Hi,
as discussed in "future of official optical media support in Fedora" thread in devel list [1], we agreed to decrease the importance and testing of optical media support for Fedora release composes, and block on just several specific images. This is a concrete proposal to adjust our release criteria to match the outcome of the discussion. The outcome is that we will not block on broken optical support for any Alpha/Beta composes, and we will block on optical support for Final composes only for Workstation Live and Everything netinst image (please note that I didn't receive much feedback for my last point where I suggested Everything netinst is made release blocking [2] - if you have something to add, there's still time).
== Don't block on Alpha/Beta adjustment ==
1. On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Release-bloc... the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
2. On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Beta_Release_Criteria#Release-block... the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
3. On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Final_Release_Criteria we add "Initialization requirements" header with "Release-blocking images must boot" sub-header (same as in Alpha/Beta) with text:
All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations. Supported media types [hide] Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods. Difference from Beta [hide] This criterion differs from the similar Beta criterion only in that it requires all supported images to work when written also to an optical media, not just USB sticks.
== Block only on Workstation Live and Everything netinst change ==
1. On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fed... we add another column to the all the tables called "optical boot is release blocking". The cells will have value "yes" for Workstation Live x86_64 and Everything netinst x86_64, value "no" for all other rows containing "release blocking = yes", and will be grayed out for rows containing "release blocking = no".
(We link to this page from Alpha/Beta/Final release criteria pages from the last sentence in the description in the top of the page.)
== Wiki adjustments ==
1. On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Installation_test_matrix#Default_boo... we change "Expected coverage" box from:
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across the table, with at least some testing for all three media types, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). For Final, we expect full coverage for all the Alpha / Final rows.
to
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across the table, with at least some testing for VM and USB boot method, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). Optical boot testing is optional at this stage. For Final, we expect full coverage for the Alpha / Final rows with VM and USB boot method. Optical boot testing in Final is mandatory for [[Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fedora26|supported images]].
Wording improvements or any other feedback welcome.
Thanks, Kamil
[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 08:41:57AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
Hi,
as discussed in "future of official optical media support in Fedora" thread in devel list [1], we agreed to decrease the importance and testing of optical media support for Fedora release composes, and block on just several specific images. This is a concrete proposal to adjust our release criteria to match the outcome of the discussion. The outcome is that we will not block on broken optical support for any Alpha/Beta composes, and we will block on optical support for Final composes only for Workstation Live and Everything netinst image (please note that I didn't receive much feedback for my last point where I suggested Everything netinst is made release blocking [2] - if you have something to add, there's still time).
== Don't block on Alpha/Beta adjustment ==
- On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Release-bloc... the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
- On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Beta_Release_Criteria#Release-block... the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
- On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Final_Release_Criteria we add "Initialization requirements" header with "Release-blocking images must boot" sub-header (same as in Alpha/Beta) with text:
All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations. Supported media types [hide] Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods. Difference from Beta [hide] This criterion differs from the similar Beta criterion only in that it requires all supported images to work when written also to an optical media, not just USB sticks.
== Block only on Workstation Live and Everything netinst change ==
- On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fed... we add another column to the all the tables called "optical boot is release blocking". The cells will have value "yes" for Workstation Live x86_64 and Everything netinst x86_64, value "no" for all other rows containing "release blocking = yes", and will be grayed out for rows containing "release blocking = no".
(We link to this page from Alpha/Beta/Final release criteria pages from the last sentence in the description in the top of the page.)
== Wiki adjustments ==
- On page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Installation_test_matrix#Default_boo... we change "Expected coverage" box from:
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across the table, with at least some testing for all three media types, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). For Final, we expect full coverage for all the Alpha / Final rows.
to
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across the table, with at least some testing for VM and USB boot method, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). Optical boot testing is optional at this stage. For Final, we expect full coverage for the Alpha / Final rows with VM and USB boot method. Optical boot testing in Final is mandatory for [[Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fedora26|supported images]].
Wording improvements or any other feedback welcome.
Thanks, Kamil
[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
+1 for those changes.
Thanks Kamil!
+1
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Mike Ruckman roshi@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 08:41:57AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
Hi,
as discussed in "future of official optical media support in Fedora"
thread in devel list [1], we agreed to decrease the importance and testing of optical media support for Fedora release composes, and block on just several specific images. This is a concrete proposal to adjust our release criteria to match the outcome of the discussion. The outcome is that we will not block on broken optical support for any Alpha/Beta composes, and we will block on optical support for Final composes only for Workstation Live and Everything netinst image (please note that I didn't receive much feedback for my last point where I suggested Everything netinst is made release blocking [2] - if you have something to add, there's still time).
