The fonts now are too obscure to see after updating today.

[肇 鑫]

Greeting everyone.
I update the XFree86 to 4.3.0-42 today. 
I notice that the fonts change a lot now. However, I think they are worse 
than before.

If you are somebody like me, who choose Chinese as default, you will find 
the characters become so obscure now. I believe that if this is still 
existed, fedora should not be released.
I use a notebook with 14.1 @ 1024*768. So I try to reset fonts using LCD 
mode in font setting. But it seems no changes happened.

So please chech-out want is wrong in that.
Thanks.

Best wishes.
huhu

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[Mike A. Harris]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, [gb2312] 肇 鑫 wrote:

> Greeting everyone.
> I update the XFree86 to 4.3.0-42 today.  
Updated from what previous XFree86 release?

> I notice that the fonts change a lot now. However, I think they
> are worse than before. 
Interesting... considering nothing has changed in XFree86 for 
quite a long time now that might affect fonts.

> If you are somebody like me, who choose Chinese as default, you
> will find the characters become so obscure now. I believe that
> if this is still existed, fedora should not be released. I use a
> notebook with 14.1 @ 1024*768. So I try to reset fonts using LCD
> mode in font setting. But it seems no changes happened.
>
> So please chech-out want is wrong in that. 
We'll need a lot more information than that to be able to
investigate anything.  Fonts should work no different now than
they did even a few months ago.  There are no new font related 
bugs reported in bugzilla that I can see.  If there was a 
widespread problem of ugly fonts all of a sudden, bugzilla would 
probably be quite flooded with bug reports about font problems.

I suspect this is just a local font installation issue.  If 
you've ever manually installed Asian fonts which supply their own 
fonts.scale and/or fonts.dir files and don't function properly 
with ttmkfdir/mkfontdir generated font metadata files, then this 
is a likely cause of the problem.

Can you provide screenshots?


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Mike A. Harris     ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat

[Yu Shao]

Because of licensing issue of zysong.ttf we had been shipping since
RedHat 7.3, we took it out from version ttfonts-zh_CN-2.13-0 in Fedora.

Regards,
Yu Shao

Mike A. Harris wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, [gb2312] 肇 鑫 wrote:
>
>   
>
> >Greeting everyone.
> >I update the XFree86 to 4.3.0-42 today. 
> >    
> >
>
> Updated from what previous XFree86 release?
>
>   
>
> >I notice that the fonts change a lot now. However, I think they
> >are worse than before.
> >    
> >
>
> Interesting... considering nothing has changed in XFree86 for 
> quite a long time now that might affect fonts.
>
>   
>
> >If you are somebody like me, who choose Chinese as default, you
> >will find the characters become so obscure now. I believe that
> >if this is still existed, fedora should not be released. I use a
> >notebook with 14.1 @ 1024*768. So I try to reset fonts using LCD
> >mode in font setting. But it seems no changes happened.
> >
> >So please chech-out want is wrong in that.
> >    
> >
>
> We'll need a lot more information than that to be able to
> investigate anything.  Fonts should work no different now than
> they did even a few months ago.  There are no new font related 
> bugs reported in bugzilla that I can see.  If there was a 
> widespread problem of ugly fonts all of a sudden, bugzilla would 
> probably be quite flooded with bug reports about font problems.
>
> I suspect this is just a local font installation issue.  If 
> you've ever manually installed Asian fonts which supply their own 
> fonts.scale and/or fonts.dir files and don't function properly 
> with ttmkfdir/mkfontdir generated font metadata files, then this 
> is a likely cause of the problem.
>
> Can you provide screenshots?
>
>
>   
>

[Mike A. Harris]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Yu Shao wrote:

> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:05:24 +1000
> From: Yu Shao <yshao(a)redhat.com&gt;
> To: Mike A. Harris <mharris(a)redhat.com&gt;
> Cc: fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312
> Subject: Re: The fonts now are too obscure to see after updating today.
>
> Because of licensing issue of zysong.ttf we had been shipping since
> RedHat 7.3, we took it out from version ttfonts-zh_CN-2.13-0 in Fedora. 
Ah, I wasn't aware of that, because it isn't part of XFree86.  
;o)

That however confirms for me that this observed change has
nothing to do with upgrading XFree86, since nothing in XFree86
related to font rasterization nor the included fonts themselves
had changed.

Most likely the usre had upgraded the particular font package 
that used to contain that font, and now it is gone, and an 
alternative font which isn't as nice is being used.

Thanks for the clarification Yu!

TTYL



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OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat