I just updated to the current severn-updates channel and was hoping that maybe nautilus would accept wildcards. Googling around a bit suggests to me that not many people care about that feature (or lack, thereof).
Am I the only one that wants to be able to type:
./*.rpm
and see all my rpm files, etc?
Not a complaint. Just curious. I mean, even my old DOS file manager could do this. Or perhaps this is supported and I just don't know how to do it?
-Steve
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 19:42, Steve Bergman wrote:
I just updated to the current severn-updates channel and was hoping that maybe nautilus would accept wildcards. Googling around a bit suggests to me that not many people care about that feature (or lack, thereof).
Am I the only one that wants to be able to type:
./*.rpm
and see all my rpm files, etc?
Not a complaint. Just curious. I mean, even my old DOS file manager could do this. Or perhaps this is supported and I just don't know how to do it?
It is not currently implemented no. Many people have wanted it, but a lot of people want a lot of things, and I haven't gotten any patches for it yet. It will get there eventually (although perhaps not exactly like you described it).
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Alexander Larsson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 19:42, Steve Bergman wrote:
Am I the only one that wants to be able to type:
./*.rpm
It is not currently implemented no. Many people have wanted it, but a lot of people want a lot of things, and I haven't gotten any patches for it yet. It will get there eventually (although perhaps not exactly like you described it).
Is anyone, especially upstream developers, working on it? Is the a plan for nautilus, expected features and rought ideas on when they will be worked on? Or is development of new features completly random and hap-hazard?
On the subject of patches, how many people understand the working of nautilus well enough to even attempt it? I dug into the smb:// code for gnome-vfs once, and it was very non-linear. What functions would need work to do get wildcards/filtering to work?
-Thomas
On the subject of patches, how many people understand the working of nautilus well enough to even attempt it? I dug into the smb:// code for gnome-vfs once, and it was very non-linear. What functions would need work to do get wildcards/filtering to work?
If you've touched gnome-vfs internals I'd think you know enough since you know how vfs enumeration of contents works and you are talking about a filter over that (or in it..)
Alan Cox wrote:
On the subject of patches, how many people understand the working of nautilus well enough to even attempt it? I dug into the smb:// code for gnome-vfs once, and it was very non-linear. What functions would need work to do get wildcards/filtering to work?
If you've touched gnome-vfs internals I'd think you know enough since you know how vfs enumeration of contents works and you are talking about a filter over that (or in it..)
If only. I was working on the smb authentication. All I did was get gnome-vfs to use the values passed or call the get_user_password() function if it didn't have one yet.
I don't know how gnome-vfs sets up the directory contents. I didn't even know nautilus used gnome-vfs (or is it vfs2, vfs-extras, or vfs2-extras?) to decide what to show :)
But, if it's in gnome-vfs(2) I'll have a go at it.
Alex, Havoc, is there a Red Hat bug for this? What about a GNOME bug? Do you know of anyone already "working" on this?
-Thomas
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 19:58, Thomas Dodd wrote:
Alexander Larsson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 19:42, Steve Bergman wrote:
Am I the only one that wants to be able to type:
./*.rpm
It is not currently implemented no. Many people have wanted it, but a lot of people want a lot of things, and I haven't gotten any patches for it yet. It will get there eventually (although perhaps not exactly like you described it).
Is anyone, especially upstream developers, working on it? Is the a plan for nautilus, expected features and rought ideas on when they will be worked on? Or is development of new features completly random and hap-hazard?
I am the upstream maintainer. As expected the time I have to spend on it depends on what else i have to do, and thus development of it is pretty random and hap-hazard.
On the subject of patches, how many people understand the working of nautilus well enough to even attempt it? I dug into the smb:// code for gnome-vfs once, and it was very non-linear. What functions would need work to do get wildcards/filtering to work?
Understanding nautilus is not that hard, its just that not many people work on it, so development takes time. Doing wildcard support in nautilus does not involve touching gnome-vfs.
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:58:38PM -0500, Thomas Dodd wrote:
Is anyone, especially upstream developers, working on it? Is the a plan for nautilus, expected features and rought ideas on when they will be worked on? Or is development of new features completly random and hap-hazard?
There is no answer to the question, "when will X be finished?" or "will feature X be implemented?" The answer to both questions is "when and if someone does the work." If the someone is you, then you know the answer. If the someone isn't you, then you'll just have to wait and see. :-)
Havoc
Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:58:38PM -0500, Thomas Dodd wrote:
Is anyone, especially upstream developers, working on it? Is the a plan for nautilus, expected features and rought ideas on when they will be worked on? Or is development of new features completly random and hap-hazard?
There is no answer to the question, "when will X be finished?" or "will feature X be implemented?" The answer to both questions is "when and if someone does the work." If the someone is you, then you know
So nobody is directing development of nautilus similar to to OpenOffice.org,Mozilla, or GIMP where there are planned features for later release which get priority attention for the developers. Sure, other features are developed too, but those projects usually have a set of features being worked on or planned.
So, to the best of your knowledge, no one is currently working on wildcard support? Know if anyone has attempted it in the recent past?
-Thomas
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 23:37, Thomas Dodd wrote:
Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:58:38PM -0500, Thomas Dodd wrote:
Is anyone, especially upstream developers, working on it? Is the a plan for nautilus, expected features and rought ideas on when they will be worked on? Or is development of new features completly random and hap-hazard?
There is no answer to the question, "when will X be finished?" or "will feature X be implemented?" The answer to both questions is "when and if someone does the work." If the someone is you, then you know
So nobody is directing development of nautilus similar to to OpenOffice.org,Mozilla, or GIMP where there are planned features for later release which get priority attention for the developers. Sure, other features are developed too, but those projects usually have a set of features being worked on or planned.
I'm the maintainer, and as such I direct the development. I have a list of important stuff that has to be worked on. We have certain prioritized features that we hope to work on for the next release.
However there just aren't that many developers (two basically), and I also maintain other gnome packages, and have many other responsibilities in Red Hat (such as fixing bugs in the betas). So, even if something is prio one for the nautilus developers there is no guarante when it will be worked on.
So, to the best of your knowledge, no one is currently working on wildcard support? Know if anyone has attempted it in the recent past?
Its on my todo list (along with many other things). Nobody else have expressed interest in working on it.
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