== Don't block on Alpha/Beta adjustment ==
Criteria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when
written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when
written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
Criteria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when
written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when
written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
Criteria we add "Initialization requirements" header with "Release-blocking images must boot" sub-header (same as in Alpha/Beta) with text:
All release-blocking images must boot in their supported
configurations.
Supported media types [hide] Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when
written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
Difference from Beta [hide] This criterion differs from the similar Beta criterion only in that it
requires all supported images to work when written also to an optical media, not just USB sticks.
== Block only on Workstation Live and Everything netinst change ==
Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fedora26 we add another column to the all the tables called "optical boot is release blocking". The cells will have value "yes" for Workstation Live x86_64 and Everything netinst x86_64, value "no" for all other rows containing "release blocking = yes", and will be grayed out for rows containing "release blocking = no".
(We link to this page from Alpha/Beta/Final release criteria pages from
the last sentence in the description in the top of the page.)
== Wiki adjustments ==
test_matrix#Default_boot_and_install_.28x86_64.29 we change "Expected coverage" box from:
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across
the table, with at least some testing for all three media types, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). For Final, we expect full coverage for all the Alpha / Final rows.
to
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across
the table, with at least some testing for VM and USB boot method, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). Optical boot testing is optional at this stage. For Final, we expect full coverage for the Alpha / Final rows with VM and USB boot method. Optical boot testing in Final is mandatory for [[Fedora_Program_Management/ ReleaseBlocking/Fedora26|supported images]].
Wording improvements or any other feedback welcome.
Thanks, Kamil
[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.
fedoraproject.org/thread/KICRVUS3YHNTLHY47O5A2XL2C5YMCFIH/
[2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.
fedoraproject.org/message/VQQXMJ7QMTLNRFRI5VYIKGIU5IV2W6KB/
+1 for those changes.
Thanks Kamil!
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On Tue, 2017-01-17 at 08:41 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
Hi,
<snip>
+1, all looks fine to me. Thanks!
+1 looks great.
On Tue, 2017-01-17 at 08:41 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
Hi,
as discussed in "future of official optical media support in Fedora" thread in devel list [1], we agreed to decrease the importance and testing of optical media support for Fedora release composes, and block on just several specific images. This is a concrete proposal to adjust our release criteria to match the outcome of the discussion. The outcome is that we will not block on broken optical support for any Alpha/Beta composes, and we will block on optical support for Final composes only for Workstation Live and Everything netinst image (please note that I didn't receive much feedback for my last point where I suggested Everything netinst is made release blocking [2] - if you have something to add, there's still time).
== Don't block on Alpha/Beta adjustment ==
teria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods.
eria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot the first sentence under "Supported media types" section changes from:
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
to
Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods.
teria we add "Initialization requirements" header with "Release- blocking images must boot" sub-header (same as in Alpha/Beta) with text:
All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations. Supported media types [hide] Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods. Difference from Beta [hide] This criterion differs from the similar Beta criterion only in that it requires all supported images to work when written also to an optical media, not just USB sticks.
== Block only on Workstation Live and Everything netinst change ==
eleaseBlocking/Fedora26 we add another column to the all the tables called "optical boot is release blocking". The cells will have value "yes" for Workstation Live x86_64 and Everything netinst x86_64, value "no" for all other rows containing "release blocking = yes", and will be grayed out for rows containing "release blocking = no".
(We link to this page from Alpha/Beta/Final release criteria pages from the last sentence in the description in the top of the page.)
== Wiki adjustments ==
matrix#Default_boot_and_install_.28x86_64.29 we change "Expected coverage" box from:
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across the table, with at least some testing for all three media types, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). For Final, we expect full coverage for all the Alpha / Final rows.
to
For Alpha and Beta, we expect a reasonable sampling of tests across the table, with at least some testing for VM and USB boot method, both firmware types, and each major class of deliverable (netinst, live and DVD). Optical boot testing is optional at this stage. For Final, we expect full coverage for the Alpha / Final rows with VM and USB boot method. Optical boot testing in Final is mandatory for [[Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseBlocking/Fedora26|supported images]].
Wording improvements or any other feedback welcome.
Thanks, Kamil
[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedorap roject.org/thread/KICRVUS3YHNTLHY47O5A2XL2C5YMCFIH/ [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedorap roject.org/message/VQQXMJ7QMTLNRFRI5VYIKGIU5IV2W6KB/ _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
Hi,
as discussed in "future of official optical media support in Fedora" thread in devel list [1], we agreed to decrease the importance and testing of optical media support for Fedora release composes, and block on just several specific images. This is a concrete proposal to adjust our release criteria to match the outcome of the discussion. The outcome is that we will not block on broken optical support for any Alpha/Beta composes, and we will block on optical support for Final composes only for Workstation Live and Everything netinst image
The changes are now live.
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Adam Williamson -
Harold Dost -
Kamil Paral -
Mike Ruckman -
Petr Schindler