F29 Gnome Install process - A pain

[Ed Greshko]

This will probably be considered a "minor" pain.  And, since I don't use
GNOME except
in a VM for testing, I guess it is.

I'd just like to go on record to say I dislike a few things about the install
process.

1.  There is no option to set the hostname during install. 

2.  User creation is delayed until first boot and at the time of creation there is no
option to specify the UID and GID.  So, if you're like me, and use existing
NFS services and your primary user doesn't have 1000/1000 for them you have to either
know to create an initial throw away account  or manually make changes
later.

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[Matthew Miller]

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 09:39:55AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  2.  User creation is delayed until first boot and at the time of
> creation
>  there is no option to specify the UID and GID.  So, if you're like me, and
>  use existing NFS services and your primary user doesn't have 1000/1000 for
>  them you have to either know to create an initial throw away account  or
>  manually make changes later. 
I'd recommend using the netinstall in this case. Maybe even setting up a
kickstart you just update and reuse.


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[Stephen Gallagher]

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:41 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com&gt; wrote:
>  This will probably be considered a "minor" pain.  And, since I don't use
> GNOME except
>  in a VM for testing, I guess it is.
>
>  I'd just like to go on record to say I dislike a few things about the install
> process.
>
>  1.  There is no option to set the hostname during install.
>  
There is, but it's non-obvious. You have to set it in GNOME Settings
before running the installer. I've complained about this in the past
as well.

>  2.  User creation is delayed until first boot and at the time of
> creation there is no
>  option to specify the UID and GID.  So, if you're like me, and use existing
>  NFS services and your primary user doesn't have 1000/1000 for them you have to
> either
>  know to create an initial throw away account  or manually make changes
>  later. 
Or use FreeIPA/Active Directory to manage users and enroll as a client
instead. This is generally a better idea than manually copying IDs
around every time you deploy a new machine.

[Zachary Snyder]

A hostname field would be nice, I don't have issues setting one after the
fact though.

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:01 AM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh(a)redhat.com&gt;
wrote:

>  On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:41 PM Ed Greshko
> <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > This will probably be considered a "minor" pain.  And, since I don't
> use
>  GNOME except
>  > in a VM for testing, I guess it is.
>  >
>  > I'd just like to go on record to say I dislike a few things about the
>  install process.
>  >
>  > 1.  There is no option to set the hostname during install.
>  >
>
>  There is, but it's non-obvious. You have to set it in GNOME Settings
>  before running the installer. I've complained about this in the past
>  as well.
>
>  > 2.  User creation is delayed until first boot and at the time of
>  creation there is no
>  > option to specify the UID and GID.  So, if you're like me, and use
>  existing
>  > NFS services and your primary user doesn't have 1000/1000 for them you
>  have to either
>  > know to create an initial throw away account  or manually make changes
>  > later.
>
>  Or use FreeIPA/Active Directory to manage users and enroll as a client
>  instead. This is generally a better idea than manually copying IDs
>  around every time you deploy a new machine.
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[Ron Yorston]

Ed Greshko wrote:
> 2.  User creation is delayed until first boot... 
...and when the user is created and you click through the installer
you're logged in to the desktop as that user.

I want to perform some additional configuration before letting users
log in to the desktop.  The only way I've found to do this is to set
up a user in the installer and switch to a console before finishing
the process.

Ron