Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

[Atmn Patel]

Hello all,

My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a
very early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto
this year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream
school is MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in
Quantum Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they
still used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch
Linux. I stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I
actually want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last
10 months getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now
I think its time I start contributing.

As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my spare
time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe
that I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn
and dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).

Time Zone: EST
Interests: N/A

GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
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>  
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[Gavin Flower]

On 29/12/14 10:51, Atmn Patel wrote:
>  Hello all,
>
>  My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near 
>  Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at 
>  a very early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of 
>  Toronto this year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. 
>  My dream school is MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a 
>  doctorate in Quantum Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with 
>  Ubuntu (when they still used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, 
>  I changed to Arch Linux. I stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago 
>  when I decided that I actually want to start contributing, I changed 
>  to Fedora. I spent the last 10 months getting used to it, 
>  understanding it, and toying with it, and now I think its time I start 
>  contributing.
>
>  As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an 
>  introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my 
>  spare time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation 
>  Certified System Administrator. As for project experience, I have 
>  none. I believe that I am an excellent match for the project because I 
>  am willing to learn and dedicate time to the project (I have no 
>  experience whatsoever).
>
>  Time Zone: EST
>  Interests: N/A
>
>  GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
>  pub   2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>        Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70  937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
>  uid                  Atmn Patel (Fedora Project) 
>  <atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>  sub   2048R/ACCE24D7 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>
>  
I strongly suggest that you allow yourself to mature before going to 
university, too many very bright children either burn out or have 
difficulty adjusting socially, then bomb out!  My youngest son really 
wanted to get to university a year early when he was in year 10, but he 
is glad he did not now - so we did look at a lot of the issues.

Very important to develop social & personal interactions skills.  Not 
just in relating to people socially, but being able to work effectively 
in teams with various types of people, not just technical people.  
Ensure that you can have a LIFE outside of physics & computers!  You're 
probably too young to even think about getting married in the future, 
but you still need to learn how to cook & do housework, and look after 
yourself - important for flatting, let alone for being married...

Broaden your experience and learning rather than rush into university.  
Better to skip year 1 at university than a year of school.  I taught 
myself Special Relativity when I was at high school, but didn't really 
know how to cook when I left home, and I am now in my second marriage.

However, I would like to encourage you to get more into Linux, and also 
into advanced physics (no need to wait until university, have you seen 
http://www.infocobuild.com/education/audio-video-courses/physics/quantum-...

?). Physics is fascinating, I read up on M-Theory, but most of the Math 
is way, way beyond me - besides software development is meant to be were 
I earn money!

If you really want to be a top flight physicist, you need to have a good 
grasp of calculus, tensor algebra, and other aspects of Mathematics.  
You may want to look at http://sagemath.org as this is free software 
that runs on Linux that has similar features to Matlab & Mathematica.

I started with FORTRAN & COBOL, and I've taught C to experienced 
programmers, and my main language now is Java.  I consider myself lucky 
that we have Linux, all my computers run Fedora.  I think C & Java are 
good languages to know, but you may want to look into C++ and even 
FORTRAN (currently FORTRAN is the main language used in scientific super 
computing).


Cheers,
Gavin

[Atmn Patel]

Hello,

First off, I would like to thank Gavin for his advice for university, it is
similar to the ones my parents and my teachers gave me. As for the
suggestions to where I can proceed, (ie learning C++, FORTRAN, Matlab,
etc.). I look forward to learning and growing with the members of the
Fedora Community in all areas. Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any
information that may be relevant to me.

Thanks,
Atmn Patel

On 28 December 2014 at 18:13, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(a)archidevsys.co.nz&gt;
wrote:

>  On 29/12/14 10:51, Atmn Patel wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
> > Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a
> > very early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto
> > this year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream
> > school is MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in
> > Quantum Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they
> > still used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch
> > Linux. I stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I
> > actually want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last
> > 10 months getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now
> > I think its time I start contributing.
> >
> > As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
> > introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my spare
> > time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
> > System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe
> > that I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn
> > and dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).
> >
> > Time Zone: EST
> > Interests: N/A
> >
> > GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
> > pub   2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
> >       Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70  937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
> > uid                  Atmn Patel (Fedora Project) <
> > atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> > sub   2048R/ACCE24D7 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
> >
> >
> >  I strongly suggest that you allow yourself to mature before going to
>  university, too many very bright children either burn out or have
>  difficulty adjusting socially, then bomb out!  My youngest son really
>  wanted to get to university a year early when he was in year 10, but he is
>  glad he did not now - so we did look at a lot of the issues.
>
>  Very important to develop social & personal interactions skills.  Not just
>  in relating to people socially, but being able to work effectively in teams
>  with various types of people, not just technical people.  Ensure that you
>  can have a LIFE outside of physics & computers!  You're probably too young
>  to even think about getting married in the future, but you still need to
>  learn how to cook & do housework, and look after yourself - important for
>  flatting, let alone for being married...
>
>  Broaden your experience and learning rather than rush into university.
>  Better to skip year 1 at university than a year of school.  I taught myself
>  Special Relativity when I was at high school, but didn't really know how to
>  cook when I left home, and I am now in my second marriage.
>
>  However, I would like to encourage you to get more into Linux, and also
>  into advanced physics (no need to wait until university, have you seen
>  http://www.infocobuild.com/education/audio-video-courses/
>  physics/quantum-entanglements-p1.html ?). Physics is fascinating, I read
>  up on M-Theory, but most of the Math is way, way beyond me - besides
>  software development is meant to be were I earn money!
>
>  If you really want to be a top flight physicist, you need to have a good
>  grasp of calculus, tensor algebra, and other aspects of Mathematics.  You
>  may want to look at http://sagemath.org as this is free software that
>  runs on Linux that has similar features to Matlab & Mathematica.
>
>  I started with FORTRAN & COBOL, and I've taught C to experienced
>  programmers, and my main language now is Java.  I consider myself lucky
>  that we have Linux, all my computers run Fedora.  I think C & Java are good
>  languages to know, but you may want to look into C++ and even FORTRAN
>  (currently FORTRAN is the main language used in scientific super computing).
>
>
>  Cheers,
>  Gavin
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[Lili Nie]

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Atmn Patel" <atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  To: test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:51:15 AM
>  Subject: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel
>  
>  Hello all,
>  
>  My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
>  Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a very
>  early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto this
>  year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream school is
>  MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in Quantum
>  Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they still
>  used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch Linux. I
>  stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I actually
>  want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last 10 months
>  getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now I think
>  its time I start contributing.
>  
>  As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
>  introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my spare
>  time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
>  System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe that
>  I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn and
>  dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).
>  
>  Time Zone: EST
>  Interests: N/A
>  
>  GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
>  pub 2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>  Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70 937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
>  uid Atmn Patel (Fedora Project) < atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com >
>  sub 2048R/ACCE24D7 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>  
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 Glad to see you brilliant guy here in this list:)
 As you may know,there are lots of nice professional engineers and I'm sure you will
learn a lot during your contribution.
 Enjoy your time together with Fedora,and I have confidence it will be a life long.

[Atmn Patel]

I'm sure I will learn a lot during my contribution here.
I feel very much welcome in this community.

--
Atmn Patel

On 28 December 2014 at 22:41, Lili Nie <lnie(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Atmn Patel" <atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  > To: test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:51:15 AM
>  > Subject: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel
>  >
>  > Hello all,
>  >
>  > My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
>  > Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a
>  very
>  > early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto this
>  > year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream school
>  is
>  > MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in Quantum
>  > Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they still
>  > used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch Linux. I
>  > stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I actually
>  > want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last 10
>  months
>  > getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now I think
>  > its time I start contributing.
>  >
>  > As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
>  > introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my
>  spare
>  > time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
>  > System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe
>  that
>  > I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn and
>  > dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).
>  >
>  > Time Zone: EST
>  > Interests: N/A
>  >
>  > GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
>  > pub 2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>  > Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70 937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
>  > uid Atmn Patel (Fedora Project) < atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com >
>  > sub 2048R/ACCE24D7 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>  >
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>
>   Glad to see you brilliant guy here in this list:)
>   As you may know,there are lots of nice professional engineers and I'm
>  sure you will learn a lot during your contribution.
>   Enjoy your time together with Fedora,and I have confidence it will be a
>  life long.
>
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[Gavin Flower]

