3:58 p.m.
There does not seem to be many options for creating boot disks in the
images directory of FC2-test3
I want to do a net install by booting off a floppy. Will these be
available in the final release. I find them quite valuable as I normally
just keep an image of the RPMS directory on a server.
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Joe MacDonald
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Focus Computer Consulting
250-861-3798
4:02 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 16:58, Joe MacDonald wrote:
There does not seem to be many options for creating boot disks in
the
images directory of FC2-test3
I want to do a net install by booting off a floppy. Will these be
available in the final release. I find them quite valuable as I normally
just keep an image of the RPMS directory on a server.
2.6 kernel is large, so boot floppies are not possible with it.
I do wish there was some kind of readme in the images directory
describing what the different images were for.
1:16 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 13:05, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 17:02 -0400, Will Backman wrote:
> I do wish there was some kind of readme in the images directory
> describing what the different images were for.
Like the one that's there named README?
Jeremy
Any reason why there's no description for the "rescuecd.iso" in that
README? boot.iso and diskboot.img are mentioned, what about
rescuecd.iso? I for one had an obvious idea that it was for a "rescue
cd" but wasn't completely sure 'till I loopback mounted it to inspect
its contents.. BTW, what's the difference between this ISO and "linux
rescue" at a boot: prompt? I.e. what is the purpose of providing this
ISO? Just another way to get the linux rescue environment without having
to download the entire CD1?
Regards,
-Matt
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mhelios - www.fedoraforum.org
1:41 a.m.
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:16:23 +1000, Matt Hansen
Just another way to get the linux rescue environment without having
to download the entire CD1?
there is more than one way? i thought rescuecd.iso was
pretty much the
only 'easy' way to get the same rescue environment as found on cd1.
A lot of people like doing a net install and dont want to pull down
the full isos.
rescuecd.iso gives those people the utility of the rescue environment
without pulling down all of cd1. boot.iso is even smaller and is
useful for people who know they don't need the rescue environment. The
inclusion of rescuecd.iso as a smallish image, i would wager is going
to save a few people butts once they get into trouble after doing a
net based install. But i would also wager, no matter how much effort
we put into trying to tell people about rescuecd, they will prefer to
take the very small boot.iso image for net installs...until they get
burned by a bad config and need the rescue environment.
-jef"humanity prefers to learn the hard way"spaleta
3:39 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 16:41, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:16:23 +1000, Matt Hansen
>Just another way to get the linux rescue environment without having
> to download the entire CD1?
there is more than one way? i thought rescuecd.iso was pretty much the
only 'easy' way to get the same rescue environment as found on cd1.
A lot of people like doing a net install and dont want to pull down
the full isos.
rescuecd.iso gives those people the utility of the rescue environment
without pulling down all of cd1. boot.iso is even smaller and is
useful for people who know they don't need the rescue environment.
Up to this point I was about to respond with "yerr right!". Those who
"think" they don't need a rescue environment are the very ones who
*will* dearly need one at some particular point in the future. "The boot
epoch!" <g>
The
inclusion of rescuecd.iso as a smallish image, i would wager is going
to save a few people butts once they get into trouble after doing a
net based install. But i would also wager, no matter how much effort
we put into trying to tell people about rescuecd, they will prefer to
take the very small boot.iso image for net installs...until they get
burned by a bad config and need the rescue environment.
And then you spoke this piece of wisdom. :-) +1 agreed.
-jef"humanity prefers to learn the hard way"spaleta
Heh. I have always liked your interesting interwined comment sign-offs.
And how true this particular one is...
Regards,
-Matt "can't think of anything as good as jeff's quotes"Hansen.
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5:52 a.m.
On Friday 30 April 2004 02:16, Matt Hansen wrote:
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On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 13:05, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 17:02 -0400, Will Backman wrote:
> > I do wish there was some kind of readme in the images directory
> > describing what the different images were for.
>
> Like the one that's there named README?
>
> Jeremy
Any reason why there's no description for the "rescuecd.iso" in that
README?
Mmmm ... What "rescuecd.iso" image?? I see nothing like this on the FC2-T3
discs or in the development tree ... not that it would not be a good idea.
--
Gene
6:14 a.m.
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:52:42 -0400, Gene C. <czar(a)czarc.net> wrote:
Mmmm ... What "rescuecd.iso" image?? I see nothing like
this on the FC2-T3
discs or in the development tree ... not that it would not be a good idea.
its not on the isos...but it should be in the images directory in the
os/ tree on the mirrors. Once you have cd1, cdrescue mode is sort of
redundant, so there is a space trade off to consider.
-jef
6:36 a.m.
On Friday 30 April 2004 07:14, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:52:42 -0400, Gene C. <czar(a)czarc.net>
wrote:
> Mmmm ... What "rescuecd.iso" image?? I see nothing like this on the
> FC2-T3 discs or in the development tree ... not that it would not be a
> good idea.
its not on the isos...but it should be in the images directory in the
os/ tree on the mirrors. Once you have cd1, cdrescue mode is sort of
redundant, so there is a space trade off to consider.
I looked at
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/...
and all I see is boot.iso and diskboot.img
Mmm ... that is interesting, the README is missing.
Assuming that the mirrors are true images of this, then ???
--
Gene
6:47 a.m.
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os...
its in the t3 tree.
-jef
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:36:53 -0400, Gene C. <czar(a)czarc.net> wrote:
I looked at
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/...
and all I see is boot.iso and diskboot.img
8 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 07:36, Gene C. wrote:
On Friday 30 April 2004 07:14, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:52:42 -0400, Gene C. <czar(a)czarc.net> wrote:
> > Mmmm ... What "rescuecd.iso" image?? I see nothing like this on the
> > FC2-T3 discs or in the development tree ... not that it would not be a
> > good idea.
>
> its not on the isos...but it should be in the images directory in the
> os/ tree on the mirrors. Once you have cd1, cdrescue mode is sort of
> redundant, so there is a space trade off to consider.
I looked at
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/...
and all I see is boot.iso and diskboot.img
Mmm ... that is interesting, the README is missing.
Assuming that the mirrors are true images of this, then ???
--
Gene
I didn't see any README at the mirror I used, nor any mention of the
smaller ISOs in the release notes. I just guessed.
8:02 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 21:36, Gene C. wrote:
On Friday 30 April 2004 07:14, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:52:42 -0400, Gene C. <czar(a)czarc.net> wrote:
> > Mmmm ... What "rescuecd.iso" image?? I see nothing like this on the
> > FC2-T3 discs or in the development tree ... not that it would not be a
> > good idea.
>
> its not on the isos...but it should be in the images directory in the
> os/ tree on the mirrors. Once you have cd1, cdrescue mode is sort of
> redundant, so there is a space trade off to consider.
I looked at
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/...
and all I see is boot.iso and diskboot.img
Mmm ... that is interesting, the README is missing.
Assuming that the mirrors are true images of this, then ???
--
Gene
The README is hidden from the HTTP view for some reason; it's viewable
if you manually type it in though:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os...
Regards,
-Matt
--
"Would you buy a car with the hood welded shut?"
- Bob Young on the benefits of the open source development model.
mhelios - www.fedoraforum.org
8:10 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 09:02, Matt Hansen wrote:
The README is hidden from the HTTP view for some reason; it's
viewable
if you manually type it in though:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/1.92/i386/os...
Regards,
-Matt
Thanks, although it looks like it does not actually describe all of the
different ISOs in that directory.
8:29 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 16:16 +1000, Matt Hansen wrote:
Any reason why there's no description for the
"rescuecd.iso" in that
README? boot.iso and diskboot.img are mentioned, what about
rescuecd.iso?
Because it's not present always. It's not put onto the actual CDs as
the space trade-off (you already have the data) isn't really worth it.
I'd actually rather get rescuecd.img into the iso directory, since it
makes more sense there in a lot of ways.
I for one had an obvious idea that it was for a "rescue
cd" but wasn't completely sure 'till I loopback mounted it to inspect
its contents.. BTW, what's the difference between this ISO and "linux
rescue" at a boot: prompt? I.e. what is the purpose of providing this
ISO? Just another way to get the linux rescue environment without having
to download the entire CD1?
Yep, basically. It can also be used for kicking off a network install
if you boot with 'linux' instead of just hitting enter. This is good
for graphical FTP/HTTP installs on machines with less RAM as you don't
have to pull the 70 meg second stage into RAM and can instead use the
copy on the CD.
Jeremy
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