gdm to autologin?
The previous tricks to put in [daemon] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf do not work
anymore. Any insights on that would be appreciated as well.
Have you tried:
/etc/gdm/custom.conf
[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin= <username>
---
Rahul
7:58 p.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ...
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ...
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 5:14 PM
On 03/30/2011 05:24 AM, Antonio
Olivares wrote:
> Now, I have one remaining issue. How do we get
gdm to autologin? The previous tricks to put in
[daemon] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf do not work
anymore. Any insights on that would be appreciated as
well.
Have you tried:
/etc/gdm/custom.conf
[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin= <username>
---
Yes, I tried that, **unless I have a typo**(will double/triple/quadruple check), and it
did not work :(, will check it again and report back.
Regards,
Antonio
8:17 p.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ... (autologin SOLVED)
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ...
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
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Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 5:14 PM
On 03/30/2011 05:24 AM, Antonio
Olivares wrote:
> Now, I have one remaining issue. How do we get
gdm to autologin? The previous tricks to put in
[daemon] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf do not work
anymore. Any insights on that would be appreciated as
well.
Have you tried:
/etc/gdm/custom.conf
[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin= <username>
---
Must have been a typo, or the other line
TimedLoginDelay=0, Now it is working like a champ! :)
[students@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
# GDM configuration storage
[daemon]
TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=students
[security]
[xdmcp]
[greeter]
[chooser]
[debug]
[students@localhost ~]$
Regards,
Antonio
[students@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.38.2-8.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 28 02:14:51 UTC 2011
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
8:34 p.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ... (autologin SOLVED)
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 18:17 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you tried:
>
> /etc/gdm/custom.conf
>
> [daemon]
> AutomaticLoginEnable=True
> AutomaticLogin= <username>
>
> ---
Must have been a typo, or the other line
TimedLoginDelay=0, Now it is working like a champ! :)
[students@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
# GDM configuration storage
[daemon]
TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=students
Was neither, your using *timed* login and what Rahul posted above is
*Automatic*.
Might try what he has posted above again, using Automatic and not timed
and see what happens.
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin= <username>
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9:59 p.m.
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--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Mike Chambers <mike(a)miketc.net> wrote:
From: Mike Chambers <mike(a)miketc.net>
Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ... (autologin SOLVED)
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:34 PM
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 18:17 -0700,
Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Have you tried:
> >
> > /etc/gdm/custom.conf
> >
> > [daemon]
> > AutomaticLoginEnable=True
> > AutomaticLogin= <username>
> >
> > ---
>
> Must have been a typo, or the other line
> TimedLoginDelay=0, Now it is working like a
champ! :)
>
> [students@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
> # GDM configuration storage
>
> [daemon]
> TimedLoginEnable=true
> TimedLogin=students
Was neither, your using *timed* login and what Rahul posted
above is
*Automatic*.
Might try what he has posted above again, using Automatic
and not timed
and see what happens.
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin= <username>
--
Thank you very much Mike, I did not actually ***see*** the difference, I can change one to
AutomaticLoginEnable=True, and AutomaticLogin=students and see what happens.
I have used the TimedLoginEnable=True since Fedora 9, and got acustomed to it :(
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/fedora-9-auto-log...
is what I used, and I did not even notice the difference from
# sed -i 's/Timed/Automatic/g'
in /etc/gdm/custom.conf
I will see what difference this makes and report back tomorrow when I get to the machines
which have this.
Regards,
Antonio
7:13 a.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ... (autologin SOLVED)
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Mike Chambers <mike(a)miketc.net> wrote:
From: Mike Chambers <mike(a)miketc.net>
Subject: Re: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ... (autologin SOLVED)
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases"
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:34 PM
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 18:17 -0700,
Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Have you tried:
> >
> > /etc/gdm/custom.conf
> >
> > [daemon]
> > AutomaticLoginEnable=True
> > AutomaticLogin= <username>
> >
> > ---
>
> Must have been a typo, or the other line
> TimedLoginDelay=0, Now it is working like a
champ! :)
>
> [students@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
> # GDM configuration storage
>
> [daemon]
> TimedLoginEnable=true
> TimedLogin=students
Was neither, your using *timed* login and what Rahul posted
above is
*Automatic*.
Might try what he has posted above again, using Automatic
and not timed
and see what happens.
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin= <username>
--
I did have it correct on the machine that I first tried it. Here's the output of the
file:
[students@maddog ~]$ cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf
# GDM configuration storage
[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
AutomaticLogin=students
#TimedLoginDelay=0
[security]
[xdmcp]
[greeter]
[chooser]
[debug]
[students@maddog ~]$
It had TimedLoginDelay=0, and it was causing the problems. On the other two machines, I
did have the other version:
TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=students
Does it make sense now?
I had the delay=0 and it was causing the trouble :(
Thanks to all who have helped me get this working. My students are appreciative as they
do not have to type a password to get to use the computers.
Regards,
Antonio
[students@maddog ~]$ cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 15 (Lovelock)
[students@maddog ~]$ uname -r
2.6.38.2-8.fc15.x86_64
8:04 a.m.
New subject: How do I add startup programs in Gnome 3? (Solved), ...
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Antonio Olivares
<olivares14031(a)yahoo.com>wrote:
Now, I have one remaining issue. How do we get gdm to autologin? The
previous tricks to put in [daemon] section of /etc/gdm/custom.conf do not
work anymore. Any insights on that would be appreciated as well.
Regards,
Antonio
Have you tried 'My Account' in the right corner menu in gnome3 top panel ?
There is a AutoLogin switch on the user acccount (You have to press the
unlock button first)
Tim
2:43 p.m.
On 03/25/2011 08:13 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
Dear folks,
I took the plunge to Gnome 3 and although I am playing around, I wish to add some of the
old functionality like there was before, i.e, add a starting up script, in the old way one
would open gnome session and add the program/script to run at bootup, now the same cannot
be applied.
I want to add GKrellM system monitor. ATM I use a terminal and type
$ gkrellm&
or run it from the applications(System -> GKrellM), but I want to see if it can run
without me typing it in?
TIA,
Antonio
[students@E213-299 Downloads]$ uname -a
Linux E213-299 2.6.38.1-6.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 23 22:43:31 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64
x86_64 GNU/Linux
gnome-session-properties will do what you want......
$ sudo yum whatprovides */gnome-session-properties
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
gnome-session-2.91.91.3-1.fc15.x86_64 : GNOME session manager
Repo : fedora
Matched from:
Filename : /usr/bin/gnome-session-properties
gnome-session-2.91.93-1.fc15.x86_64 : GNOME session manager
Repo : updates-testing
Matched from:
Filename : /usr/bin/gnome-session-properties
gnome-session-2.91.93-1.fc15.x86_64 : GNOME session manager
Repo : installed
Matched from:
Filename : /usr/bin/gnome-session-properties
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3:09 p.m.
Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734 <at> cox.net> writes:
gnome-session-properties will do what you want......
Thanks! I didn't realize that this was still available in F15 and Rawhide (and
even still has the "Automatically remember running applications when logging
out" option), since it doesn't appear to be accessible from a menu anymore.
6:59 p.m.
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 20:09 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734 <at> cox.net> writes:
> gnome-session-properties will do what you want......
Thanks! I didn't realize that this was still available in F15 and Rawhide (and
even still has the "Automatically remember running applications when logging
out" option), since it doesn't appear to be accessible from a menu anymore.
Its .desktop file has:
NoDisplay=true
if you take that out it'd probably show up. I think this may be
something that was appropriate in GNOME 2 but isn't in GNOME 3 and
should be changed, I'll check with desktop team. thanks.
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8:22 p.m.
I have been following your informative threads with grat interest. However, I have not
foune .xinitrc nor .desktop file in my /home directory. I used nautilus with "show
hidded files" selected. A dump of the home directory with "tree -a" are
attached.
Regards
----- "Adam Williamson" <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 20:09 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Clyde E. Kunkel <clydekunkel7734 <at> cox.net> writes:
>
> > gnome-session-properties will do what you want......
>
> Thanks! I didn't realize that this was still available in F15 and
Rawhide (and
> even still has the "Automatically remember running applications when
logging
> out" option), since it doesn't appear to be accessible from a menu
anymore.
Its .desktop file has:
NoDisplay=true
if you take that out it'd probably show up. I think this may be
something that was appropriate in GNOME 2 but isn't in GNOME 3 and
should be changed, I'll check with desktop team. thanks.
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On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 21:22 -0400, ergodic wrote:
I have been following your informative threads with grat interest.
However, I have not foune .xinitrc nor .desktop file in my /home
directory. I used nautilus with "show hidded files" selected. A dump
of the home directory with "tree -a" are attached.
Neither would exist, you would create a .xinitrc file, or copy .desktop
files into ~/.config/autostart . But the easiest thing to do, as pointed
out later in the thread, is just run 'gnome-session-properties' .
Mclasen tells me it's hidden on purpose, btw, because it's considered
kinda deprecated / not something they want to make obvious any more.
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8:38 p.m.
Thanks
----- "Adam Williamson" <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 21:22 -0400, ergodic wrote:
> I have been following your informative threads with grat interest.
> However, I have not foune .xinitrc nor .desktop file in my /home
> directory. I used nautilus with "show hidded files" selected. A
dump
> of the home directory with "tree -a" are attached.
Neither would exist, you would create a .xinitrc file, or copy
.desktop
files into ~/.config/autostart . But the easiest thing to do, as
pointed
out later in the thread, is just run 'gnome-session-properties' .
Mclasen tells me it's hidden on purpose, btw, because it's considered
kinda deprecated / not something they want to make obvious any more.
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 09:22:10PM -0400, ergodic wrote:
I have been following your informative threads with grat interest.
However, I have not foune .xinitrc nor .desktop file in my /home directory. I used
nautilus with "show hidded files" selected. A dump of the home directory with
"tree -a" are attached.
Usually, .xinitrc is created by the user. For example, mine just reads
exec openbox-session
and does nothing but start openbox.
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