- Add bittorrent because it's the best way to grab RedHat Linux.
For some people, I'm sure the acceptable use policy for some people make it difficult to use bt legally, and for others firewalls make bt a technical challenge.
- http://rhl.redhat.com/ should follow w3c standards !
For a "quite" community project, it's a shame.
Now I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and accept the fact that your English might be poor. Saying its a 'shame' is seem a bit harsh. I'm sure you can file this issue as a bug against the website somewhere in bugzilla.
- As a community project, can you *please* add mailing-list (only
rhl-list, beta, devel and so don't seem necessary) to Deutcsh, French, Spanish, ... audience.
Hmm maybe a users group list for the major languages in the geek community..like esperanto and klingon. But I can't really see the point in providing 14 language specific development lists or 14 beta lists. Sure All the Spanish people might be able to talk together and decide what they want to do developmentwise...but unless the 'core' members are speaking Spanish, that line of communication seems pointless. For development lists...the important thing is that users and developers communicate, if the main developers aren't French, they are most likely not going to bother learning French, and the users on that mailinglist are just going to end up talking among themselves.
For the beta list...the important thing are the bugreports. We can prattle on all day long on this list...but in the final analysis, unless that's changed with the change from product to project, are shoving bugreports into bugzilla for the developers to fix. Are you going to suggest language specific bugzilla's as well? What are the chances that a bugreport in french will be read and dealt with by correct package developer? For something like multiple human languages support as part of the beta development to work, you'd really have to round up a bunch of betatester/translators who could take the Spanish and French bugreports and translate them into English for the developer deal with it.
So what it really comes down to on in terms of really supportin multiple languages on the website and as part of the development process is how much effort the non-English speakers want to put in translating the website into other languages and things like bugreports back into english. Everything in the post I'm responding to, feels like your asking for someone else to take care of these translation issue. If that's the case, then you don't get it. People in the userbase need to step up and provide the translations for the software and for the webpages.
Making the rhl website fall under the "Documents Project" makes some sense, and would provide this 'community' input on fixing the shameful lack standards compliance, as well as what more to include. Is there a need here for some sort of limited rights wiki?
-jef"I'm getting this list in digest mode, to self restrict the amount of posting I do"spaleta
Le mar 22/07/2003 à 14:20, Jef Spaleta a écrit :
- Add bittorrent because it's the best way to grab RedHat Linux.
For some people, I'm sure the acceptable use policy for some people make it difficult to use bt legally, and for others firewalls make bt a technical challenge.
- http://rhl.redhat.com/ should follow w3c standards !
For a "quite" community project, it's a shame.
Now I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and accept the fact that your English might be poor. Saying its a 'shame' is seem a bit harsh. I'm sure you can file this issue as a bug against the website somewhere in bugzilla.
I'll do this.
- As a community project, can you *please* add mailing-list (only
rhl-list, beta, devel and so don't seem necessary) to Deutcsh, French, Spanish, ... audience.
Hmm maybe a users group list for the major languages in the geek community..like esperanto and klingon. But I can't really see the point in providing 14 language specific development lists or 14 beta lists.
Ooops, my poor English. Only USER mailing list and true major languages.
Sorry.
Sure All the Spanish people might be able to talk together and decide what they want to do developmentwise...but unless the 'core' members are speaking Spanish, that line of communication seems pointless. For development lists...the important thing is that users and developers communicate, if the main developers aren't French, they are most likely not going to bother learning French, and the users on that mailinglist are just going to end up talking among themselves.
For the beta list...the important thing are the bugreports. We can prattle on all day long on this list...but in the final analysis, unless that's changed with the change from product to project, are shoving bugreports into bugzilla for the developers to fix. Are you going to suggest language specific bugzilla's as well? What are the chances that a bugreport in french will be read and dealt with by correct package developer? For something like multiple human languages support as part of the beta development to work, you'd really have to round up a bunch of betatester/translators who could take the Spanish and French bugreports and translate them into English for the developer deal with it.
So what it really comes down to on in terms of really supportin multiple languages on the website and as part of the development process is how much effort the non-English speakers want to put in translating the website into other languages and things like bugreports back into english. Everything in the post I'm responding to, feels like your asking for someone else to take care of these translation issue. If that's the case, then you don't get it. People in the userbase need to step up and provide the translations for the software and for the webpages.
Making the rhl website fall under the "Documents Project" makes some sense, and would provide this 'community' input on fixing the shameful lack standards compliance, as well as what more to include. Is there a need here for some sort of limited rights wiki?
-jef"I'm getting this list in digest mode, to self restrict the amount of posting I do"spaleta