On 29/12/14 17:04, Atmn Patel wrote:
>  I'm sure I will learn a lot during my contribution here.
>  I feel very much welcome in this community.
>
>  --
>  Atmn Patel
>
>  On 28 December 2014 at 22:41, Lili Nie <lnie(a)redhat.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      > From: "Atmn Patel" <atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>      > To: test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>
>      > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:51:15 AM
>      > Subject: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel
>      >
>      > Hello all,
>      >
>      > My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small
>      town near
>      > Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm
>      looking at a very
>      > early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of
>      Toronto this
>      > year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream
>      school is
>      > MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in Quantum
>      > Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when
>      they still
>      > used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch
>      Linux. I
>      > stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I
>      actually
>      > want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the
>      last 10 months
>      > getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and
>      now I think
>      > its time I start contributing.
>      >
>      > As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
>      > introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java
>      in my spare
>      > time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation
>      Certified
>      > System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I
>      believe that
>      > I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to
>      learn and
>      > dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).
>      >
>      > Time Zone: EST
>      > Interests: N/A
>      >
>      > GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
>      > pub 2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
>      > Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70 937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
>      > uid Atmn Patel (Fedora Project) < atmnpatel.eiacps(a)gmail.com
>      <mailto:[e-mail]> >
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>
>       Glad to see you brilliant guy here in this list:)
>       As you may know,there are lots of nice professional engineers and
>      I'm sure you will learn a lot during your contribution.
>       Enjoy your time together with Fedora,and I have confidence it
>      will be a life long.
>
>      --
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>      test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:[e-mail]>
>      To unsubscribe:
>      https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
>
>
>
>  
Please do not Top Post!


Cheers,
Gavin

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 17:13 +1300, Gavin Flower wrote:
>  >      Glad to see you brilliant guy here in this list:)
>  >      As you may know,there are lots of nice professional engineers
>  and
>  >     I'm sure you will learn a lot during your contribution.
>  >      Enjoy your time together with Fedora,and I have confidence it
>  >     will be a life long.
>  >
>  >     --
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>  >
>  test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:[e-mail]>
>  >     To unsubscribe:
>  >     https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Please do not Top Post! 
Also, please trim excess quoting, especially list boilerplate.

poc

[Chris Murphy]

Well if we're going to argue about which practice is a bad idea, it's
quoting by default that's now mainly to blame for these problems. All
clients can top post. Most can thread related emails. Many mobile
clients can't bottom post or can't be configured to do it by default.
The list rules about bottom posting are antiquated by predating
mobile. Quoting and bottom posting combined originate from the
pleistocene of email and can be used to carbon date its proponents.
Without quoting, the top/bottom/trim argument doesn't even come up.

I mostly agree with mattmanser.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5233428

-- 
Chris Murphy

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

No it isn't. Yes, but so what? And of course the ones that want a quick
idea of where we are appreciate seeing the context. The mobile clients
copied a broken model introduced by Microsoft precisely because their
users didn't have archived mailing lists. And so on.

(If this isn't all clear, maybe it would have helped had I quoted the
parts I was referring to).

poc

PS The question of how and when to quote falls under the mailing list
Guidelines. Feel free to propose changes if you feel some of us are
being old-fashioned.

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi Atmn,

On Sun, 2014-12-28 at 16:51 -0500, Atmn Patel wrote:
>  As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
>  introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my
>  spare time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation
>  Certified System Administrator. As for project experience, I have
>  none. I believe that I am an excellent match for the project because I
>  am willing to learn and dedicate time to the project (I have no
>  experience whatsoever). 
I'm assuming you've mailed the test list because you've already read the
"Join Fedora"[1] page and would like to get your hands dirty with QA?
The simplest would be to get started with testing updates as detailed
here[2].
 

If you're looking for admin work, the fedora infrastructure team is
where you should head to[3]. If you're looking to work on coding tasks,
the infra team does develop applications mostly in Python that you can
help with[4]. Other than that, the coding that takes place in the
community is mostly patches that are sent upstream. We endeavour to make
all our contributions to upstream directly and do not carry local
patches unless absolutely necessary[5].

I hope you have a great time in the community. Please feel free to ask
us any questions. We also have a dedicated mailing list and channel for
newcomers here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

Lastly, happy new year everyone!

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates-testing
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
[4] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/
[5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects

-- 
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha