How to test Plymouth on Fedora 10 with Intel graphic cards?

[Valent Turkovic]

Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
(915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
(not impressed).
Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?

Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
enable plymouth and to see how it should work?

Cheers,
Valent.



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["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
>  (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
>  Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
>  screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
>  (not impressed).
>  Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>
>  Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
>  enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>
>  Cheers,
>  Valent.
>
>
>
>     
So I qoute ajax in a recent interview with Fedoramagazine

"*
*Intel is more of a sob story. The bits were kind of there and working 
in F9, but then suffered a pretty major series of rewrites.
It looks like it’s coming together though, should be working in F11 if 
not in an F10 update."


JBG

http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-bette...
**

[Muayyad AlSadi]

I got same thing on qmeu-kvm

but if you think your card is supported and the graphical plugin is not used
try to set the default graphical theme (called plugin) with
plymouth-set-default-plugin

[Valent Turkovic]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Muayyad AlSadi <alsadi(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  I got same thing on qmeu-kvm
>
>  but if you think your card is supported and the graphical plugin is not used
>  try to set the default graphical theme (called plugin) with
>  plymouth-set-default-plugin
>
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# plymouth-set-default-plugin
spinfinity

I run this command on two laptops, one with 915GM and other with 945GM
video chip. I still get only the blue progress bar.

Valent.

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[Tom London]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Valent Turkovic
<valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Muayyad AlSadi
> <alsadi(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > I got same thing on qmeu-kvm
> >
> > but if you think your card is supported and the graphical plugin is not used
> > try to set the default graphical theme (called plugin) with
> > plymouth-set-default-plugin
> >
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>
>  # plymouth-set-default-plugin
>  spinfinity
>
>  I run this command on two laptops, one with 915GM and other with 945GM
>  video chip. I still get only the blue progress bar.
>
>  Valent.
>  
No guarantees, but have you tried setting 'vga=792' on the kernel boot line?

tom
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[Valent Turkovic]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Tom London <selinux(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  No guarantees, but have you tried setting 'vga=792' on the
> kernel boot line? 
I have read
http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-bette...
and they suggested to put vga=0x318 on the grub command line and that worked :)

On my laptop with intel 945GM I have a new fancy boot loader screen :)

Thank you Johann and Tom!

I still have no grub menu, only a black screen... is that a bug that I
should report or I should wait until intel driver gets better?

Cheers,
Valent.


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[Ray Strode]

Hi,
>  On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Tom London <selinux(a)gmail.com&gt;
> wrote:
>  > No guarantees, but have you tried setting 'vga=792' on the kernel boot
> line?
>
>  I have read
> http://fedoramagazine.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/interview-fedora-10s-bette...
>  and they suggested to put vga=0x318 on the grub command line and that worked :)
>
>  On my laptop with intel 945GM I have a new fancy boot loader screen :)
>
>  Thank you Johann and Tom!
>
>  I still have no grub menu, only a black screen... is that a bug that I
>  should report or I should wait until intel driver gets better?
>
>     
We hide the grub menu unless you hold down a key (like ctrl or alt) now 
(see the interview you referenced)
or if you are dual booting with a different OS.

--Ray

[Ray Strode]

Hi,
>  Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
>  (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
>  Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
>  screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
>  (not impressed).
>  Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>
>  Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
>  enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>     
Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.

It's actually hard to enable modesetting for testing purposes too, 
because we don't write the pciids the card supports into the driver (for 
mkinitrd to find it).

Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
users are stuck with a text splash.

To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).

--Ray

[Todd Denniston]

Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
>  Hi,
> > Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
> > (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
> > Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
> > screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
> > (not impressed).
> > Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
> >
> > Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
> > enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
> >   
>  Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.
>  
>  It's actually hard to enable modesetting for testing purposes too, 
>  because we don't write the pciids the card supports into the driver (for 
>  mkinitrd to find it).
>  
>  Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
>  users are stuck with a text splash.
>  
>  To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
>  
>  --Ray
>   
Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for 
grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if 
they wanted it to always show up?


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Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

[cornel panceac]

2008/10/28 Todd Denniston <Todd.Denniston(a)ssa.crane.navy.mil&gt;

>  Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
> >> (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
> >> Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
> >> screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
> >> (not impressed).
> >> Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
> >>
> >> Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
> >> enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
> >>
> >>
> > Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.
> >
> > It's actually hard to enable modesetting for testing purposes too, because
> > we don't write the pciids the card supports into the driver (for mkinitrd to
> > find it).
> >
> > Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel users
> > are stuck with a text splash.
> >
> > To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
> >
> > --Ray
> >
> >
>  Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for
>  grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if
>  they wanted it to always show up? 

comment out

hiddenmenu

line.

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>
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[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:38 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
>  Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
>  > Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
>  > users are stuck with a text splash.
>  > 
>  > To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
>
>  Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for 
>  grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if 
>  they wanted it to always show up? 
You mean like by changing timeout= in /boot/grub/grub.conf to a non-zero
value? :-)

Jeremy

[Todd Denniston]

Jeremy Katz wrote, On 10/28/2008 02:46 PM:
>  On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:38 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
> > Ray Strode wrote, On 10/24/2008 10:33 AM:
> >> Dave Airlie is going to fix that at some point, but right now intel 
> >> users are stuck with a text splash.
> >>
> >> To get to grub, hold down any key during boot up (say shift or ctrl).
> > Has anyone working on the changes considered a configuration item for 
> > grub|plymouth which would allow the admin to basically set 'HideGrub=NO' if 
> > they wanted it to always show up?
>  
>  You mean like by changing timeout= in /boot/grub/grub.conf to a non-zero
>  value? :-)
>  
>  Jeremy
>   
<sound of the palm of a hand impacting a forehead>
OK, That'll work.

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Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
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[Martin Sourada]

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 10:33 -0400, Ray Strode wrote:
>  Hi,
>  > Hi, I have several laptops all with different Intel graphic cards
>  > (915, 945 ...) and I would like to test plymouth if it is possible.
>  > Now when I boot rawhide (Fedora 10) I don't get grub but only a black
>  > screen and after that I see black screen with white-blue progress bar
>  > (not impressed).
>  > Do I need even newer intel drivers than ones in Rawhide?
>  >
>  > Is there a way to use latest intel drivers (if needed) or to somehow
>  > enable plymouth and to see how it should work?
>  >   
>  Unfortunately, the latest intel drivers don't do modesetting by default.
>   
Is there any way to enable it to test if it works or not, or would I
need to rebuild the drivers with it enabled? vga=0x318 seems to not give
correct resolution, vga=720 behaves same. No smooth transition to GDM...

Martin