The Multimedia group is missing in 41

[Ian Laurie]

There appears to be no Multimedia group [yet] in Fedora 41, is this
intentional?

If so the wiki page:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/installing-plugins-for-playi...

will need updating.

I also note there is no mention of the need to install RPM Fusion for
multimedia... what's up with that?  My understanding is you still need
it to play everything right?

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[Neal Gompa]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:41 PM Ian Laurie via test
 wrote:
> There appears to be no Multimedia group [yet] in Fedora 41, is this
> intentional?
>
> If so the wiki page:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/installing-plugins-for-playi...
>
> will need updating.
>
> I also note there is no mention of the need to install RPM Fusion for
> multimedia... what's up with that?  My understanding is you still need
> it to play everything right?

The Multimedia group should still exist in 41:
https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f41.xml.in#_4031-4054

That said, I don't see it represented in "dnf group list --hidden", so
something is wrong.

Regardless, RPM Fusion is not required for most common online and
offline multimedia. The main notable exclusions are HEVC, AC-4, VVC,
and similarly encumbered codecs. None of those are in common use
(except with Blu-Rays, but that's a separate problem anyway).

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[Ian Laurie]

On 8/22/24 1:10 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> The Multimedia group should still exist in 41:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f41.xml.in#_4031-4054
>
> That said, I don't see it represented in "dnf group list --hidden", so
> something is wrong.

Thanks Neal, the group exists now but upgrading it wants to do some
scary looking removals and ultimately crashes out with an SQL error anyway.

Also, I thought a group upgrade just upgraded the group definitions,
this looked like it wanted to actually remove packages from the system.

"sudo dnf group upgrade multimedia" produces this:

Package                                 Arch       Version
                   Repository               Size
Changing reason:
  alsa-ucm                               noarch     1.2.12-2.fc41

Group -> Dependency

alsa-utils                             x86_64     1.2.12-2.fc41
    Group -> Dependency

gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free            x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
    Group -> Dependency

gstreamer1-plugins-good                x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
    Group -> Dependency

gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free           x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
    Group -> Dependency

pipewire-alsa                          x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
    Group -> Dependency

wireplumber                            x86_64     0.5.5-2.fc41
    Group -> Dependency

Removing:
  PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin            x86_64     1.2.8-7.fc41
  gstreamer1-plugin-openh264             x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
  libva-intel-media-driver               x86_64     24.2.5-1.fc41
  pipewire-gstreamer                     x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
  pipewire-utils                         x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
Removing unused dependencies:
  intel-gmmlib                           x86_64     22.5.0-1.fc41
Upgrading groups:
  Multimedia

Transaction Summary:
  Removing:          6 packages
  Changing reason:    7 packages

After this operation 10 MiB will be freed (install 0 B, remove 10 MiB).
Is this ok [y/N]: y

Running transaction
SQL statement evaluation failed: "
     INSERT INTO
         "comps_group_package" (
             "group_id",
             "name_id",
             "installed",
             "pkg_type"
         )
     VALUES
         (486, (SELECT "id" FROM "pkg_name" WHERE "name" =
'libavcodec-freeworld'), 1, 1)
": (19) - constraint failed

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[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 at 03:35, Ian Laurie via test
 wrote:
> On 8/22/24 1:10 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > The Multimedia group should still exist in 41:
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f41.xml.in#_4031-4054
> >
> > That said, I don't see it represented in "dnf group list --hidden", so
> > something is wrong.
>
> Thanks Neal, the group exists now but upgrading it wants to do some
> scary looking removals and ultimately crashes out with an SQL error anyway.
>
> Also, I thought a group upgrade just upgraded the group definitions,
> this looked like it wanted to actually remove packages from the system.

Maybe it's a change in how dnf5 deals with groups, I would probably
file a bug against dnf5.
> "sudo dnf group upgrade multimedia" produces this:
>
> Package                                 Arch       Version
>                    Repository               Size
> Changing reason:
>   alsa-ucm                               noarch     1.2.12-2.fc41
> Group -> Dependency
>
> alsa-utils                             x86_64     1.2.12-2.fc41
>     Group -> Dependency
>
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free            x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
>     Group -> Dependency
>
> gstreamer1-plugins-good                x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
>     Group -> Dependency
>
> gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free           x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
>     Group -> Dependency
>
> pipewire-alsa                          x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
>     Group -> Dependency
>
> wireplumber                            x86_64     0.5.5-2.fc41
>     Group -> Dependency
>
> Removing:
>   PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin            x86_64     1.2.8-7.fc41
>   gstreamer1-plugin-openh264             x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
>   libva-intel-media-driver               x86_64     24.2.5-1.fc41
>   pipewire-gstreamer                     x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
>   pipewire-utils                         x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
> Removing unused dependencies:
>   intel-gmmlib                           x86_64     22.5.0-1.fc41
> Upgrading groups:
>   Multimedia
>
> Transaction Summary:
>   Removing:          6 packages
>   Changing reason:    7 packages
>
> After this operation 10 MiB will be freed (install 0 B, remove 10 MiB).
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
>
> Running transaction
> SQL statement evaluation failed: "
>      INSERT INTO
>          "comps_group_package" (
>              "group_id",
>              "name_id",
>              "installed",
>              "pkg_type"
>          )
>      VALUES
>          (486, (SELECT "id" FROM "pkg_name" WHERE "name" =
> 'libavcodec-freeworld'), 1, 1)
> ": (19) - constraint failed
>
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[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2024-08-28 at 15:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 at 03:35, Ian Laurie via test
>  wrote:
> > On 8/22/24 1:10 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > The Multimedia group should still exist in 41:
> > > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f41.xml.in#_4031-4054
> > >
> > > That said, I don't see it represented in "dnf group list --hidden", so
> > > something is wrong.
> >
> > Thanks Neal, the group exists now but upgrading it wants to do some
> > scary looking removals and ultimately crashes out with an SQL error anyway.
> >
> > Also, I thought a group upgrade just upgraded the group definitions,
> > this looked like it wanted to actually remove packages from the system.
>
> Maybe it's a change in how dnf5 deals with groups, I would probably
> file a bug against dnf5.

I think I see two separate bugs here, actually. The database error is
definitely a bug and should be filed (we should actually try and
reproduce it as it looks pretty bad). I think in theory syncing the
group content is normal behavior - I'm pretty sure we did this for a
while - but it seems to be doing it wrong, here. I checked the F41
comps file and PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin , gstreamer1-plugin-
openh264, libva-intel-media-driver, pipewire-alsa and wireplumber are
all still listed in it, so I don't understand why dnf is trying to
remove them.
> > "sudo dnf group upgrade multimedia" produces this:
> >
> > Package                                 Arch       Version
> >                    Repository               Size
> > Changing reason:
> >   alsa-ucm                               noarch     1.2.12-2.fc41
> > Group -> Dependency
> >
> > alsa-utils                             x86_64     1.2.12-2.fc41
> >     Group -> Dependency
> >
> > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free            x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
> >     Group -> Dependency
> >
> > gstreamer1-plugins-good                x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
> >     Group -> Dependency
> >
> > gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free           x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
> >     Group -> Dependency
> >
> > pipewire-alsa                          x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
> >     Group -> Dependency
> >
> > wireplumber                            x86_64     0.5.5-2.fc41
> >     Group -> Dependency
> >
> > Removing:
> >   PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin            x86_64     1.2.8-7.fc41
> >   gstreamer1-plugin-openh264             x86_64     1.24.7-1.fc41
> >   libva-intel-media-driver               x86_64     24.2.5-1.fc41
> >   pipewire-gstreamer                     x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
> >   pipewire-utils                         x86_64     1.2.3-1.fc41
> > Removing unused dependencies:
> >   intel-gmmlib                           x86_64     22.5.0-1.fc41
> > Upgrading groups:
> >   Multimedia
> >
> > Transaction Summary:
> >   Removing:          6 packages
> >   Changing reason:    7 packages
> >
> > After this operation 10 MiB will be freed (install 0 B, remove 10 MiB).
> > Is this ok [y/N]: y
> >
> > Running transaction
> > SQL statement evaluation failed: "
> >      INSERT INTO
> >          "comps_group_package" (
> >              "group_id",
> >              "name_id",
> >              "installed",
> >              "pkg_type"
> >          )
> >      VALUES
> >          (486, (SELECT "id" FROM "pkg_name" WHERE "name" =
> > 'libavcodec-freeworld'), 1, 1)
> > ": (19) - constraint failed
> >
> > --
> > Ian Laurie
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