Noveau?

[Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX]

How do I get Noveau to run?  The discussion I can find suggests it
installs automagically.  I can't find any obvious indication of
which X server is running.

Except that it isn't the proprietary Nvidia server.  The
fan still roars.  Desktop effects can't be enabled.

Running a 9600gt pci/e on Intel Core Duo 8500.

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[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:12 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
>  How do I get Noveau to run?  The discussion I can find suggests it
>  installs automagically.  I can't find any obvious indication of
>  which X server is running.
>  
>  Except that it isn't the proprietary Nvidia server.  The
>  fan still roars.  Desktop effects can't be enabled.
>  
>  Running a 9600gt pci/e on Intel Core Duo 8500. 
If you're using the live CD from the Test Day page, F11 beta, or
Rawhide, and you don't have an xorg.conf that explictly loads nv, then
you're almost certainly using nouveau.

You can check for sure by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - it tells you
what driver's in use. If you can't quite grok it, pastebin it up
somewhere and I'll look at it for you.
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[Peter Robinson]

> > How do I get Noveau to run?  The discussion I can find suggests
> it
> > installs automagically.  I can't find any obvious indication of
> > which X server is running.
> >
> > Except that it isn't the proprietary Nvidia server.  The
> > fan still roars.  Desktop effects can't be enabled.
> >
> > Running a 9600gt pci/e on Intel Core Duo 8500.
>
>  If you're using the live CD from the Test Day page, F11 beta, or
>  Rawhide, and you don't have an xorg.conf that explictly loads nv, then
>  you're almost certainly using nouveau. 
Is it possible to enable it with the F-10 Noveau for those of us only
have a nv chip on our work laptops and aren't quite reaady to push
F11beta to them?

Peter

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 20:24 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>  >> How do I get Noveau to run?  The discussion I can find
> suggests it
>  >> installs automagically.  I can't find any obvious indication of
>  >> which X server is running.
>  >>
>  >> Except that it isn't the proprietary Nvidia server.  The
>  >> fan still roars.  Desktop effects can't be enabled.
>  >>
>  >> Running a 9600gt pci/e on Intel Core Duo 8500.
>  >
>  > If you're using the live CD from the Test Day page, F11 beta, or
>  > Rawhide, and you don't have an xorg.conf that explictly loads nv, then
>  > you're almost certainly using nouveau.
>  
>  Is it possible to enable it with the F-10 Noveau for those of us only
>  have a nv chip on our work laptops and aren't quite reaady to push
>  F11beta to them? 
Yes, but the nouveau in F10 is rather a long way behind what's in F11.
However, if you want to try it in F10, install the relevant package
(xorg-x11-drv-nouveau), create an xorg.conf, and change Driver "nv" to
Driver "nouveau".

You may also need to stick a line:

modprobe nouveau

in /etc/rc.local, I'm not 100% sure about that.

If your work laptop can boot from a live CD, just grab the test day live
CD (linked from the Wiki page) and give it a try with that.
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Adam Williamson
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[Peter Robinson]

Hi Adam,

> > > If you're using the live CD from the Test Day page, F11
> beta, or
> > > Rawhide, and you don't have an xorg.conf that explictly loads nv, then
> > > you're almost certainly using nouveau.
> >
> > Is it possible to enable it with the F-10 Noveau for those of us only
> > have a nv chip on our work laptops and aren't quite reaady to push
> > F11beta to them?
>
>  Yes, but the nouveau in F10 is rather a long way behind what's in F11.
>  However, if you want to try it in F10, install the relevant package
>  (xorg-x11-drv-nouveau), create an xorg.conf, and change Driver "nv" to
>  Driver "nouveau".
>
>  You may also need to stick a line:
>
>  modprobe nouveau
>
>  in /etc/rc.local, I'm not 100% sure about that.
>
>  If your work laptop can boot from a live CD, just grab the test day live
>  CD (linked from the Wiki page) and give it a try with that. 
Thanks for that. I'll try the F-11 beta live cd shortly. Just tried it
on a usb stick on my eeePC without much luck as it didn't get past the
syslinux prompt (the syslinux prompt was a grey shadow of what you
usually see) but then I've not tried recreating the stick using livecd
tools again. The livecd does boot fine in a KVM instance though....
:-)

Peter

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 20:51 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

>  Thanks for that. I'll try the F-11 beta live cd shortly. Just
> tried it
>  on a usb stick on my eeePC without much luck as it didn't get past the
>  syslinux prompt (the syslinux prompt was a grey shadow of what you
>  usually see) but then I've not tried recreating the stick using livecd
>  tools again. The livecd does boot fine in a KVM instance though....
>  :-) 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Radeon_2009-04-01#Live_Image

see the "Latest syslinux package?" boxout there.

I suspect this might need adding to the F11 Beta release notes, if it's
confirmed...
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Adam Williamson
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[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 20:51 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that. I'll try the F-11 beta live cd shortly. Just tried it
> > on a usb stick on my eeePC without much luck as it didn't get past the
> > syslinux prompt (the syslinux prompt was a grey shadow of what you
> > usually see) but then I've not tried recreating the stick using livecd
> > tools again. The livecd does boot fine in a KVM instance though....
> > :-)
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Radeon_2009-04-01#Live_Image
>
>  see the "Latest syslinux package?" boxout there.
>
>  I suspect this might need adding to the F11 Beta release notes, if it's
>  confirmed... 
I can confirm that fixed the problem on my eee. Its currently booting
a nice spinfinity startup screen. I remember livecd/sysconfig issues
with the olpc-rawhide images recently as well. Possible to push an
update to syslinux to F10?

Cheers,
Peter

Peter

[Gianluca Sforna]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
<caf(a)omen.com&gt; wrote:
>  Desktop effects can't be enabled. 
I think this is normal because 3D is currently disabled.

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